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    Disagree completely. The silver always seemed like an inappropriate accent color to use in the pinwheel, and I think most Blazers fans would agree that switching back to a primarily red/black/white color scheme is more fitting. I'm fine with them keeping gray(s) as secondary colors to be used sparingly for merchandising and promotional materials, and possibly even the alternate uniforms, but the main scheme should absolutely be red/black/white.
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    If the Raptors started wearing a jersey that said "The North" that would be worse even than Charlotte's black sleeved Buzz City uniforms and those were just a smidge worse than Rip City. that, folks, is why we can't allow nicknames on jerseys. Some teams can't be trusted to not wear stupid :censored: like this.
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    With the Blazers releasing their new logos yesterday, I figured I'd whip up some uniform concepts for what I think we might end up seeing. I have the primary home and road uniforms finished, so I'll start by showing you guys those. They're pretty similar to the current uniforms, but with some small tweaks. Both uniforms now feature v-neck collars, and the collar and armhole trim is now solid red on both jerseys. The wordmarks and numbers feature the updated typeface, and they're one color instead of being outlined. The signature uniform stripes now have space in between them to be more consistent with the lines of the pinwheel logo. Both uniforms feature a red tag on the waistband of the shorts with the ripcity logo inside. Lastly, I used OHSU for the ad on the jerseys, but they've yet to formally announce one. It's just what I'd like to see. I'm currently working on the alternate uniforms, so hopefully I'll have those posted in the coming days.
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    I'd never heard of Rip City until they started wearing those jerseys. Is that my fault? Maybe it is, or maybe it's not a famous enough moniker to be used on an official team uniform. When you think about it the first thing a uniform is supposed to do is identify who is wearing it and in that moment I had no idea what team was from Rip City. I know who the Motor City is and even then I still think it's a dumb thing for the Detroit Pistons to wear on a jersey. If you want to call yourself Rip City or whatever go ahead, but I think putting it on a jersey is silly.
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    My take on rip city is this; it's the flippin' National Basketball Association - the highest level of basketball on the entire planet - and quirky nicknames (as well as three-letter scoreboard/airport abbreviations) don't belong at such a professional level on a jersey. They belong in team lore, on T-shirts, other clothing, programs, miscellaneous "swag", and desperate Single-A baseball team uniforms. Call me a stickler, but the NBA should be above putting them on jerseys. "Portland" and "Blazers" suits just fine. Besides, the story behind "rip city" is pretty dumb anyways. An announcer said it during a loss? So the Jazz could put "SWAT LAKE CITY" on a jersey because I'm pretty sure Bolerjack coined it after a Gobert and Favors block clinic during what I'm pretty sure was still a loss? Mmkay.
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    Did you read the part where I said I thought it was stupid that Detroit wears Motor City on an alternate? That is most decidedly a more famous moniker and I don't think they should wear it on a jersey either. I don't think any nickname well-known or not is fit for a jersey. The Pelicans NOLA jerseys - bad. Hawks ATL jerseys - bad. Tampa Bay Lightning Bolts alternates - bad. If the Cleveland Indians ever tried to wear a jersey that said "Tribe" that would be bad. Now, I also don't get the Rip City nickname and it wasn't until a few years ago that I ever heard or saw it used, which admittedly could be my fault, but I lived in Seattle, I've paid attention to the NBA most of the time, I know who Terry Porter and Kevin Duckworth are, I've visited Portland, I knew some Blazers fans, but I had never heard about it until very recently which only compounds the badness of wearing it on an official team uniform. I say all of this as a person who if someone put a gun to my head and made me cheer for an NBA team the very short list would include the Blazers. Rational. Allow me to be perfectly candid - "Rip City" is one of the dumber nicknames I've ever heard, the origin story confirmed that, and remember that between me and you I'm the one who's impartial here. I wouldn't want my team to wear that on a jersey. Great for you guys. Wear it on a tshirt. Every sports city's got nicknames so you're not special in that regard. The actual team's uniforms should say Portland or Blazers. City and/or team nicknames don't belong on official team uniforms. Dumb ones really don't belong on team uniforms.
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    its one of my favorite sports logos because the idea/concept of it is so unique. the movement and relationship to the sport condensed into a single mark that actually makes sense. where most would have taken a basketball (or any other piece of sporting equipment if it were another sport) and slapped a letter inside of it, or set it on fire, this logo goes around all of that to complete what is a truly unique and clever mark. the only thing i ever questioned about it was the execution, and they've addressed that somewhat. i feel like they've fixed some things and broken other parts of it. the closed containing shape is better, i really like the mono-weight lines, the red being on top is fine because it's the primary color. what i don't like is the the lines close at the center now. it was done to divide the two "teams" in the mark, but it also weakened a sense of rotation and it doesn't quite look whole now— more like two different shapes sitting next to each other. im hoping the new uniforms will make use of what seems obvious, to pull those lines from the logo and incorporate them into striping or a pattern. otherwise, i think they missed a big opportunity with the wordmark, which is as plain as it gets and doesn't pair so well with the icon. still, even if the uniforms don't do that, there's the opportunity for a custom typeface to be used in marketing pieces. i'm just trying to a way/reason to use those lines elsewhere; that's a really key feature in this identity
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    Well, since this topic has been revived, I've decided to go ahead and re-post photos of my Pocket Pro collection since I completed it last fall. As I mentioned in my original post (and yes, I'm repeating myself), I now have a representation of every helmet worn in the NFL since 1960, including one-off preseason models and alternates. Many or even most had to be custom made. Up until last year, there had been three styles of Pocket Pros produced: two-bar, traditional, and Revolution. I tried to create each one in the style that is appropriate for the era or eras in which it was worn, somewhat arbitrarily using the two-bar model for 1960-79, the traditional model for 1980-2002, and the Revolution style for 2003 to present. The display unit is something I made using craft boards purchased at Lowes. Last year Riddell introduced the "Speed" model of Pocket Pro, replacing the Revolution that had been marketed for several years. I managed to complete the 2016 updates using Revolution shells, but I haven't decided if or when I'll start using the Speed model. Another decision will be whether or not to buy all 32 teams' current designs in the Speed model. Here's a comparison of the Revolution and the Speed, for those unfamiliar: I'd like to have been able to display them in order by city name, but that wasn't 100% possible if I were to keep each team all on one shelf and not split them up. When I get time, I'll to try to shift the Chargers upward, since they're now from Los Angeles rather than San Diego. The most challenging ones to create ended up being the 1994 Eagles 75th Anniversary throwback and the yellow and baby blue 2007 Eagles throwback. Also, I re-did the Buccaneers flags to make them the correct size. The ones produced by Riddell had flags that were too small. My only regret at this point is my failure to document the actual seasons each helmet was worn, as I was doing my research. I can still go back to the Gridiron Database and do it, but I could have had it done the first time.
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    Ottawa v Edmonton is still alive. #DareToDream
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    No, the fact that it's a nickname for the city is why it's not fit to be on a jersey. "The Big Apple" is a fine nickname for Gotham (as is "Gotham"), but I don't want to see it on a jersey either. Same for Stumptown, Oaktown, the Olde Towne, the Cream City, the Motor City, the City by the Bay, the City of Big Shoulders, any of the various Queen Cities, or any number of other perfectly fine and charming nicknames that look similarly stupid when used in place of a city's actual name. I don't even like "Golden State" and am glad its days are numbered.
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    Isn't that largely a function of NBA rules, which seem to require a primary logo with city and team name? So teams technically have one but in practice use simpler and more evocative logos, which must be officially designated as secondaries?
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    I presume this is already being discussed in a mega thread, but it's worth a conversation on its own: the Trail Blazers unveiled new logos yesterday. The article on NBA.com includes this delightful animation of their logo history: I like the update a lot: farewell ugly rhombus; good riddance pointless spiky things. But this doesn't actually fix the main problem I have with the logo, which is that it isn't a P yet could so easily be. I know, it's a B for Blazers, but city initials are always better than nickname initials. Besides, the NBA is even using the pinwheel as a P in an ad running across the top of the page: What is that supposed to be? "bresented by Moda"? "qresented by Moda"? Flip the pinwheel around, and it would be so much better.
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    The nickname "Rip City" was coined by an announcer during a loss. In the 70s. There's nothing "street" or "youthful" about it. And "sticky"? You need to dial the marketing talk down about 30%, lest you eventually devolve to just typing disjointed words.
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    It could. When the New Orleans Hornets decided they wanted to change their name changed their name and gave up their history so the Bobcats could survive, there was a lot of talk around here of New Orleans Krewe (Or was it "Krewe of New Orleans"?) or New Orleans Rugerou (spelling). The former are the people the pick up all the beads and stuff after Mardi Gras parades and the later is some sort of legendary big-foot-like creature or something. A lot of people thought those were great names. But I recall someone suggesting that they were "too local." I, for one, had heard of neither and felt they were too local. Brewers and Steelers are locally-appropriate, but most Americans understand those. I kinda think it's a little "too local" and, therefore, it kinda matters. The team (as is the case for all NBA teams) is on a national stage. They probably should not have an inside joke on their uniform. I was more aware of Rip City than a couple others (though not of the specific story) but given how unknown it is outside of Oregon, I'd argue it's "too local." Of course, even if it was not too local, I repeat myself and a couple of others; I also don't like Motor City, etc., so that's not even the issue for me. If Rip City resonates with the fan base, then I'd bee cool visiting Portland, going to a game, and seeing 10,000 t-shirts. I don't think it works for a uniform, mainly because it's too informal...a couple extra negative points for being "too local."
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    Wasn't it coined by said announcer during a loss? Hardly stuff worth memorializing. I think it's more than a few others who don't get it. Like @McCarthy I only heard of it when the Blazers started wearing it. Meanshile I knew Portland was the Rose City for considerably longer. So it seems like one of those monikers is more widely known (and thus more appropriate to a jersey you're selling the world over) than the other. That's what I mean when I say manufactured. "Rose City," "Motor City," and "the Windy City" are all names that have endured for decades, if not centuries. "Rip City" was coined by someone associated with the team, for the team. A (very unscientific) sample size indicates that it's not well known outside of Portland. And agajn. I'm only harping on this because the city of Portland has a legitimately authentic nickname in the form of "Rose City" they passed over for something not nearly as well known.
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    Let's finish the ALC with the Twins! In the end, I decided to go for the mainly green scripts, keeping the red script for their primary logo (as you can see in the sleeve patch). As suggested by @SFGiants58, I brought back the pinstripes for the home uniform. Both home and road alts feature the TC monogram on the front and the M as cap logo, and can be interchangeable, but I decided to use the combination Green-Home, Red-Road for the presentation because I think it looks better.
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    No, and it's why I've never cared for any Blazers logo. The current update is certainly better, but it's more or less just the 90s logo with a few tweaks. Which surpassed the version that unnecessarily added points and silver. As I said though, none of the Blazers' logos have impressed me. The look is a relic of that 70s aesthetic that gave us the Brewers' ball-in-glove and the Canucks' stick-in-rink. Logos that emphasized the sport and not the team identity. That can work in a lot of cases, but I just feel like both Portland as a city and the name "Trailblazers" have so much to offer in terms of a visual identity. An abstract representation of 5 on 5 basketball just seems underwhelming. Even when executed properly. And the "Rip City" stuff is just sad. I actually thought it was a legimate local name for Portland until @Bucfan56 explained the story behind it. I don't know why they don't commit to "Rose City" when "Rip City" feels so manufactured.
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    Well at least it's not a Von Dutch trucker hat
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    Agree completely on the "5 on 5"/ motion. Distinct and clever, evocative of the sport but not so literal as a piece of equipment. It deserves to be timeless, even though they keep tinkering with it.
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    I think the Miami Marlins have a fun clean aesthetic please don't shoot me down.
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    90s baseball aesthetic speaks to my soul.
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    "Hmm. We want to stand out in the Pacific Division from our nearest rivals, what colors do they all have?" "Black." "Ok, so we'll definitely want black involved. You know, fbs. What else you got?" "Well, Anaheim also has gold." "Well we gotta have gold! We're the Golden Knights after all! VEGAS BABY! ....But not too much gold I hope?" "No, no, it'll be secondary." "Good, good. What should we have for a primary then?" "Black!" "Well no, we want that to be fbs." "Oh, right. Right." "We do need something dull though. Like duller than dull." "Like, grey?" "Grey could work but only if we went darker. You know, to compliment the black." "Ok..." "Dark grey mixed with teal! Nobody uses teal anymore!" "Well San Jos-" "And a splash of Red!" "Red? Sir, I-" "We've got it! Dark Teal-Grey, Gold, Black, and Red." "I don't even think Teal-Grey is a col-" "Nevermind that, we'll call it 'Slate'. 'Cause that sounds coool." *Lights cigarette* "Vegas, baby."
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    @McElroy19. Ok as I mentioned yesterday my versions are heavily inspired by the U.S.A.F. Thunderbirds. Secondary is more Native Thunderbird design inspired. The only difference between the Primary marks is the addition of gray. Still tinkering with the secondary so if I get it to where I want it I'll post it a little later. Hope everyone digs them. Thnx!
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    Welcome to what is now my first completed concept series, the NHL City Mashup Series! In this series, I will be taking the identity of each NHL team and combining it with the identity of another team (different sport) in that team's city. Some rules I set for myself were Team must be in either the MLB, NBA, NFL, MLS, or CFL. The jersey must be in the style of the NHL team's jersey. The other team's colours will be the ones on the jersey. The fonts should be either the official team's font or a close matching font. Teams: Anaheim Ducks (Angels) Arizona Coyotes (Cardinals) Boston Bruins (Celtics) Buffalo Sabres (Bills) Calgary Flames (Stampeders) Carolina Hurricanes (Charlotte Hornets) Chicago Blackhawks (Cubs) Colorado Avalanche (Nuggets) Columbus Blue Jackets (Crew) Dallas Stars (Cowboys) Detroit Red Wings (Tigers) Edmonton Oilers (Eskimos) Florida Panthers (Heat) Los Angeles Kings (Dodgers) Minnesota Wild (Twins) Montreal Canadiens (Expos) Nashville Predators (Titans) New Jersey Devils (Jets) New York Islanders (Nets) New York Rangers (Knicks) Ottawa Senators (Redblacks) Philadelphia Flyers (Eagles) Pittsburgh Penguins (Pirates) San Jose Sharks (49ers) St Louis Blues (Cardinals) Tampa Bay Lightning (Buccaneers) Toronto Maple Leafs (Raptors) Vancouver Canucks (Whitecaps) Vegas Golden Knights (Raiders) Washington Capitals (Wizards) Winnipeg Jets (Blue Bombers) without further adieu, here's the first mashup, the Anaheim Angels in the style of the Anaheim Ducks. (Yes, I am aware they aren't the Anaheim Angels, but heck with that) C&C is appreciated! I am also considering doing throwback jerseys for each mashup, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the idea.
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    Congrats on completing a third of the League, brother. This has been one heck of a series!!!
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    My favorite part of this set is also the subtle use of cream, it looks especially good on the home uniform. Nice job! It's been a solid series so far.
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    I guess I like the update too, though it's close enough to subtle, that I don't have really strong feelings. So the uniforms will make or break this update. Thanks to this board, I actually "get" this logo, which I always thought was just some abstract connection to their name. Thanks specifically to this thread and @BrandMooreArt for pointing out the genius of this logo being more a nod to the sport than the team but in a less obvious/overdone way of using equipment. It's still kinda seems 70s to me, but it's kind of earned its staying power and I am glad they don't overhaul the look. I do think it's unfortunate, though not surprising, that they are still going to "officially" perpetuate this "Rip City" nonsense. As an aside, the Blazers logo, in a sense, acknowledges their opponents. That's fairly rare.
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    I think everyone knew from the beginning the Nets were going to emphasize "Brooklyn" rather than "Nets". Too much borough pride.
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    The inaugural Devils jerseys are by far the best they've ever had.
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    Today I have the (I can't believe I'm even typing this) World Series Champion Chicago Cubs. I did change the font in the logo to match the word marks and C better. The Cubs home uniforms are iconic, so there's not much you can change, and frankly not much I would change. The only significant change I made was the change to the retro angry cub logo as a sleeve patch on all of the jerseys, including the home jersey. While the cubs home uniforms have remained relatively untouched over the years, they have experiment with various road looks over the years. I went with the underlined Chicago wordmark because I have always just really liked it. The piping is red on the sleeves and pants mostly because I liked the way it looked and tied into the undeline. The blue alternate is a road-only look with the Cubs roundel logo on the left chest paired with the traditonal blue cap. The BP uniform has the angry cub on the cap and a Cubs wordmark across the front of a simple blue jersey. Well there they are. Thanks for taking the time to have a look and I appreciate any and all feedback.
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    So the pinwheel is just covering up the ad, not actually being used as the letter 'p'.
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    When your practice uniform matches better than your actual uniform...
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    Why would they want the illusion of a complete collar? That wouldn't bring attention to Nike's template.
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    Next up are the Atlanta Braves. They remain mostly untouched, with the main difference being a white outline on the tomahawk and wording on the home and road uniforms, white writing and a white tomahawk on their red uniform, piping on the blue uniform to match the rest of their uniforms.
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    Godspeed, '16-'17 Jazz. Honest to goodness my favorite Jazz team since Stockton and Malone. Hopefully they can keep Hayward and most of the .co to make a better run. But if not, well, this was one heck of a year. Proud of 'em.
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    I don't like the Steelers logo.
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    I'm usually not a fan of two toned jerseys but these worked so well for me in a strange way.
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    Some more good info about the Blazers' new logos here: http://www.nba.com/blazers/forwardcenter/trail-blazers-update-pinwheel-prepare-jersey-changes Also, I absolutely love this animation of their logo history.
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    I'm thinking something like this Sharks concept by @Go Red Sox!: Just make the light teal a bit more mint-y, and you'd be set!
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    Exactly, and it's a name that's been around for nearly 50 years, since the team's first season. It essentially is a legitimate local name. Sure, it's obviously associated with the Blazers, but they're a huge part of the city's identity and culture. Locals know the city as "Rip City" in the context of the Blazers, just like they know it as "Rose City", "Bridgetown", "Stumptown", etc. in other contexts.
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    5-on-5 basketball blazed a lot of trails in the 20th century.
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    The Warriors could very well sweep a top-8 team tonight and Draymond's worried about competitive balance?! Go home Dray, you're drunk. That or be an example and go play for a team that's not stacked to the gills with superstars.
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    Brewers make the beer, the Packers organize and ship it off in waves to make Bucks for the entire operation
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