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    Well, when I think "Alabama," "trash" is pretty much the first thing that comes to mind, so... natural fit?
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    Thanks for the feedback. Next up, the New York Giants. This is essentially a modernization of their 1971 uniforms. Striping consistency is restored, with the exception of the home jersey, which remains stripeless. Grey pants would be worn the majority of the time with this set. White pants could be substituted a few times per year. The primary logo depicts an interlocking N-Y with a G and the Empire State Building as a backdrop. I figured since 'Giants' probably refers to their skyscrapers, they should have some kind of reference to it in their logo. The red G with a blue border is also consistent with the striping. A simpler version of the logo appears on the helmet. For some reason, anything but a plain white logo looks weird on their helmet. C+C is appreciated!
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    The part that gets me the most is that they went with the nickname for a racoon, instead of actually racoons... Rocket City Racoons is a million times better than Rocket City Trash Pandas. They could still use the same branding, jokes, connections, yada yada yada whatever. The alliteration, and the more obvious connection are great, but instead, they went with a nickname that people hardly use anyways...
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    Well since ya don't gone and went there... I've given myself about a good two years to let these new sets sink in and...I still find myself pining for a return to those old classics. I can take or leave the Unconquered number font--but those old Glades Bold numbers WERE Florida State for the longest (and I prefer them in white). So too was that redder garnet--and that's something I still haven't adjusted to in this new set: the almost "purpler" garnet. I want the old shade back! (Oh, and the new pattern can go back to being just sleeve cuff trim akin to the collar trim as well...) And since we're discussing better looks of arch rivals, let me repay the favor in kind...naturally I ain't got no [sports] love for them Swamp Thangs™, but their former uniforms were seriously some of the best in all of football... I mean, their current uniforms aren't bad, now...but that half-jacked MLB block number font they have now can get gone tomorrow.
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    What a great way to honor umpires
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    Thanks! I've already done the Browns in several variations. I've also got an Expos concept from my previous thread, which I'll repost here when the time comes (chronological). I'll do a few further variants on them (e.g., one with the "elbM," one with something from the rejected name list, etc.) Thanks. This one (in this post) should be the last of the A's for a while. Before getting into the project, I had no idea about how thoroughly that asshat Charlie O. Finley pimped out the A's to literally every viable market that didn't have a team. I'm legitimately sick of doing A's concepts, as it gets hard to make this damn team look different for each location. Luckily, the 1970s/80s will only have three relocation destinations for them (New Orleans, Chicago, and Phoenix). After that, it's just San Jose and Portland (that last one based on hella loose rumors from our Portland MLB thread). Thanks! The primary logo was a joy to create. I did consider angled scripts, but I prefer the straight across. It looks more like a surfboard/surf shop graphic that way. Still, angled scripts look pretty good here. Yeah, that's not happening. I'm sorry, but unless there's verifiable evidence of a team attempting to move to a location, I won't put it in the series. It's a historical exercise that tries to remain grounded. Thanks! It's goofy, but I love a good dollop of goofy. Thank you! I'm contemplating how to handle the Expos' potential relocations, and I've decided to follow Stadium Page's listings of Portland, Norfolk, and Northern Virginia. I'll probably combine the two Virginia locales under the state name and go with something state-related. In the "modern age of branding," I doubt the Expos name would really work anywhere else. Ha! Thanks. I did think about light blue as a more prominent accent, but I don't like adding additional outlines that would muddle up a look/blur with the royal blue or background color. My early version of the A's had powder blue as the blue shade, but I rejected it for looking too washed-out. Thanks! Anyway, it's on to the least-beloved defunct team, the Kansas City Athletics! KANSAS CITY ATHLETICS, PT. I - Kauffman Coughs up a Modernized Classic When analyzing why the A's failed to gain traction in Kansas City and are the least well-remembered relocated team, there are two easy targets to blame. They are: Asshat Owner #1 - Arnold "Yankee Fetishist" Johnson As stated previously in the thread, the Athletics left Philadelphia as the result of family squabbles and financial problems within the Mack family, leaving them in the position for Arnold Johnson (owner of Yankee Stadium and Blues Stadium - home of the Yankee affiliate Kansas City Blues) to buy the team with the assistance of the Yankees' lobbying (also helped by squabbles within the various Philadelphia-based syndicates vying to buy the A's).1 While he sold his Yankee Stadium property, Johnson found other ways to benefit New York for his own gain. His ownership period of 1955-60 saw the team turn into an unofficial Yankees minor-league team, as the A's performing 16 trades with New York (including the infamous Roger Maris exchange).2 There were also rumors about him trying to move the team to Los Angeles, but that petered out around the time he died in 1960. Johnson was one of baseball greatest villains, crippling a team for the "greater good" of the Yankees. Hearing about these shenanigans/obvious collusion makes it all too apparent why baseball faced popularity problems outside of New York (the 1950s were anything but a golden age for the sport). Arnold Johnson/Yankee owners Del Webb and Dan Topping's actions make the Stanton trade look like child's play. After Johnson: Asshat Owner #2: Charlie "O Great this Pompous Chode" Finley (Source: a movie that sort of misses the point of the original book) While Johnson may put the Jeter group to shame, Charlie O. Finley makes guys like Stan Kroenke and Austin Precourt look tame by comparison. If this series has demonstrated anything, it's that Finley had very little confidence in the Kansas City market. He straight-up said this: While it was stated under duress (fighting with the AFL's Chiefs and Kansas City over his lease at Municipal Stadium), Charlie O. clearly had no intention on ever staying in the market.3 While he set the stage for successes in Oakland (rebuilding the minors - something Connie Mack never did, upgrading the identity by adopting the green/yellow color scheme, and doing silly promotions), he also sowed the seeds of instability under his watch (managerial shake-ups, exacting his abrasive personality on everybody around him, being cheap, etc.). He left after the Truman Sports Complex received approval, getting what he wanted all this time, for better or worse. However, what if a certain owner came in to stop the bleeding? Meet Ewing Kauffman, Kansas City-based pharmaceuticals magnate whose wife Muriel wanted him to find a hobby.4 Let's assume that his wife inquired about buying a team earlier, throwing a dump truck full of money at Charlie O. to f--k off. What if he and his people reshaped the team's visual (and competitive) identity? The Kauffman ownership would undo much of what Charlie O. did to the team's identity. Kelly would leave the identity in favor of royal blue (288 C), with yellow-gold remaining as an accent (to prevent the Midwest Dodgers look). Much like the Royals, the team would experiment with powder blue road uniforms, cursive scripts (modernizing the Johnson-era look - Old English + cursive - without the stigma of his crapulence), and asymmetrical stripes (a 1980s/90s development, reinstated during the '00s - with a placket variant), all while maintaining Mack-style traits (the white elephant, Old English insignias, and a home uniform with the "A" crest) and not veering far from their core look. The primary logo is a "royal" crest, featuring two baseballs, an Old English interlocking "KC," and the slightly-updated white elephant from my Louisville/Seattle concepts. The insignias are the secondary and tertiary logos. The wordmarks include both cursive and Clarendon Condensed marks. EDIT: I updated the Old English C, thanks to @coco1997's suggestion. Here are the original images: logo sheet, home and road, alternates one and two, and the dugout jacket. The home and road set features asymmetrical stripes on the sleeves, trousers, and placket. I assumed that it would be a 1980s creation, as a means of modernizing a pullover/sansabelt-era look. The primary is on the sleeve, while the tri-stripe (from the '20s-'30s Philadelphia teams) is on the socks. The home set has the "A" insignia, while the powder blue-tinted road uniform displays an Old English/cursive "Kansas City" script. Wilson Varisty numbers pair well with Rawlings Block NOB's. The alternates include a powder blue top with the "Athletics" script. It's a little homage to the first KC A's team (the only honor Johnson was worthy of), paired with the 1970s "glory years" powder blue. There's no yellow-gold jersey, as I'm really sick of featuring them thought that management wouldn't want to indulge in a Charlie O.'s B R A N D of Fort Knox Gold. The "KC" cap has a gold bill, pairing well with the blue jersey. The second set of alternates include the "KC" cap on the home uniform and a 1942 Kansas City Monarchs throwback. The jackets are pretty simple, highlighting the sock striping pattern on the trim of each uniform. The Kansas City Athletics were not beyond redemption and could have turned their identity around to produce a fantastic look. C+C is appreciated, as always! For the first alternate take, put on your red shoes and dance the... 1Robert D. Warrington, “Departure Without Dignity: The Athletics Leave Philadelphia | Society for American Baseball Research,” Society for American Baseball Research, accessed June 25, 2018, https://sabr.org/research/departure-without-dignity-athletics-leave-philadelphia. 2David L. Fleitz, “Baseball Almanac - The Corner of the Dugout : The Yankees and the A’s,” Baseball Almanac, accessed September 7, 2018, http://www.baseball-almanac.com/corner/c042001b.shtml; Jeff Zimmerman, “Valuing Trades Between the Kansas City A’s and New York Yankees,” Royals Review, July 12, 2010, https://www.royalsreview.com/2010/7/12/1565414/valuing-trades-between-the-kansas. 3John E. Peterson, The Kansas City Athletics: A Baseball History, 1954–1967 (Jefferson, N.C.: McFarland, 2012), 179. 4Max Rieper, “Fifty Years Ago Today, Ewing Kauffman Became the First Owner in Royals History,” Royals Review, January 11, 2018, https://www.royalsreview.com/2018/1/11/16878996/fifty-years-ago-today-ewing-kauffman-became-the-first-owner-in-royals-history.
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    Wouldn’t have it any other way. Colorado-Nebraska should look great just like it did back in the day.
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    This was actually the 1996-97 season. The Jazz only used the old court for a couple of weeks. Also, looking back on that court I realize just how much I hate that it was practically maroon and not purple.
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    Are you happy, America? Are you satisfied that there are now three raccoon-based Minor League Baseball teams but not one team named ThunderSharks? ThunderSharks!
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    The defining issue with non-contrast socks and pants is that they are, in essence, an optical illusion. For many of us, one of the important features that makes a football uniform look like an NFL football uniform is the tight pants with tube socks that meet just below the knee. When you get rid of the contrast between the pants and socks, however, it looks like they are wearing a fundamentally different garment altogether, what we often call yoga pants or leggings. The illusion that they're just wearing pants that come all the way down to the ankles is jarring and makes me feel like I'm looking at something that is less professional than an NFL uniform. I'd also argue that it just makes the uniform too bottom heavy in a lot of cases. A big example of this for me is the Lions away uniforms, which are way too blue on their bottom half for their own good.
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    I suppose the only real difference, as with steroids, is that football's integrity isn't worth fighting for. They're already beyond the wristbands in having the coach be able to speak directly to the quarterback on the field. Fine, whatever; football has always been into razzle-dazzle technical advances in their war games. There's just something about a pitcher consulting his instruction manual in the middle of a game, as if he's assembling a new TV, that's so unbecoming to me. Get the hitter out by memory or by brute force. That's what the money's for. I don't buy tickets to a play hoping to see a table read.
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    I still hate the gold numbers they use. It's too Boston College for me. I loved the old uniforms too but I could live with the current if they just swapped the white and gold on the numbers.
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    The Ducks are indeed going all-green on Saturday:
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    As we all know, Cleveland is getting rid of Chief Wahoo next year. There was a bit of a preview Thursday night in Toronto as they took him off their uniforms. A couple years ago for the ALCS, there was a failed challenge against them to prevent them from using Wahoo or even being called the Indians.
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    Close, but not quite. The actual inspiration for the yellow comes from a long line of military history. I wanted to combine two eras of the Chargers' history by utilizing elements from the curved lightning bolt logo and original Los Angeles Chargers logo featuring the horse head. Therefore, my first thought for the horse was the historic knights and cavalry units used by practically every nation known to man. Eventually, I scrapped the idea of having someone riding the horse, and just included the horse/lightning bolt combination. The yellow bolt portion is meant to double as a stylized version of armor/covering that were traditionally placed upon the heads of horses during battle as well as during jousting matches. In many such instances, these covers would also cover the mane of the horse, which is the intent here. Obviously, the design isn't perfectly accurate regarding the head covering, but I feel the stylized version gets the point across. Speaking of which, I have a new updated version of the logo that I think is a bit cleaner and gives a better look at the horse.
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    The Packers manage to look good. Green and Yellow doesn't force you into crappy choices.
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    Apparently, the doctors are saying that Ohtani, who hit 2 HOMERUNS WITH A TORN UCL LAST NIGHT, could DH next season while recovering from Tommy John surgery, then return to pitch in 2020. Once again, I'm thrilled, but I'm also terrified. Give 'em hell, Shohei. Edit: Today also marks the anniversary of the one and only baseball game I have on a VHS tape.
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    Here’s the thing though: the name “Inter/Internacional” Miami only feels cheap to you because you’re entrenched in this view that these traditional soccer names only refer to their original historical contexts. But I would argue that these traditional names like Sporting/Real/Inter/United/City/FC have evolved past their original meanings and taken on fluid meanings as the game of soccer has grown and fans have latched onto teams and clubs that they had no previous attachment to. For example, imagine that 100 years from now Red Bull New York becomes one of the 20 biggest soccer clubs in the world and has Cristiano Ronaldo V at striker. They win the Club World Cup three times and the other Red Bull clubs like RB Leipzig, Salzburg, and Brazil also find success. The only issue is that Red Bull as a company folds in the year 2065... they sell off the clubs to private buyers to cover their debts, but at this point the club’s identities are so successful and valuable, the new owners choose to keep the names and branding. Eventually, people stop remembering that Red Bull made energy drinks and only associate them with soccer teams. Now in this fictional scenario, the African Nations Premier League is founded in 2093 and in 2118, Botswana is awarded a franchise in Gaborone. Because they want the team to appear to fans as a true high level team, they take the name RB Gaborone. The only connection to the name Red Bull is that there is a literal red bull on the national coat of arms of Botswana; but the name sounds professional and is close vision the team has for its identity. When RB Gaborone chooses this name, are they referencing Red Bull the company? I mean, that’s the original context right? Or, are they referencing the 100 years of prestige that other soccer clubs with the name RB have achieved since and they now look to emulate? Discounting the name “Inter/Internacional” as cheap or lazy just because it doesn’t fit the historical context or that it’s borrowed or inspired from something else and not seeing what they’re attempting to do with it (like the Spanish name on the team’s crest) isn’t fair.
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    I said it in the "Minor-League, Indy & Summer Collegiate Logo" thread and I'll repeat it here. Rocket City Trash Pandas? Really? How abject a level of stupidity will what passes for modern, minor-league sports branding have to sink to before some franchise's management team refuses to take part in the exercise? This is what happens when a too-self-reverentially-clever-for-its-own-good design firm counsels a team's ownership group to present fans with a predetermined pool of mediocre-to-terrible team identities and then waits for bad taste and human nature to take over in the ensuing "Name-the-Team" vote. And as if taking the field as the Rocket City Trash Pandas wasn't embarrassing enough, the easily-gulled owners and management in Madison will inevitably double-down on their questionable judgement and allow Jason and Casey to talk them into throwing a "What If? Night", during which they'll don the logo and colors of the Madison Moon Possums. Oh... and let's not forget the inevitable food-themed identity package that the team will be talked into securing for a reasonable up-charge. After all, what's a minor league baseball season without the opportunity to cheer on the North 'Bama Butter Beans for a homestand or two? Brandiose has gone from creating a sports identity package as classically attractive as that sported by the Clearwater Threshers to... well, "jumping the ThunderShark". If this doesn't represent the nadir of modern sports branding, I don't want to see what does.
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    It feels like an eternity ago that Mizzou was wearing the block M on their helmets. I would have expected Sparky was still on Arizona State's helmet at that time.
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    Are blind people gonna come to the park to watch the Orioles play in those Braille jerseys?
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    I just want to throw this out there but the 2019 season is the NFL 100th Season so with that we could theoretically be getting throwbacks for some teams like the AFL Anniversary and the NFL 75th Anniversary. Now, I know there's a helmet rule but I'm not gonna get into that so I'm going back to my point, anyways, this 100th Season would theoretically mean that the New York Jets have an excuse to break out a throwback and if they do that means the modern uniforms will be completely different. Even if you're getting Modern Jets, you will probably get Classic Jets too.
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    The uniform selection in NBA 2K19 is incredible. Alot of gems and rarities that I wasn't expecting.
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    Thanks for the feedback everyone. While I work on the Ravens, here's the LA Rams. My thinking here was to split the difference between the 80's Rams and the 50's Rams, combining bold, modern color blocking with a more retro logo set. Athletic gold returns, complemented by a new dodger blue. The primary is a compromise between their 50's and 60's logo and their current ram head. I also created an LA monogram and a vintage-looking leaping ram logo. Home and road pants could be mixed and matched every once in a while. C+C appreciated!
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    Well, I suppose every team in the NY area that has a name that rhymes with 'regrets' has to ultimately go through this stage. Unfortunately for the Nets they haven't left the stage yet, let's hope the Jets stage is a maximum 5 years.
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