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  1. That’s a single example of what the Devils’ logo *could* look like if the N and J were separate. A good designer should be able to put together several specimens that are better than that one. :-)
  2. That’s the concept. The execution is the quality of what is on the paper, and like I said, the proportions are clumsy and it’s very poorly drawn.
  3. I completely agree.
  4. Twill is a fabric, my friend. :-) More specifically, it's a specific type of weave used to construct a fabric, but generally speaking...
  5. I think their logo is certainly a hockey icon, but from a purely visual standpoint... it's a mess. The proportions and balance are really not great, and the execution of the forms is pretty clumsy.
  6. Back to NCFC, can anyone figure out why the star is not the proper proportion/shape, or why the outlines at the top are irregular? I’ve gone through all the design-related theoreticals in my head and come up with nothing.
  7. Yeah, didn’t AC have an old crest like that?
  8. The sign itself is owned by Young Electric Sign Company. The design, however, is public domain because the artist requested it so when she gifted it to the city.
  9. The Steelers’ and Lions’s striping is thicker than Iowa’s or Ohio State’s, but the point is well taken. They’d be wise to alter the size of it to make it fit better. Unfortunately, I don’t know if a chest logo is realistic for the NFL, given the location of the league logo, captain patch, and any special patches added to the uniform (memorial, Super Bowl, etc.).
  10. To be fair, a truly old school look includes much more color than white on the leg. Google 1920s NFL and most of the images show players with black high tops, a couple inches of white sanitary sock, then color all the rest of the way up the leg. As for the topic at hand, stirrups were once commonly used in football, in conjunction with white sanitary socks as shown. Nowadays, team issued socks are one piece with the top being the team design and the bottom being white. The only thing that matters in the eyes of the uniform inspectors is the visual, though, and there are countless ways players wear their socks. Many wear colored tights with white crew length socks. Some obtain what are basically leg warmers or footless socks (you may have even seen some players wear them on their forearms), and players may use these in conjunction with white crew socks as well.
  11. I mean, sure, those are concessions that sometimes have to be made when juggling inspiration from multiple sources, your own research, and the opinions of everyone involved. I’m just pointing out that because it resembles one thing doesn’t irrefutably mean that it isn’t another (especially when factoring in stylization), if only because of the way artistic influences originated, spread, and evolved over the centuries. Granted, the average person’s knowledge of armor is probably not advanced enough to make the distinction, but when you really look at it with the goal of determining the type of helmet, apart from color, this is more likely to be a barbute than a Greek helmet. I mean, It’s not an accident that it lacks some of the ornate decorative features that were common in Greek helmets but omitted from medieval designs.
  12. More accurately, it’s a barbute, a helmet style of Italian design that was inspired by earlier Greek helmets. Army’s logo is Athena’s helmet, which, obviously, is an authentic Greek design.
  13. Maybe you or your gf can clarify this, because I’m not clear on it and I’m sure others are not clear on it, either. When the USPTO examines this, are they examining the name itself against other entities, for example the Clarkson Golden Knights and the College of Saint Rose Golden Knights, or are they examining the visual depiction of the trademark? I ask because in the excerpts from the USPTO, I see the word “mark” used often, which to me is a visual term (but may not be in trademark law). The hierarchy of the words, the typeface, and the stylization thereof are also mentioned, which further leads me to believe that they are examining the visual depiction of the words (the word mark?) when making this ruling. If that’s the case, then it breaks down here, as the document states the following: In this case, the wording “GOLDEN KNIGHTS” is the dominant portion of both the registered and applied-for marks. In the registered mark, the wording “GOLDEN KNIGHTS” appears significantly larger than the subscripted additional text. Further, the “GOLDEN KNIGHTS” wording is centered in the mark, and appears in the more stylized and distinctive typeface as compared to the remaining wording.... The first assertion is very clearly not true. The College of Saint Rose’s mark does, in fact, say “Golden Knights” in large text with “College of Saint Rose” positioned underneath in a clear subordinate role, however, the Vegas mark does the opposite, placing “Vegas” in the dominant position while “Golden Knights” is relegated to the subordinate role via size, weight, and location. The document continues: In this case, the marks share the common wording “GOLDEN KNIGHTS,” and the additional wording does not change the overall commercial impression of the marks. The wording “THE COLLEGE OF SAINT ROSE” in the registrant’s mark is presented in such a manner that consumers encountering the mark are likely to read it as a tagline; consumers will focus on the wording “GOLDEN KNIGHTS.” Again, while it’s clear that the focus of the college’s mark is the “Golden Knights” wording, it’s just as clear that the focus of the NHL mark is “Vegas,” and using the examiner’s own logic, consumers encountering the mark are likely to read “Golden Knights” as a tagline, focusing instead on the “Vegas” lettering. Normally I can see both sides of a ruling like this, but the USPTO examiner seems to be contradicting the points he or she is making by pointing out characteristics that are unequivocally unique to each mark to illustrate that the marks are too similar.
  14. The PMS-metallic version is the best on-screen replication of the actual colors. It seems a lot of what's floating around is the CMYK version, which makes the gold look bronze and the grey look teal on screen. I have no idea what the CMYK version looks like when printed in the actual CMYK process, but ideally, the CMYK color mix would be best matched to the metallic, or the conversion created by PANTONE would be used. Either way, CMYK is never what you want to use for screen display as it is a print-specific color space.
  15. Here's a good look at what the colors are meant to look like. Not bronze, not teal. http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/vegas_golden_knights_apparel_01.jpg