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  1. Among all the PC discussion here, I think this point here needs to be highlighted. The high school earns my highest respect for progressively naming itself after Frederick Douglass. But if you name yourself after him, is "Stallions" really the best moniker to underscore what he stood for? Frederick Douglass was an autodidact of outstanding intellect who gave a whole new meaning to the term "selfmade man" as he lived his most inspiring life which he dedicated to the fight for equal rights. He escaped from slavery, became a leading voice in the struggle of African Americans and he was a "feminist" fighting for women's rights as well. I'm certain the high school chose Stallions because Lexington prides itself to be the "Horse Capital of the World". So the equestrian theme does have it's merit and I reckon they chose Stallions because it embodies a powerful horse. Well, I have a solution at hand. Combining Frederick Douglass' spirit with a powerful equestrian theme, I would like to suggest: Unbroken Unbroken horses do not accept full submission yet as they are not used to saddle, bridle and the weight of a rider. Figuratively speaking Frederick Douglass was also "unbroken" as he did not accept the chains of slavery. In his autobiography he described it as follows: "I have observed this in my experience of slavery, that whenever my condition was improved, instead of its increasing my contentment, it only increased my desire to be free, and set me to thinking of plans to gain my freedom. I have found that, to make a contented slave, it is necessary to make a thoughtless one. It is necessary to darken his moral and mental vision, and, as far as possible, to annihilate the power of reason. He must be able to detect no inconsistencies in slavery; he must be made to feel that slavery is right; and he can be brought to that only when he ceased to be a man." But Frederick Douglass did not cease to be a man. In his words "The desire to be free, awakened my determination to act, to think, and to speak." Hence, being unbroken means to be able to form your own free will and confidently follow your dreams. A great quality if the students of the high school obtain it. And then there is also a nice quote attributed to Frederick Douglass that goes "It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men." It emphasizes that children need to be brought up with good moral values and virtues so they grow up to be good citizens. This is a great goal the high school can set set for itself. What do you guys think? Would you prefer the "Unbroken" over the "Stallions"?
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  2. My biggest issue with your argument is the way you keep stating your case before the quote of the post you're debating. Annoying.
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  3. I agree that we shouldn't be offended by everything, but we should also never lose the ability to call something out for being dumb. It's dumb to name a co-ed high school team the Stallions, given the gendered nature of the name, the sexual nature of the definition, and the slang use of the name. I think a gendered name isn't necessarily taboo, if there's some compelling reason why the team should have that name (most likely a local reference); there are multiple horse-related names without the problems I listed above.
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  4. Minnesota announces one of 13 uniform combinations to be worn in 2017
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  5. Not a huge fan of the Titans brand in general, but I do like the light blue jersey with the white pants look. I would make a few minor changes to that: Or with different shoulders:
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  6. I was convinced it was stolen until I realized the first two pictures were both the vodka company.
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  7. I vote we scrap the crap, go back to this, and call it a day. It won't sell more jerseys, but it'll look better. I'll take that every time.
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  9. Is it time to change the name of this thread to "Las Vegas NHL Explosion" yet?
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  10. I've never heard Washington's uniforms described as "McDonald's colors". Neither on this board nor in real life.
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  12. This logo gets worse every time I see it.
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  13. Hey guys, Wanted to take a shot at a new project...this is my first attempt working with Illustrator rather than Inkscape. I'm using my own template (which has been slightly streamlined). I envisioned a new look for the Falcons, whose current uniform has been stale for about a decade. This new set would coincide with the new stadium and is more of a throwback look. The overall look harkens back to the beautiful throwbacks from 1966 with the addition of sleeve stripes. I felt conflicted because I love the Northwestern style stripes they've worn before...I also love the gray pants with the red, white, and black stripe (same as the Super Bowl 1998 team's pants)...but mixing those with the helmet and you have a complete hodgepodge of striping patterns. So I've started from the helmet and the throwback pants stripe and expanding into a simple and consistent stripe across all elements. I have designed a custom number font. It's somewhat based off of the wordmark font and tweaked but I think it's still rather simple. I have also included an "Inaugural Season" patch on the black jersey, which I'd imagine they would wear for the very first game at the new stadium. Here's the rest of the number set:
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  14. Kansas City vs Detroit would be a thing of beauty.
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  15. BINGO!!! Last year's NASL Fall Season kicked-off on July 2nd. The same start date this year would give the owners of proposed NASL expansion teams in Atlanta, Orange County and San Diego just 177 days in which to finalize franchise purchase agreements; identify, negotiate leases for, and secure both office space and stadia; identify, interview, and hire staff, including front-office personnel, coaches, and sales/marketing teams; secure sponsorships, advertising, and ticket deposits; identify, negotiate contracts with, and sign players. The list goes on and on. Yet, somehow, we're to believe that the powers-that-be at NASL headquarters have properly vetted the ownership candidates for these franchises? Frankly, the very fact that the prospective owners of the three franchises in question are willing to entertain engaging in the rushed run-up necessary to launch their teams in time to participate in the NASL's Fall 2017 season raises serious doubts about their judgement and, by extension, their suitability to own and operate a team in the notoriously mercurial world of lower-level pro soccer in North America. Label me cynical, but this sort of frenzied, last-gasp sprint to add franchises on a truncated schedule bears all of the earmarks of past NASL missteps. It strikes me that the USSF has done nothing more than grant the NASL's leadership time to rearrange deck chairs on the RMS Titanic.
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  16. The whole process/identity has been/is a little strange. The "official" reason for going with 'Vegas' was that it had a stronger global brand. Really? I don't know about that...I think that 'Las Vegas' is just as strong as 'Vegas'. It seems that those who may prefer 'Vegas' would still be O.K. with 'Las Vegas'...but not so much the other way. From what I've read and heard, a lot of Las Vegans are a little miffed that the full name of their city is not being rep'd. I guess they'll get over it (maybe)- but why even go there? It just seemed unnecessary. Also, a little strange, is that an identity that is so obviously "Army" in its look, colours and name...doesn't have any endorsement at all from the Army. West Point, when asked, refused the use of the "Black Knights" name, and, last we heard, the Army Golden Knights parachute team (who weren't notified for some reason) is looking into the process.
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  17. 5) Winning an Olympic gold medal for playing as much Olympic hockey as you or I have.
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  18. Agreed on this. The red helmet just does not compliment the Titans style, but other than that, excellent job!
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  19. I agree paying further homage to Frederick Douglass would do the most to honor his lagacy and squash the controversy. The name unbroken isn't the most phonetically pleasing, but what it represents is exemplary.
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  20. Honestly, with the Cowboys, I just wanted to mock up something with Dak Prescott again. My motto for them was "compromise brings consistency." Dallas notoriously uses two different shades of silver and two different shades of navy/blue. For this concept, I took a mix of the colors and created a set that is consistent throughout. The home and away set are exact opposites, as are the two alternate/color rush uniforms, both of which work better with a white helmet.
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  21. I think this thread has shown one of my problems with almost all of the Titans redesigns on these boards, namely that people try to turn them into the Oilers. The consistent stripe pattern, prominence of red, and downplaying of navy (which are all present in concepts that we praise more than ones that either tweak the Titans slightly or take them in a new direction) are all symbols of our desire to recreate the departed Houston team. Think of it like the scene in the post-malaise Simpsons episode "I'm Going to Praiseland" where Ned Flanders cuts his new girlfriend's hair to resemble Maude's hairstyle (which in itself was a reference to Vertigo). We want to recreate a defunct identity by updating it for a modern team, even as said team tries to look away from this distant past. What I hope the Titans do is some simple clean-up on their current uniforms. Even out the patterns of the yokes and pants stripes, so they're consistent, emphasize the Columbia Blue/Navy Blue in the color scheme (with red still a secondary accent color), and give the logos a little tweak. Their tweaks shouldn't be drastic, and they shouldn't try to play Oilers dress-up.
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  22. Thank goodness Texans in their standard blue over white unis. Raiders in standard road unis.
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  24. Oh give me a break, the average casual fan isn't some 19 year old who spams "LIT" anytime a new uniform is released, they're 30-40 somethings who only follow their favorite team and don't care about anyone else. And even then, I can tell you first hand from having roommates and friends who fit that maligned age group on this site that the hardcore fans of those ages hate the ridiculous uniforms. You're not better for having "better taste" in uniforms, stop pretending that loving penn state's uniforms makes you special, you're actually pretty average as a whole.
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  25. "Look, if you want to save our marriage, you will cram this geoduck up your pooper for the both of us."
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  26. Whoa! That sure is a perfect one for this thread!
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  27. Rest in peace, zombie AFL. I knew thee in your past life, and I loved thee. Now, though, tis just a matter of time til Negan comes for thee. 🕙 (I know they're gonna attempt a 2017 season...but the way things are now, the indoor leagues would be better off with a Champions League-like arrangement if any of them wanted to bother with any semblance of a national league)
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  28. Crazy prediction that has a microscopically small chance of happening: Marquette King, Player of the Game. He'll pin Houston deep several times, and Osweiler's gonna Osweiler things up to the tune of 3-4 INTs before whoever the hell they have as the third stringer comes in.
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  29. I was thinking if the chargers had a bearverine, it'd be a decent logo with a few changes XD Basketball court mockup btw
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  31. Lame Duck Years are bad for everyone involved. Just look at the Oilers last year in Houston. The NFL would let the Raiders play at a small stadium for a few years because lame duck leads to poor attendance which leads to losing money.
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  32. If you can't get it to look right, maybe it's because Michigan sucks! Glad to help.
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  35. OK dumped the C... that was less fun than I wanted! Might make it smaller a touch...
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  36. A male mascot representing an entire student body belittles the female students/coaches because it's putting the entire spotlight on the males. I mentioned jokingly "we also let the girls play" because that's essentially what would be needed in fine print below the logo. If we were talking about the name of a male sports team, Stallions might be ok....but it's supposed to represent everyone. That's why "Mustangs" works and "Stallions" doesn't. A Mustang is essentially a wild horse and honestly more associated with a cool car than anything. A Stallion is an uncastrated adult male horse and the term has been used to describe human males. Urban Dictionary's top definition of a stallion: "A male who is able to conduct sexual intercourse for hours on end. Not necessarily hung like a horse, but he knows how to give a girl the ride of her life. He laughs at Viagra commercials, especially the part about a 4 hour erection being a bad thing." So yeah, I do think Penises and Stallions are representing the same thing because that's the general stigma surrounding the terms as defined by society. It's not harmful because it's male, it's harmful because of the precedence it sets. It makes women the 2nd class citizens of the school.
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  37. What would it look like if you made the gold highlight grey to make it more uniform? Excellent progression though. I always love it when a highschool gets an original logo
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  38. The School really likes it, I have played with it a bit and it needs something in that space... That said... I have been cleaning up lines and the shadow needed to be more there on brow, so I reworked that, and cleaned up the bad angle from the middle on the brow update. So here is the latest. I also did a skew for the helmet logo... here it is WITH the first one seen beneath it. For the helmet, I have been having to skew it a bit to fit on the modern helmet with more attachments taking up the side.
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  39. Anyways Happy Friday everyone! I have two concepts for today. Montreal and Nashville. Its hard to mess with my favorite teams jersey, and I wont play too much with their perfect home set. Their current away jerseys leave much to be desired. My updated away jersey is based around the one that the Canadiens wore from 1936-1938. It follows the typical Montreal design choice of having a non matching set, but I think it looks a bit cleaner. Let me know what you think! The second set is from Nashville. Im not too sure how I ended up liking this set. Its a simple design and without the flair their current set has. Yellow remains the primary color, dropped the yellow helmets, and darkened the shade of blue to that used by @builtbymachines used in his Nashville logo.
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  40. I second that notion Also, I really admire what you've done (especially the Vince Carter one) and the style you're doing your posters in is very striking while beautiful. Absolutely fantastic work!
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  41. That would make a great slogan if the MLS expansion bid fails and they try to buy NYCFC instead.
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  42. That game and that Vikings game would be a nightmare to officiate. Long time ago I was running the clock for this basketball tournament where all of the teams were assigned when you got there and you were given a colored t-shirt to distinguish which team you were on. The colors were different enough for the most part except for navel blue and black. To make matters worse one of the volunteer officials working the games with me was color blind. For calls such as possession after a ball went out of bounds he'd have to look to the other official every time.
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  43. Most of these announcers will not criticize ANYONE. It doesn't surprise me that Musberger defended Mixon. I'm just surprised that he pretty much doubled down.
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  44. The only way I'd be able to stomach the Cowboys in the Super Bowl is if they wore their vastly superior navy jerseys.
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  45. Jericho knows dozens of variations on the arm bar, and I can assure you several of them are near-lethal.
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  46. Sometimes too much sense is better than what the Browns ended up with. Anyways, I came up with a few more combos that I think make the most sense and look the best: C&C welcome.
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  48. The first I heard of this, it was presented as people being "offended by" the bold. And my response was an eye-roll (as I dim-wittedly forgot that a stallion was specifically a male). But this post nails it in my opinion...we don't need to go back and change the name of hundreds of established schools in the country but a brand new school? There's no reason for them not to consider the fact that both boys and girls are going to be playing sports and not to pick a name that represents both. Of course, this could be an interesting discussion but nuance and rational discussion are replaced by dismissive cries of "PC!" and "feminazis!" Hell maybe that's why the name made it to the top; after it was conceived of someone said "uh, it does not really represent half of our student body" and that poor SOB was mobbed with accusations of being "PC" or maybe even a "libtard." Rather than considering the potential merit of this discussion it caused everyone to dig their heels in on it because there's nothing worse than caving to political correctness. In fact, maybe the state will even pass a law that all new mascots have to be male-centric. It can be called the "PC Destruction" law. Geez. This is not about political correctness. There are times when political correctness exists, is annoying, and even problematic. Those times are heavily outweighed by the times it's used as a crutch in place of critical thought and dialog. This instance falls into the latter.
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  49. This is still the best uni in Saints history:
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