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    It already seems like they have sort of become America's Team. ..partly because a lot of people (most outside this board as far as I can tell) felt like getting everyone out was good enough and the school has been persecuted and partly because Big Bad Ohio State made the playoff. It seems like people want PSU to be a top-flight program again because that's what matters. There are two issues...Paterno and the program. I don't think too many outside of the Valley are too into defending Paterno. It is just the hard-core doing that. However, nationally, folks just want to forget the story and move on and I think winning helps people think that is happening. For me it was never really about Paterno...he was one of several people who enabled Sandusky. I don't think the school should honor him, but when I wanted an actual impactful punishment, it was about the culture, of which Paterno was only a part... and can continue through a lot of personnel turnover. That culture valued football wins over basic decency and I'm not convinced getting rid of some people removes that culture. And that culture seems reflected in their role as a national favorite. I feel like it was a missed opportunity to make sure the risk outweighs the reward in covering up sexual assaults. And that's much bigger than Paterno.
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    With the murky home/road situation for this year's Winter Classic, I decided it would be a perfect time to try a colour vs. colour matchup, the Buffalo Sabres in gold and the New York Rangers in the shade of navy used in the logos they released yesterday. I used Reebok's vintage wool collar on the Adidas template. For the Sabres, I modelled the design after their original sock striping. I inverted the colours and added white accents, and used a white version of the new Buffalo logo. To uncluster the design, I removed a stripe set from the hem and moved the numbers to the shoulders. Like the 2016 Bruins, I only used the NY logo on the helmet. For the Rangers, I decided to use their classic three-stripe pattern from the 80s and 90s. I used straight, simple lettering on the back, and the white version of the new NY logo. I simplified the pant striping while keeping it red, and put the Winter Classic logo on the chest to match the Sabres jersey. C&C Appreciated!
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    I can see your point. Personally, I just want stuff to look good; the year the idea was created notwithstanding. The two specific ones I called out were these, though: One is straight-up modern, the other one has more old-school elements (i.e. shoulder loops and gray facemask). For me, though, the color balance is off. Arizona has multiple shades of red. An aforementioned "amazing" Boise state look has an okay jersey/pants with a unbalanced helmet that I really don't like. But then you have other uniforms that are modern and look really good. Again, it's about balance, not modern vs old
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    This is obviously an oversimplification, but it's still definitely a sentiment that dominates this and many other threads. I'm not saying people have to change their sensibilities, but it would be nice if opinions that went against the norm for CCSLC weren't immediately belittled by more tenured posters. I mean, we're surely better than this right? Both of these posts make VikingsNotMinnesota's point for him.
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    I generally forego thinking when I design logos. Glad you like them! The designers are well aware of hockey’s visual history. I understand the sentiment, but you're assuming a new design team just comes in and says, “WTF!? Why don't the socks match the jersey!?” The teams have input on these changes and the requests can even come straight from them. Definitely disagree with this. The black trim badly muddied up the typography on the home uniform. The nameplate letters filled in at a distance and the number trim made them look fuzzy at the edges. The new ones are much cleaner and crisper, the readability is much better, and the new lettering matches their logo and brand quite nicely now. The numbers also match the shoulder yoke, so they integrate the uniform elements better as well.
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    Sorry, I can't agree. The Bruins wore socks from 1931 to 2017. The Bruins' gold sock look was older than the Detroit Red WIngs' name and logo for crying out loud. It's older than the lace-up collar. "More clean and consistent" does not mean "good." Plenty of classic uniforms, across all sports, have had inconsistencies here or there. That adds to the charm and uniqueness these looks have. Hell, what are the two most commonly cited "best uniforms in hockey"? The Blackhawks and Canadiens. Both of which have mismatching home and road sets. So yeah, the Bruins look more consistent with black socks, but it doesn't mean they look "better." To me? They look too dark and too drab. The whole look just seems "off." Sure, it's a great look for a team. Just not the Boston Bruins.
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    When you have something you wanna improve on, you have something you wanna improve on. In this case, the split scripts I'd used for a Blue Jays set in the Rivalry Series. I've thought about making a contemporary uniform with those scripts for a while, and now is as good a time as any. The two scripts are based on older uniforms worn by the Jays' predecessors, the baseball Maple Leafs, with the addition of the Blue Jays' trademark split. The jay head is on the sleeve of the whites instead of the front because frankly, with this script, the front would just be too cluttered that way. For the hell of it, I included an alternate T cap. The alt blue is, like its RL counterpart, a negative of the homes, though I almost went with a royal-to-navy faux gradient and navy pants. The road alt recolors the grays into powder blue, with a powder-front cap to go with it. And since this one wouldn't leave me alone, fauxback pullovers, 80s style with the current scripts. Posting is a virtue.
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    Another example is how proper coloring makes all the difference: Same uniform but coloring make a lot of difference.
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    Navy facemask just looks so much cleaner. The perfect balance of Navy & White.
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    Maybe a Sixers "The Process" jersey
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    Never seen a school start any uniform reveal with the alternate.
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    In all fairness, the new numbers (when they were the old numbers) worked much better with the old logo. Honestly, I wish they’d ditch the extra outline on the B and go back to the unique home and road color variations of the logo.
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    That is not even remotely what I'm saying, what? I personally prefer traditional looks myself, but not every traditional look is good, and not every modern look is bad. There is a literal dichotomy where all modern aesthetics are bad, and all traditional aesthetics are good. You can't seriously say, as a form of any kind of art (and yes, like it or not, football uniform design is a form of art), that it's that simple. At that point you're basically that one 15 year old on reddit who says all modern music is trash and that queen and the who are the greatest bands ever. I mean seriously That is your entire idea of what modern style uniforms are. Never mind that Boise just rocked an amazing storm trooper look last weekend (which if you disagree with that, I'll be happy to discuss why), all modern uniforms are anthracite chrome swag nike garbage. That is the problem right there. When a board has decided to dichotomize it's opinions, that is how destructive circlejerks start, which we basically have, and have had for a while. There we go, that's something. Honestly clemson has one of my favorite uniforms, if not my all time favorite uniforms in college football. That said, their pants need a purple outline stripe. It just looks really weird when their helmet has purple outlines, and their jerseys have purple outlines, but their pants have none. Also I think this game going Orange, Purple, Orange would've been better, just so they contrast with Auburn's aways better. Which, speaking of, holy hell where do I begin. Triple stripe big logon on the helmet, Triple shoulder stripe AND tv numbers, giant mismatching pants stripe, just jesus christ there is WAY too much going on. Their homes work because the dark blue soaks up a lot of that action, but their aways are a mess. I think just have the AU logo on the hip and get rid of the pants stripe, would enormously improve their whole set. It doesn't math their other stripes anyway, and is just an eyesore overall, not needed. Though really, their colors are just too similar for it to be a great matchup, not much to save honestly.
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    Ah a good ol' Viking fight! (no I am not saying oldschoolvikings and VikingsNotMinnesota are "fighting" and I ain't getting in this fight. Just being pun-ny)
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    Seems like the motto should be "20th Anniversary: We Can't Believe It, Either"
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    What I don't get is choosing to die on this hill if you're a Joe Paterno fan. I have sports heroes too. If any of them did what Joe Paterno did they wouldn't be my sports heroes anymore and I wouldn't go out of my way to defend them. If you stake yourself to that side there's no way to come off in a good light. The best possible outcome for you is your football coach was a dumbass who heard from an assistant coach that his former assistant was raping a boy in the shower and then didn't do anything about it. That's...not great and that's best case scenario. Why go to bat for the guy in even that scenario? Consider, then, the more likely scenarios based on testimonies, anecdotes, timelines of when Sandusky left the program and ask yourself, be honest with yourself, was that really the first time Paterno, the man lauded for being the controlling, omnipotent presence leading the PSU football program, heard something like that? The probability of that is low, which means Paterno allowed a known pedophile to bring kids to his facility for years. At best your guy was an idiot, at worst he was complicit in the molestation. In any case he prioritized football over the safety of those kids and in any case you're on the wrong team. The best way to play it if you're interested in being viewed as a compassionate person capable of separating your sports interests from that of your humanity, Penn Staters, is go "yeah no way around it that Paterno :censored:ed up and we as a community need to reevaluate our priorities because our over-emphasis on amateur football and our deification of the head coach directly contributed to a culture that allowed for years of unchecked molestation of dozens of kids." That's all you have to say.
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    My DIY magnetic standings board is ready for the season. My wife said I had to keep it at my office and not on our refrigerator.
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    Well now we're just trying to say the wackiest thing possible. Arizona has great uniforms! There, I did it. I said the silliest thing.
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    No one has ever said that here. Ever. Seems to me, this is an obvious case of you hearing what you want to hear. Just to be clear, you're saying that without fail, your well thought out, intelligent defenses of your opinions are universally met with neanderthal grunts of "old is good, new is bad." Oh, OK.
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    Nope. Some of us gray haireds like the classic looks, mainly because college football was invented way before 2005.
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    I like the look of this jersey. I just don't like it as a Celtics uniform since it feels like a big downgrade from their traditional uniform.
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