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  2. Brian in Boston

    Trivia Question

    I'm going to go with Dick Howser.
  3. kimball

    NBA Changes 2018-19

    With what's been beaten to death in the Lakers thread already ... the alternate as an alternate isn't the worst jersey ever, but there's nothing about it that truly represents Magic.
  4. kimball

    Seattle NHL Brand Discussion

    As much as I'd love the Seattle Kraken, I actually really like the Seattle Sockeyes. It'd go with the red it seems the expansion group has already adopted as the primary color and it's not that bad of a name that's fairly unique to the area.
  5. selby56

    What is the rarest color in sports?

    WMU kinda sorta uses brown too. Their school colors are brown and gold. However they also wear a lot of black and Vegas gold. But they're also a mid-major.
  6. Brian in Boston

    Seattle NHL Brand Discussion

    To this point in time, comparing the Seattle Thunderbirds/NHL Seattle situation to that of the USL Seattle Sounders/MLS Seattle Sounders FC relationship is an "apples-and-oranges" comparison. Adrian Hanauer, owner of the USL Sounders, had been pursuing a Major League Soccer franchise for the City of Seattle for the better part of 3 to 4 years when MLS Commissioner Don Garber introduced him to Hollywood producer Joe Roth in the summer of 2007. Hanauer has been a part of the investor/operator group of Seattle's MLS franchise - along with partners Joe Roth, Paul Allen, and Drew Carey - since the team's operating rights were granted by the league in November of 2007. As a result, it was a simple and straightforward affair for an MLS franchise partially operated by Adrian Hanauer to secure the traditional Seattle Sounders name from a USL franchise owned and operated by Adrian Hanauer. By contrast, brothers Dan and Lindsey Leckelt - owners of the Western Hockey League's Kent, Washington-based Seattle Thunderbirds - have nothing to do with the NHL Seattle bid. As of this time, the Leckelts have given no indication that have any plans to suspend operations of their major junior ice hockey team, relocate said team, rebrand said team, or grant the ownership of the proposed NHL Seattle franchise permission to use the Seattle Thunderbirds brand.
  7. BrandMooreArt

    NFL 2018 changes

    i dont think the Raiders uniform is good (maybe the best) just because its been around a long time. my argument has always been the Jags uni is good because there is potential for it to never change again. the problem with their past uniforms and why they've changed so often is that there was never anything there that wasn't trendy and it dated quickly. building from the Raiders Minimal design principles, the Jags finally have a uniform that can become Raiders-like— it can stick around for 50 years without needing to change or looking tired. sure, they uni could use a gold stripe or two but, this is a team that has fairly dramatically changed their look every time they've done it; they're always "The New Jags". FFIW, i really like the black over teal look. good amount of their signature color without looking gaudy. looks like the new NFL trend is going to be colored pants. probably for the best, because Nike's white pants are too transparent.
  8. PaleVermilion81

    NFL 2018 changes

  9. LMU

    Loyola Marymount Visual Rebrand

    From what I gathered the isolated lion head (spirit logo) is probably going to be used in an athletic sense. Can't say I'm a fan of that with it being monochrome. They definitely need something other than generic block arched letters. (EDIT: I posted a usage graphic in the first post. The lion head is in fact a secondary athletic logo) My fellow alums are practically going pitchforks and torches over this. They hate the blue and are the most offended by the removal of the Latin school motto from the seal and the more subtle reference to the Jesuits despite the current one being way too busy and screaming 1960s. For reference, here's the disjointed current identity:
  10. FinsUp1214

    What is the rarest color in sports?

    Maybe a stretch, but that 2000’s slate Seahawks blue seemed pretty rare. The only sports team I can think of off the top of my head that wore anything similar were the Timberwolves, but even that seemed a a couple of shades brighter.
  11. Sabres7200

    What is the rarest color in sports?

    What about a yellow-green like the Brampton Battalion use? They're the only team I can think of that uses a color in that range full-time.
  12. Ferdinand Cesarano

    Trivia Question

    What World Series-winning manager lost the first 11 post-season games of his career?
  13. FinsUp1214

    NFL 2018 changes

    *Sigh* I must not have explained myself well enough because my point keeps getting missed. @Jack Holmes said what I was going for perfectly. I’ll just direct y’all to his post in its entirety.
  14. VandyDelphia Mike

    What is the rarest color in sports?

    Buccaneers pewter?
  15. -Akronite-

    What is the rarest color in sports?

    Orange as a primary is rare, unless paired with black (Flyers, Bengals, Orioles) but it is commonly paired and slapped onto blue/purple identities (Thunder, Knicks, Suns, Bears, Broncos (primary now?), Mets, Tigers, Astros). Purple is fairly rare, followed by green, but Brown is FAR more rare. In pro sports we have one current use of brown. In college there are three teams I can think of (Wyoming, BGSU, Tufts), and none are P5. Purple, in comparison: Lakers, Suns, Kings, Rockies, Vikings, Ravens, Clemson, TCU, Northwestern, Kansas State, Washington, and that's what I could think of.
  16. Remembering Logo Designer Keith Flynn of Flynnagain October 15, 2018 - 14:52 PM The sports logo community lost a true friend last week when Keith Flynn of Flynnagain Productions died this past Tuesday, October 9th. In addition to being an excellent logo designer, Flynn was a great friend both to the design community […] Read More...
  17. Why wouldn't the Browns take this opportunity to wear their orange jersey in the hot Florida sun?
  18. pepis21

    NBA Changes 2018-19

    New Lakers uniforms (except black stripe on purple uni)? Clippers unis (except alternate), few City unis, Grizzlies also looks good.
  19. It look like back of the collar is yellow not black like on LBJ photoshop picture.
  20. slikye1

    NFL to NBA (#20 Panthers updated on 10/13)

    Thank you! The collar color is based on their stripes, Home's color fixed now.
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  22. TenaciousG

    Seattle NHL Brand Discussion

    How were Thunderbirds not even included in the polling for the team name? I understand it is already “taken”, but so were Seattle Sounders by the USL team and we know how that turned out. I would also solve the color issue by using light blue and dark green.
  23. Would be nice to see the Browns wear Color Rush, even if it would put them at the max usage for the year. Has a team ever ignored the NFL's alternate jersey rules? Could they just wear CR the rest of the year and pay a fine, or would the league not even let them on the field? After getting destroyed by the Chargers, they have only won one game wearing the white jerseys since they debuted in 2015.
  24. Conrad.

    What is the rarest color in sports?

    seems like a discussion that @TruColor could heavily contribute to...
  25. I'd be shocked if any of these predictions are wrong: Ravens in black Eagles in black Bills in all white Sure hope I'm wrong, but I fully expect the Ravens in black. They love wearing it against teams that don't contrast with it at all and NFC teams in general. They did this last time they hosted the Saints:
  26. Mac the Knife

    North American Pro Soccer 2018

    You're making two fundamental, perhaps misguided, presumptions here though. The first is that MLS wanted to be in Austin, and the second that Garber knew what the hell he was doing with respect to Precourt in the first place. I don't think either is necessarily the case. Precourt has a little Eddie Lampert in him - get your foot in the door, gain enough trust to put yourself in a solid position with some leverage, then apply that leverage for what's your ultimate end game. With Sears, Lampert figured out as far back as 2005 that there was a way to bleed that company (and KMart along with it) bone dry, siphoning off its assets to other of his own entities while leaving the body that was responsible for all of it to slowly dry rot from within. For years he suckered everyone into believing he was trying to resurrect Sears when, in fact, he was deliberately burying it. Precourt bought his MLS membership and Columbus' operating rights intending to relocate them. He knew that once he got in the door, that status gave him sufficient leverage to force the LLC's hand in some fashion; the only question would be how. It's a leverage he'd not hold with any of the "big four" leagues because of their status as unincorporated associations vs. a limited liability company. In the former, the issue would be resolved (albeit messily) by simply terminating Precourt's membership in the association; the premise being that the club was an independent entity, and as such joined at will and was expelled by its internal termination process. But because MLS is a limited liability company, Precourt has a financial stake in the company, just in the same way Lampert does as a Sears shareholder. He has direct equity, which makes the matter of removing him from the equation considerably more difficult. He's going to Austin and he's going to get what he wanted, but in doing so he's got some very pissed off partners who feel this whole deal cost them upwards of $300 million in capital infusions. They might be businessmen at heart, but they're not going to forget this, either.
  27. Brian in Boston

    Seattle NHL Brand Discussion

    Last Monday afternoon, in an appearance on 710 ESPN Seattle's "Danny, Dave and Moore" show, NHL Seattle CEO Todd Leiweke told the hosts that if - as expected - the NHL's Board of Governors votes to award an expansion franchise to Seattle this coming December, than the team's name and logo would probably be unveiled in the spring of 2019. Leiweke added that when it comes to the team's identity, "... we're working on it right now. I'm working on it this week." Leiweke went on to say that one of the challenges when it comes to branding the team will be settling upon a color scheme. He noted that with the neighboring Vancouver Canucks already utilizing "the traditional Seattle team colors" of blue and green, NHL Seattle "might be forced to think outta the box here a little bit" when it comes to choosing a palette. Todd Leiweke on 710 ESPN Seattle's "Danny, Dave and Moore" show Elsewhere on the branding front, Seattle Sockeyes was the winner of the "Name the Team Tournament" that the Seattle Times conducted. Sockeyes bested Totems in the final round of balloting by a vote of 11,790 to 9,932. Of the 146,444 total votes that were cast in the multi-round balloting, the Sockeyes sobriquet garnered 37,543. The other top vote-getters in the exercise were Totems (30,140), Metropolitans (24,859), and Steelheads (18,700). Sockeyes or Totems? Announcing the winner of our (unofficial) tournament to name Seattle's NHL team
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