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  1. NBA Changes 2017-18

    My guess is because at this moment, it looks more like it belongs in either the 76ers’ or Wizards’ identity.
  2. Do You Remember Champion Athletic?

    They have a supremely popular line at Target, and they’ve become an unexpected success in the high-end sporswear realm as well, collaborating with several solid designers and niche stores.
  3. NHL 2017-18

    I wouldn't say they can *only* be complex under those conditions, but it takes a deft hand and a commitment to a certain aesthetic to pull off an overly complex logo. John didn't display the former very well, and the Sabres certainly don't subscribe to the right aesthetic to make it work like Chicago does (in my opinion, of course ). For the proper 1936 look, I would ditch the red outline, make the inner circle black, enlarge the head a little, and I'd probably even strip out the face paint and simplify the patterning inside the feathers (and, of course, refine the lettering to look a little more humanistic and use solid black numerals inside the stripes). And yes, the more recent black alternates are the worst.
  4. NBA Changes 2017-18

    Valid point, but I think it still works, given that most of the documentation of the event are black and white photos.
  5. NHL 2017-18

    Six of one, half dozen of another. The issue is that it’s silly to just toss an anachronistic logo on a throwback jersey, plain and simple. If the logo is not going to be accurate, there should be some visible intent and care taken to make it work better in some context, for example, a current chief head, simplified and/or modified to look a bit more era-appropriate, but in the format of the mid-1930s roundel. Putting a 1948 mark on a 1936 jersey just makes absolutely zero sense here, no matter how much refinement is done. This is the last I’m going to say on the matter because it’s exhausting explaining a simple point over and over. I feel justified on a teenage girl sort of level considering I won the day yesterday and you got zero likes, so I’ll leave it at that. — If shrinking John’s logo for mobile was the only, or even the main concern with it, then I’d say you got me there. However, it’s not. As discussed, I, and others, are more concerned by its dated aesthetic, lack of clarity and confidence in its composition, and it’s reliance on added color and detail to carry it when it’s not at all necessary. Buffalo’s coin has never been a complex mark, at least not until they added the grey trim. Chicago, on the other hand, has always had a complex mark (yes, even the 1948 one), and it’s always worked for them even though it needs to be simplified for small embroidery applications and it requires several more colors on a screen-print press. They are, and should be, an exception.
  6. NBA Changes 2017-18

    And this would be exactly why they did it. To me, educating people about real, important events that shape culture and society is far more valuable than filling racks with cliché throwaways.
  7. College Football Uniforms - 2017 Season

    This. It doesn’t really make sense for a manufacturer to stock two very slightly different fabric or shell colors, so even if, for example, one school used 201 and the other used 202, they’d likely use the same fabric and shell colors. Personally, I think the best option would have been a blue helmet with a tapered gold stripe to mimic the marking on the top of the aircraft; the one time a tapered stripe would work perfectly!
  8. NBA Changes 2017-18

    I think it’s kinda the point to make people a little uncomfortable. I mean, they probably could have done a happy, cliché, Beale Street alternate and made a lot more money, but instead they had some courage and used it as an opportunity to educate and memorialize an important figure and event in civil rights during a time when civil rights are somehow becoming a polarizing issue once again. It foregoes the stereotypical side of Memphis for a less savory but certainly more important one.
  9. NHL 2017-18

    Imagine it from a designer’s perspective; year after year pumping a well that went dry ages ago!
  10. NHL 2017-18

    Reduce the amount of detail in the face and hair... so, in other words, make it more like the current mark? Phones and tablets have four times the resolution of most monitors, so yes, it would work fine. You could also just run the exact same simplification on the current mark’s feathers to arrive at a solution that has the feels like the right era, still fits with the team’s brand, avoids looking unintentionally anachronistic, etc. EDIT: I forgot about the lettering that looks too digital as well.
  11. NBA 2K E League Logo Unveil

    No one will ever win a trademark argument that their "skull with crossed things" logo is totally original and was ripped off by someone else. It's simply one of the most ubiquitous concepts and formats for a logo there is.
  12. NHL 2017-18

    Simpler!? It has one fewer feather, but twice as many wrinkles on the face and probably three or four times as many highlights in the hair and braid, not to mention the fact that it sill doesn't belong on that jersey and the hair detailing should be gold. But hey, no one cares, so "good enough" does not equal lazy in this case. "Doing actual work so that the team brand isn't a mess" is lazy.
  13. NHL 2017-18

    The logo they used doesn't use the tan color featured so prominently on the uniform, either. You know you can change colors with a couple clicks in Adobe Illustrator, right? So, lemme get this straight... updating a past logo using elements of the team's current identity (to be used on an updated past jersey that will be sold and merchandised alongside the team's current jersey for several years) is lazy, but slapping an inaccurately drawn and anachronistic logo on said jersey is diligent and prudent?
  14. NHL 2017-18

    That's my point. If it's not going to be accurate, then it should at least support the current brand or be better than the logo it's supposed to replicate. The throwback roundel they have on file for Chicago fits none of those criteria.
  15. NHL 2017-18

    That's a valid point. The logo on the 1936 throwback is actually not the correct one for that uniform, anyway. The original was quite a bit different and had a red face, which is presumably why they went with a 1948-ish logo for that Winter Classic (I say 1948-ish because the highlights in the hair and braid are colored incorrectly, just as they were when they wore that logo for NHL75). The 1936 uniform also had the pants reversed in color from what they wore in the Winter Classic, as well as the zigzag socks, and they didn't wear the three-color numbers until they went to the barberpole-style jerseys. All-in all, it's a bit of a mash-up. So, with the chest logo already being inaccurate, and the addition of an anachronistic mark to the shoulder (which works quite well againt the simplicity of the uniform and the complexity of the roundel), I think the best solution to use that as a third uniform would be to create a roundel logo using the current chief head.