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    /end thread. (These are such a disgrace.)
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    A complete set of uniforms, plus court designs, will follow in July.
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    Simple? Sure. Bland? No. Never should have got rid of this set.
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    Pretty sure these fall under the category of "classically designed." Unless you're trolling.
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    Well, guess who's back! I apologize for the delays. I had some things I needed to attend to in my personal life, and this kind of fell on the back-burner. Thanks, guys! I'm glad you liked the Browns set. It was a lot of fun building the whole set, and I'm glad I added the Swingin' Louie (thanks @Carolingian Steamroller for the suggestion). Thanks! My guess would be that the Braves moved to Baltimore (becoming the Orioles), while the Pilots either stayed put or simply didn't exist. Anyway, here we go! MILWAUKEE BREWERS (FORMER ST. LOUIS BROWNS) - Swingin' and Brewin' It is well-known that Bill Veeck, upon learning that Anheuser-Busch Inc. bought the Cardinals (and even before that), attempted to move the Browns to Milwaukee. The club spent its first year in Milwaukee (the founding location of the American League, as noted by this sign across the street from the Milwaukee County Historical Society's headquarters), but then moved to St. Louis and played like a toxic trash heap for the better part of 50 years. With Veeck's former ownership of the American Association Brewers, such a move made sense. Unfortunately, the Old Boys' Club known as the American League owners wanted Veeck out and wouldn't let him move (finally allowing the team to move to Baltimore after selling the club). However, what if the move happened? In this series, let's suppose Veeck struck a deal to sell the team to Fred Miller while remaining in the organization. The AL owners would approve this move, transporting the team to Milwaukee and renaming the team the Brewers. Aesthetically, they would be a blend of the American Association Brewers and the Orioles, with a co-dominant color scheme and a cartoon logo. The color scheme would change, as Miller/Veeck would be anxious to downplay the Browns. Instead of navy/red, let's say navy/yellow-gold became the color scheme of choice, a unique color scheme in baseball that would homage the American Association team and fit in with the beer imagery/Marquette colors (UWM was red/white at the time). Powder would pop up in the 1970s/'80s, sticking around as an accent color (because it fits the city really well). Like the Baltimore Orioles, a locally-styled color scheme would supplant an ill-fitting one. Miller/Veeck ownership and their descendants would make sure to keep the general feel of this identity intact (again, akin to the Orioles). Much like the Orioles and the American Association Brewers, the team's identity revolves around cartoon logos. A new rendering of Owgust is the center of the identity, based around the 1947/mid-60s-1977, 1943, and 1942 versions (with some bits of my updated Wally Bird in the cap) - thanks @Gothamite for making them readily available on http://borchertfield.com. It also has a facsimile of the Brewers' old block M, which is notably less Michigan-y than others (narrow). The primary features the logo in a roundel with TribeType font and wheat leaves. The secondary is the head alone (with a yellow-gold outline) and the tertiary is the full Owgust logo. I'd like to send a big shout-out to @Htown1141 for workshopping the logos with me. Thank you so much for taking time to help me refine it. The uniforms are a blend of my previous Brewers concept (with American Association-style scripts, blue/yellow/blue stripes, and Packers-style sock stripes) and the Orioles (light-colored scripts/lettering with dark outlines, cartoon logo on cap, MLB Block Standard numbers with Rawlings Block NOB letters, etc.). I did make some modifications to the numbers, with dark-colored front numbers/NOB's and a Packers-style notch on the "5." I also used a powder blue-tinted base on the greys, for a bit more character. The first set of alternates have a bit more of an Oriole-ish touch. The gold alternate has a white front panel on the cap, while the navy alternate features the roundel and a yellow-gold/white contrast on the numbers. The final set of alternates are a bit more "civic" in nature. The special event jersey uses a light blue base with the "Milwaukee" script, for various special events (e.g., 4/14, opening of Summerfest, etc.). It also has a cap to match Owgust's cap (and to emulate the Orioles' "O's" hat). The second is my old 1948 American Association Brewers concept, with a recolored version of my new Owgust logo. It's a nice way to tie in the new and old clubs. The dugout jackets are updates of my previous Brewers jackets, with the primary one gaining the "Milwaukee" script, the roundel, and the new Owgust. The 1940s jacket features an update Owgust. The Brewers/Orioles fusion turned out better than I thought it would! Not only does it allow the Brewers (former Browns) to embrace Owgust, but it keeps them further away from their cluttered mess of an identity and other side-effects (e.g.. Selig, "Wrigley North," etc.). C+C is appreciated, as always! Up next, the Philly A's!
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    PHILADELPHIA ATHLETICS, PT. I - Mack Quits While He’s Ahead When observing baseball history, one may wonder why the Athletics left Philadelphia when they were historically more successful than the Phillies. Here is an excellent article by Robert D. Warrington from SABR that sums it up, but for those of you who want the short version, here it is: That is the best summary of the A’s existence from the 1930s-1954. Family squabbles within the Mack and Shibe families, cheap ownership (the A’s were the Mack family’s only asset, compared to the Phillies being only one part of Robert Carpenter’s commercial empire), and poor play under the leadership of an increasingly-senile Connie Mack lead to the A’s falling behind to the Phillies. They were in a poor enough position that the AL owners approved of their sale to the Yankee Toadie and move to Kansas City. However, what if Connie Mack quit while he was ahead? What if he sold the team to Philadelphia investors (maybe Bob Carpenter) during the ‘30s or ‘40s, allowing the team to remain in Philadelphia? I figured that with the team staying in Philadelphia and Charlie O. Finley not buying the team, they would stick to blue as their main color. I chose a blue that was a split between royal and navy (both worn by the team - scroll and you'll see), namely 281 C (used by the 1970s Dallas Cowboys). I added yellow gold as an accent color to reference the city’s Swedish heritage/flag, the A’s and Phillies' experiments with that color scheme (see the previous link), and to differentiate the team from the Tigers (my biggest problem with the A’s old design - too close for comfort). The modern elephant logo (which I’m sure the team would have developed eventually) resides in a keystone for the primary, with the wordmarks within and below it. The secondary is the Old English A, which is modified from my Project 32 “A’s” insignia. The wordmark uses a simplified Old English font, for better reproduction at small sizes. The uniforms borrow the striping style from the 1950 golden jubilee uniforms while incorporating a yellow-gold double stripe on the socks. The full-bodied elephant is on the sleeve. The road uniform uses an Old English P, modified from the logo of the Stockton Ports (an A’s affiliate ). I figured that the A’s would have made more of an effort to acknowledge their city, especially if the Phillies moved away. The alternates are pretty straightforward. The first is a yellow-gold jersey with the full “Athletics” wordmark with an underline, as the team would not have experimented with cursive scripts (1954 doesn’t count, as the team had one foot out the door by that point). The second is a blue top featuring a “P” cap in the style of the modern A’s. It also features the primary, for more city name promotion. The dugout jacket is pretty standard fare, with the team name spelled out (like the Yankees’ dugout jacket) and the primary on the sleeve. Designing an A’s concept without any Charlie O. touches was pretty fun. They have modern touches, yet are clearly descendants of the teams led by Jimmie Foxx, Al Simmons, Mickey Cochrane, Lefty Grove, Chief Bender, Frank “Home Run” Baker, and the two Eddies (Collins and Plank). C+C is appreciated, as always! Up next, a few Charlie O. touches come our way!
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    NEW YORK (BASEBALL) GIANTS, PT. 1 - Gotto Makes a Giant Contribution Ah yes, it's time to do my favorite team in the previous incarnation! When trying to assess why the Giants left New York City, one can point to a variety of factors. These factors included, but were not limited to: 1. The poor condition of the Polo Grounds, due to a lack of funds (the team and stadium rentals were Horace Stoneham's only asset) and hasty construction of the building. 2. Changes in transportation necessitated the need for larger parking lots. Unfortunately for the Giants, much of the land was taken up by Robert Moses' (I have yet to read Power Broker, which I'm hoping to rectify soon) housing projects and other plans. Moses eventually planned to tear down the Polo Grounds in 1962 (one the Giants' lease was up), with speculation about moving them into Yankee Stadium (the Flushing Meadows site wasn't in the works just yet).1 3. The team spent the post-WWII period in a bit of a freefall, with many poor finishes throughout the time (aside from the 1951 pennant and 1954 World Series). 4 (and the biggest one, IMHO). Demographic changes in Harlem, the Polo Grounds' Manhattan neighborhood, ensured that the Giants would not be viable in the long run. The Depression and World War II had a marked impact on the area, with many wealthy white residents leaving the area (for both economic and racist reasons - "White Flight"). Due to the increasingly poor conditions of the neighborhood (due to neglect from government programs and a lack of legitimate employment options for many of the African-American and Latin American residents), crime increased.2 With fewer local fans having disposable income for games or a willingness to walk within the "sketchy" area (one created by both racism and apathy), attendance declined. This is the factor that drove the other ones (renovations, transport, competition, etc.). Stoneham believed that fans would feel safer if they could drive from the suburbs to the stadium, but the lack of parking prevented that. TL;DR: This .gif, but with Son Goku as socio-economic/competitive factors and Frieza as the New York Baseball Giants. However, what if the move didn't go through? What if the team became the Yankees' tenants or found a way to build a Manhattan stadium, set up shop at Flushing Meadows (in the unlikely event that the Dodgers stayed in Brooklyn), or pre-empted the Football Giants by heading to New Jersey? What would these baseball Giants look like? When setting out on this project, I figured that the baseball Giants would not look all that different from the current San Francisco squad. I tried to approach their New York incarnation from the same angle as the team's 2000 redesign, tastefully updating the 1950s/60s uniform set. However, I wanted to incorporate a bit of the Mets' fantastic identity into the design (outside of the "NY," sourced from my previous Mets concept). So, I reasoned that the baseball Giants would want a new primary logo to celebrate a "revival" of sorts, one designed by a very certain Ray Gotto. The new primary is pretty much be the same as the Mets' classic logo, albeit with the Brooklyn elements obscured (e.g., the Williamsburgh Savings Bank Building no longer features, done by using the post-digitization version of the logo) and the bridge being a general suspension bridge (maybe the George Washington Bridge?). The Giants' one-color wordmark is at the center. The tertiary minimizes the primary to a smaller design, with both the cap insignia and the 1883 establishment date. The wordmark font is Ocean Beach Major with modifications, as it's a fantastic modernization of the Giants/Pirates' font style. The uniforms are pretty much the same as my San Francisco Giants concept, but with some notable differences. The number font and the NOB's/white-base home uniforms are off of my Seals/retro Giants concept, while the new primary logo resides on the sleeves. I kept arched wordmarks, as the logo implied that the Giants are named after the giant skyscrapers of the city. Arching does a better job of invoking that compared to arc-ed wordmarks (which work in San Francisco, with the Giants referring to the "giant" bridges of the city - my flimsy rationalization of the name). The alternates bear a great similarity to my old Giants concept as well, with an orange-billed cap paired with an orange top and a black alternate that has the cap logo as an insignia. The second set of alternates pairs the orange-billed cap with the home uniform and contains the throwback to 1933 from my previous concept (featuring @Gothamite's preferred "NY"). It's "different enough" from the current set that it'd work. The dugout jacket is an update of my SF Giants jacket, albeit with the new primary logo and the "NY" on the back. I just love that vintage cursive script. It's a pretty simple concept, emulating the Giants' 2000 redesign while incorporating a few Mets-like elements. C+C is appreciated, as always! Up next, let's take that Mets influence a little further. 1Robert F. Garratt, Home Team: The Turbulent History of the San Francisco Giants (Lincoln: U of Nebraska Press, 2017), 3-9; Stew Thornley, “Polo Grounds (New York) | Society for American Baseball Research,” Society for American Baseball Research, accessed June 27, 2018, https://sabr.org/bioproj/park/58d80eca. 2 Michael Javen Fortner, Black Silent Majority: The Rockefeller Drug Laws and the Politics of Punishment (Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 2015), 24-27; Federico Ribes Tovar, Lolita Lebrón, la prisionera (New York: Plus Ultra Educational Publishers, 1974), 93.
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    Other than the font, these completely lack character. In an effort to make the set mix and match, this uniform has no defining features and does not feature both red and grey together in any element except one helmet.
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    Wow this is mid game??!? Backwards hat, untucked jersey, this is too much for my taste.
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    Sup? It's been a while! Here's what the last 5 expansion teams plus the Coyotes would look like if they were the Original 6. The era I aimed for was the 40s, and everything you see is hand made by me! I have a few more plans for this but C&C is appreciated
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    Can't wait for the jersey to be worn on games this select season.
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    To be bland a uniform cannot be just simple. Blandness implies a tasteless, generic feel. So for me, bland cannot simply be an absence of many design elements but a design where the feature that are present are lazy, cut/paste, or uninteresting. So uniforms I would consider bland would be: and But NOT: or
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    Hey all! Decided to do a fun jersey series during this NBA offseason. These fun alternate jerseys I will be making will all reflect the team name and team name only, as you will see, quite literally. I will be moving down in order of division in each conference and in order of city name in each division. I will kick this series off with these three teams: Boston Celtics: The same look as the Celtics' mascot Brooklyn Nets: Quite literally the weaving of a basketball net. New York Knicks: Since many of you may not know what a Knick is, its short for Knickerbocker, which is an older term for a New Yorker. Thus, the retro vest and tie top and brown pants. More will be coming soon if y'all like this series idea! Template credit to therealpepman
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    No. They're not the Kings.
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    Those Jags unis are the scared-to-take-a-risk equivalent of signing Blake Bortles to an extension.
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    This series is a tribute to the Negro Leagues. Denied a place in segregated white baseball, African American players and businessmen/women formed their own teams and organizations. Though they faced grueling schedules, scarce resources, rampant racism on the road, the men and women who made the Negro Leagues built successful baseball teams that packed stadiums and generated some of the biggest stars of their era: Cool Papa Bell, Josh Gibson, and Satchel Paige. After Jackie Robinson and Larry Doby broke the color line and Black Americans signed with MLB clubs, the Negro Leagues went into slow and steady decline. In the past several years, we've seen Major League team embrace throwbacks from the Negro Leagues as event uniforms. Negro Leagues jerseys are popular sale items at retailers like Ebbett's Field Flannels. However, I have never seen a concept thread on this forum dedicated to the unique and exquisite sartorial style of Negro League clubs. This series was designed with a simple premise in mind: what if in 1947, not just Jackie Robinson the player but entire Negro League franchises were integrated as Major League clubs. Lock, stock, and barrel. Obviously this would create a ripple effect throughout the subsequent history of baseball. Some teams would move cities. Some expansion teams would never come into existence. Likely the concept of the AL and NL would be drastically different. The history of baseball as a business enterprise would no doubt be greatly affected by the presence of multiple African American club owners at the table. Here I strove to ponder what those teams might look like if they were still taking the field today and this presents a challenge greater than designing any specific logos or scripts. Perhaps the most important factor, especially prior to the present day, in a team's appearance was the opinion of ownership. It's why the Yankees still wear pinstripes. It's why the White Sox wore shorts in 1977. Even today, African Americans make up a tiny fraction of owners in professional sports. Michael Jordan of the NBA's Hornets is the lone majority owner of a major professional franchise. Thus, constructing a vision of what kind of influence African American ownership would have over more than half a century of uniform design requires a lot of speculation. Here I am limited by the fact that I am not myself African American. I cannot completely comprehend what changes, innovations, or trends would shape uniforms of the former Negro League teams over the intervening decades. Thus I must declare that what I have done is the best that my own limited powers and particular design tastes can produce. If I have failed or made gross errors in judgment or sensitivity, I ask to please make those frailties known. I pledge to make any and all adjustments necessary up to and including terminating the entire project. If nothing else, I will content myself with opening the door to greater discussion of Negro League uniforms as they, in my opinion, are well worthy of attention.
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    We start off with the evolution of the Baltimore Elite Giants into the Baltimore Elite. In their own day, the Elite Giants had a bold black and red color scheme. So I've adapted that into a streamlined, simple uniform with a slender but bold "ELITE" script on the front of the jersey. The Elite Giants baseball patch remains as a tribute to the team's past. For the alternate, I used the Baltimore script from the early Orioles (since its close to the original Elite Giants script) added sleeve details reminiscent of the Baltimore city flag. C&C encouraged. Enjoy!
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    Honestly, I think there's only reason why the Indians have kept this logo. The Wahoo logo may not represent a particularly good era of Cleveland baseball, but it represents a famous one. Immortalized in pop culture, frozen in amber.
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    Posting this because it's one of the most beautiful concepts I have seen all year!
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    So I’m back with another team, the New York Jets! Haven’t finalized what I want to do with Carolina, so in the meantime, the Jets have been completed. Logo/Colors: I don’t like the current logo. At all. My solution involves combining the Jet portion of the 80s logo and the NY from the current logo set to create a new logo. The colors are slightly altered to a brighter, closer to kelly, green and white. No black in the color scheme, though it was considered being added for outlines. Helmet: The same as the current with the new logo swapped in and the colors updated. All the decals have a more metallic finish like the color rush. Jerseys: Just two, green and white. The sleeves are hard to put into words. I tried combining eras by having the two sleeve stripes like the 80s uniforms, but the top stripe extends to fill the sleeve cap like the current set. The bottom stripe extends slightly onto the chest in the shape of the jet from the logo. For the numbers, I literally Googled “Air Force jet number font” and used one of the first results. I think the font looks classy but still has enough of a modern look to it to fit the rest of the more modern uniforms. Pants: Two pants, green and white. The pants are pretty plain, a two stripe design with modern elements. The back stripe is the jet from the logo, and the front stripe is cut off at the end of the jet like on the sleeves. It doesn’t make sense in words, but once you see the picture it will. Combinations: With just two jerseys and pants, combos are limited. Green over white and white over green would likely make up 80% of the games, with all white being the other 20, though all green on rare occasions isn’t disallowed. Since that probably made no sense or you didn’t bother to read it, I guess I can post some pictures too So what do y’all think? As always, comments and criticisms are welcomed, so let me know your thoughts!
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