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  1. Hockey jerseys have have always had sleeves, bro. The Wild definitely embrace the variety of their wardrobe.
  2. I see what you’re saying. The Bruins’ socks, while they look better in a vacuum, are going to take some getting used to for people. Boston really has had a lot of uniform change over the years, though. Their look is not as untouched as it feels. As for the laces, the shield has to be right there at the collar, and you can’t really put it under the laces, so your hands are kind of tied. :-) I do like the look of the more modern versions. They look more purposeful in this context than the dangly string classic version. It’s not efficient to do a custom build like the Avs or Flyers for each jersey. That’s why it’s modular like that.
  3. Probably because everything’s been getting leaked through catalog images for the past 5 years... :-P
  4. I’m just not a fan of this new Cavaliers identity. There is so much rich ephemera in the city that there’s really no excuse for type that lacks personality, yet they keep doing it. Say what you will about the current lettering, though, it may be a free font and it may be boring, but it’s more polished than these clunkers. Even competent kerning would have gone a long way toward improving the new one. The logo suite just looks very generic and stock in every way.
  5. That’s ridiculous. Obviously brands find it beneficial to outfit leagues or they wouldn’t do it. That doesn’t mean it’s an easy or simple process to transition from one to another, even when the same design and manufacturing teams are doing the work. And no, apparel design can’t be done “within minutes” even if there are no changes to the visual. It involves much more than just dropping logos into an Illustrator file. There’s a brief from the team, followed by visual design of the uniform, approval of a digital mockup, design and assembly of all the trims and specifications for the factory, having a prototype made (both on-ice and retail), reviewing the prototypes, sending the prototypes to the team for approval, making any changes requested by the team, obtaining final approval, then finally, because it’s all about the money, having the product manufactured en masse. It might not take a year, but it does take a few months, even for a team with no changes, and every step passes through the design team. Given how complex the process is, obviously it’s not realistic to expect to tackle every team at once. Let’s say (generously) that you were able to do it in 6 waves of 5 teams. Assuming they were all straight conversions to a new uniform and there were no changes after prototyping, you would already looking at a year, and that doesn’t include the initial design of the uniform system or any of the mass manufacturing that has to happen.
  6. Well, obviously you have it all figured out, because doing 3-6 times more work than normal couldn’t possibly present a physical, mental, or logistical limitation...
  7. You guys and your conspiracy theories. :-) 2014, 2015, 2016: 10-12 new uniforms are designed, prototyped, and manufactured (between new identities, new third jerseys, Winter/Heritage Classic, Stadium Series, and All-Star). 2017: 62 new uniforms are designed, prototyped, and manufactured, just for standard home and road use. Add another 8-10 for the events. 2018: 20-30 third jerseys are designed, prototyped, and manufactured, plus 8-10 more for the events. 2019: 10-12 new uniforms are designed, prototyped, and manufactured. Everything returns to normal and the designers can breathe.
  8. Much better at a glance. This years logo has some wild executional flaws that can’t be unseen, such as the lines of type being skewed at different angles and the circular negative space in the 5 having a clumsy bump in it.
  9. What I really notice is that the outline on the logo looks fine when the logo is large in scale, by itself, but when you see it in a photo or from any distance (the prime viewing platforms), the outline just makes the edges of the logo look fuzzy or blurry compared to everything else. It’s true that it “matches” the stripes in that it has two outlines, but the difference in scale of the outlines on the logo vs. the stripes ruins any semblance of harmony there. The funny thing is, people usually justify adding outlines by saying that it makes the logo/number/graphic “pop.” Sometimes, it’s true, but often, it’s the opposite, especially when working at a small relative scale. A solid blue lion with no outlines would have looked so much more bold and crisp here. I do as well. The numbers are unique and well done, and they feel to me like they’ll age well. The wordmarks, on the other hand, are a different story; one of the clumsiest-looking pieces of type in professional sports. It does have that illusion. I think it would have been even better to use a chrome trim on the numbers to coordinate with that face mask. The darker grey color doesn’t really show up anywhere else.
  10. Is it that much less, though? The face mask juts out an inch more, but the SpeedFlex has a similarly shaped top bracket. The Vicis itself also looks larger, and it has more smooth, uninterrupted area for a decal because it lacks the vents that other models have taking up real estate in that area. Thanks for pointing out the shell difference, though. I think that could either be good or bad for decals. Maybe someone with knowledge in those types of physics would be able to better evaluate. I know the Dodgers changed their batting helmet decal from a hard plastic to a softer material to address breakage issues.
  11. Subjectively, I’m not going to change your mind, and I think your point of view is right on, if their goal with their pride uniform was mass appeal and recognition on a national level, but objectively, that’s not the case. The fact is that native Portlanders and fans of the team have the complete opposite viewpoint on the issue, which objectively hampers your assessment of the situation given the goal of it and the context in which it exists.
  12. I’ve seen the videos. I’m just not convinced it will be much different than it is now. They didn’t invent a new plastic with different flex properties. They just changed the way it absorbs, deflects, and transfers impact. It would be a different story if the decals were completely rigid. That’s why they break more in cold weather.
  13. The problem is that the aesthetic flow is interrupted when you orient it like a P. The directionality of the lines competes with the manner in which they’re chopped. My favorite is the 1990s logo. It’s the cleanest of the bunch, and I like the versatility of not having the outline, allowing it to be colored appropriately depending on its background. Typographically, there’s a lot to like about their original set, though it’s very 1970s in its style, but I really like the solid one-color version of the previous wordmark, save for the spikes on the O, S, and other round letters. The spikes on the new lettering look a bit forced.
  14. Personally, I think that’s what makes it more authentic and compelling. Rose City feels more mainstream market, like Motor City or Windy City, both of which are names that outsiders use, but are very polarizing to locals. Rose City is also in heavy use with the city’s other teams, which dilutes its potential value to the Blazers. Rip City, on the other hand, is unique, will never be adopted by anyone else, and is heavily supported by the target: locals and Blazers fans. “Widely known” is not an objective here.
  15. I don’t know. All plastic shells bend on impact, and decals are usually vinyl, which is inherently somewhat flexible as well. It’s not like the shell itself is separating into multiple independent pieces like that new Schutt helmet or even the SpeedFlex.