andrewharrington

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    does the Colts' striping inconsistency bother you?

    They would wear the Jets’ template with the sleeve caps the same color as the body; the Jets’ Color Rush jersey in blue, essentially. Physically wrapping the stripes all the way around would be difficult because today’s tighter fits remove a lot of real estate from the jersey. You’d probably run the risk of having two-digit numbers nearly touch the stripes on either side, especially on smaller sizes. If you look at the image below and imagine the stripes continuing down, you can see how they’ll nearly clip the corners of the numbers. I actually don’t like the look of the full wrap-around. I think the way the stripe pinches under the arm looks kinda clumsy and cheap (just as the blocked off stripes do). I think tapering them into the seam as previously discussed is the most elegant technique because it gives the illusion of the full wrap (it sort of implies the stripe is pinching under and wrapping around), but in a much cleaner and more controlled design. Below is another interesting shot. I think you could feasibly achieve something similar to this by simply cutting the stripe insert into a wedge shape like USC’s shoulder panel. Either way, I think the secret to getting it looking good is finding a way to get that tapered end to the stripes rather than the straight blocked end.
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    Whatever happened to that "middle bar"-style facemask?

    My favorite new design is the Vicis one. It’s got a classic round shape, large smooth sides that are a great canvas for design, a simple raised center portion that’s perfectly formed to hold stripes, and vents that are all specifically placed to avoid interfering with the stripe and logo decals. It also tests better than the others.
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    does the Colts' striping inconsistency bother you?

    You’d just have to alter the base pattern a little. No big deal. Instead of running that seam directly into the armhole cuff (creating a sleeve cap), you’d want to run it all the way around and underneath the armhole cuff. Then you just angle the stripes right into it. If you want the number under the stripe, you may just have to scoot the seam in toward the neckline if the stripes are wider like the Colts.’
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    NFL changes 2019

    That does look really nice. I’d be on board with them removing the black from the helmet and essentially becoming more of a red and white team than a red and gold team. I do like the idea of keeping gold as a tiny accent in the stripe of an otherwise red and white look.
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    NFL changes 2019

    That does look really nice. I’d be on board with them removing the black from the helmet and essentially becoming more of a red and white team than a red and gold team. I do like the idea of keeping gold as a tiny accent in the stripe of an otherwise red and white look.
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    College Football Uniforms - 2019

    The basic form of the 2 is similar to the standard MLB numbers, but the pointed counters and thickness of the numbers depart from it. I actually like the Gators’ football numbers for the most part, though the trim on them is so small it may as well not even be there. Filling in the blue gap with orange would work better for me.
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    does the Colts' striping inconsistency bother you?

    This is the most common way that design has attempted to fix the visual shortcomings of blocked off stripes. It certainly works well when the players’ arms are at their sides, and while it is unquestionably better, to me it just scoots the problem down a little lower. I’d even argue that the conglomeration of seams and panels under the arm is not only just as ugly, but probably not very comfortable, either. UCLA’s new stripes actually feel a little narrow to me as well, and I’ll take it to the grave that this jersey would look better if the stripes were wedged and tapered into the shoulder seam like Johnny’s.
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    does the Colts' striping inconsistency bother you?

    They are. I think it’s serviceable because the full stripe design takes up a larger amount of space and we’re used to seeing it done that way for decades now. No one’s ever done a blocked off single stripe (to my knowledge), so it looks odd to see it that way. Both patterns, though, I think look better wedged into the shoulder seam, as demonstrated by Houston and that old pic of Johnny U.
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    New York Jets are confirmed to be getting new uniforms in 2019

    It’s interesting. It doesn’t look anything like the NFL100 logo we’ve seen, but it definitely wouldn’t surprise me to see a special iteration of the league branding on the collar. I don’t see the NFL100 logo working great on the collar, so maybe there’s an alternate shield-based application for the uniform. Likewise, the design of this feels very in tune with what’s been happening in the NFL (even though I don’t think it’s the ideal result). The logo is simply not working, and I don’t like the numbers, but it looks well done enough to be legit. The only thing I’d question is the fact that there’s no dimension to the applications, but this is also an image of a replica (which often have Photoshopped numbers and such), so I don’t think you can read into that part too much. Long story short, if this is fake, well done all around to the creator (not necessarily on the design itself, but on making it look like it might be real in both content and execution).
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    does the Colts' striping inconsistency bother you?

    I think the issue is that it’s just blocked off at the end. The Texans’ design is wedged into the shoulder seam, which looks more elegant and purposefully designed. Personally, I think all shoulder designs should be done that way. Running the stripes into the seam at a slight angle is the best way to replicate the proper look of a shoulder stripe being gathered under the arm: Here’s that exact technique modeled perfectly on Johnny himself. Perfect balance of truncating the stripe while maintaining the illusion that it wraps all the way around when the arms are down or up. It’s a much better solution than blocking the stripes off at the bottom. Thats a great look as well. I think they could still get by and maintain a lot of design continuity by going with a solid white C (something they’ve done in the past), keeping the current sleeve stripes on both sets, and combining those with the solid-colored numbers that you’ve shown here. Either way, though, people be flippin’ out.
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    New York Jets are confirmed to be getting new uniforms in 2019

    There’s definitely nothing concrete or factual to learn from the video, but I definitely think they are setting someone up to be surprised. Whether that’s the people who already think they know the new helmet will be green or whether it’s the people who don’t pay much attention and will be surprised if the helmet isn’t white, well, that remains to be seen. Marketers are smart, and they don’t create and release content without a strategic goal in mind. With that said, I’d be surprised is this was designed so that people have to pick apart the minutiae of the reconditioning process in order to figure out what’s going on. Personally, I think it’s a lot simpler than that. Occam’s razor, if you will. As WavePunter noted, I’d guess they set it up to look like the helmets are going out for routine reconditioning and the tagging is there so that the manufacturers can rebuild the helmets to spec with the new shells and masks. I’d guess the helmets in the video without tags just haven’t been tagged yet.
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    Goodbye Baby Cakes: New Wichita team seeking name ideas

    Thanks for the rundown. Very informative. I think I heard about the crown and “king for the day” custom from a college friend. Maybe it was his family tradition or something. Most of the documentation I can find on the subject of finding the baby, however, does paint it in a positive light, the only negative aspect, as you said, is having to bring the next one. Additionally, I totally understand not being on board with the concept of national marketing for a regional team, but given that’s obviously the goal for teams that are branding themselves in this manner, I still contend that Baby Cakes works better in the pursuit of that goal. It piques the curiosity of outsiders who aren’t familiar with the king cake tradition, which is a good move when trying to increase the reach of your brand. For better or worse, it engages (some) people to think, “What a silly name. I gotta check this out.” Then, before you know it, it’s, “OMG their logo is an angry king baby breaking out of a pastry! How outrageous! Take my money.”
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    NFL changes 2019

    It’s standard in the sense that it’s a plain athletic block style, but theirs and Oakland’s always stood out to me as being a little more narrow/condensed than other teams who use a basic block letter.
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    New York Jets are confirmed to be getting new uniforms in 2019

    That’s the real nugget here. All this reconditioning/do they/would they paint the shells, etc. talk is far too technical to be part of an unveiling narrative. My guess is one of these two things is happening: 1. The source images/descriptions that the leakers have seen/heard have been planted to mislead them and keep them off the scent, and the helmets will return, still white, but with new stripes and/or logos. 2. These tweets are designed to mislead the general fanbase into thinking that the helmet is staying white, setting them up to be blindsided by a green helmet or something. If I had to put money on it, I’d guess number two, but at some point a brand or team is going to pull something to try and make leakers look like fools. It’s only a matter of time.
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    New York Jets are confirmed to be getting new uniforms in 2019

    It’s also pulled directly from the Winnipeg Jets’ logo with no credit given, for what that’s worth.
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    NFL changes 2019

    This is true, but I also think if you’re evaluating something like that, considering those subjective factors is part of the process. So, you have to ask yourself, what does the black in the Chiefs’ logo accomplish in terms of design, and what does it mean in the context of history? Black doesn’t do much for the design, in my opinion. It makes the small monogram look a bit muddy, and removing black from the arrowhead (or switching it out to gold) doesn’t present any contrast issues. I also think black makes the logo a bit drab compared to gold. Red and gold is beautifully vibrant and surprisingly unique in sports. Show it off on your important pieces. I’ve been wrong before, but I honestly don’t think the fanbase would mind bringing gold into the helmet, either. I bet a lot of people don’t even notice the black, let alone have an attachment to it. The historical argument is stronger, but I don’t see the Chiefs history on the same level as that of the Steelers or Yankees, for example. They had a great first decade (three AFL championships, one of which came in Dallas with a logo that featured gold, but not black , plus the Super Bowl win after the 1969 season), followed by a couple forgettable decades and a couple decades defined mostly by the underachievement of several really good teams. If you ask me, the 49ers have a much better case to keep black in the logo for tradition’s sake, and while I think that mark would be better without black, I find their situation less egregious because their helmet has never abandoned either of the main red and metallic gold colors. Long story short, black in the Chiefs’ logo is a net negative for me, even when considering the historical context.
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    Goodbye Baby Cakes: New Wichita team seeking name ideas

    There are some good discussion topics here: Being able to travel to do research is a luxury, and you often pay for that out of your own pocket. If you’re taking research trips, it means you’re taking your job seriously, literally spending your own money in order to do a better job. And yes, you can learn a lot in two days. If you’re committed to naming your team after a religious pastry, why does the team need to be exactly the name of the actual thing? Why not use some creative license to make the name a little catchier? I’d argue that Baby Cakes is a better sounding name than King Cakes (which is a bit clunky), and debate the nationwide marketing approach if you’d like, but given that approach, I’d say Baby Cakes is the better name. It’s simply more recognizable and familiar to people as a fringe-level term of endearment, meaning it’s inclusively marketing those who don’t know what a king cake is (which is probably a lot of people outside the Gulf Coast region). If you do know what a king cake is, I think it’s pretty easy to draw the line from Baby Cakes to, “Oh! They’re talking about a king cake.” I mean they’re called crawfish, but you could probably figure out what I was talking about if I said mud bug or swamp lobster. Lastly, I’ve always gotten the impression that it’s good luck to find the baby. You get the crown and you’re “king for the day” or whatever. Sure, you’re chosen to supply the next cake, but I’ve never met someone from the south who *didn’t* want to cook for you or host a party. Ive even seen people with collections of various cake figurines, so I’d say “sought after” accurately describes the cake babies in some circles.
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    NFL changes 2019

    In that case, you’d just reverse it to a red arrowhead with a white monogram. The arrowhead logo doesn’t rely on a specific dark/light relationship to work, which is what makes it a good, versatile mark. Truth be told, I think that would be much better than how they currently handle their logo across different background colors. The logo appears a bit blah on white because it’s 90% white, and they curiously add a white keyline to the arrowhead for dark backgrounds, which are not functionally needed on black or gold, and makes the red background variant different than what’s on their helmet.
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    NFL changes 2019

    Of course. It’s completely senseless to stick with it when the center example you posted looks every bit as good (and would coordinate fantastically with the typography in their uniform). Tradition or not, it makes little sense to omit one of your main team colors in favor of a non-team color in your most important branding tools. Black has more contrast against white, but less contrast against red, so that’s literally six of one, half dozen of another when compared to gold (sorry, Brandon :-). I also love the look of 60s-era Chiefs garb, which often featured more gold. This one is interesting, as well.
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    does the Colts' striping inconsistency bother you?

    I think this works on the Bears’ home set because the scale and pattern of the stripe designs are different enough to be distinct from one another. Chicago’s uniform is chaos if you look at the individual elements, but each unique stripe or trim combination has something else to coordinates with. As a result, it really works when you put it all together. Names/numbers/GSH are white with orange trim, Logo and sleeve/sock stripes are orange with white trim (in the same scale), and the thick pant stripe works well with the blue helmet, jersey and socks. Adding white to the pants stripe, while it would “match” the sleeves, would create a new problem (two of the same pattern in different scales rarely look right together) and personally, I think it would look too matchy. The road uniform, however, is a tougher thing to put together. The sleeve and sock stripes throw a wrench into things because they’re not handled the way you’d expect (based on the design of the home jersey). The main issue for me is the pant stripe. I think it carries a little too much orange to coordinate with the rest of the other elements. It also lacks the contrast of the sleeve and sock stripes (the orange kinda blends into the blue when they touch), and it’s too thick to coordinate with the delicate numbers and helmet logo. Flipping the orange and white solves those problems pretty well, though, as the orange stripe flanked by white on the blue pants works with the sleeve and sock stripes in both color/pattern and scale. The helmet logo is kinda off on its own in the context of the road uniform, but I still think it looks okay. From a design perspective, the only thing you could do to get it all perfectly unified would be to go back to a single color C and numbers, but I don’t think that would be the most popular thing to do (plus, that orange trim on the numbers and letters looks so great). To each his or her own on the grey masks. That debate will never end. Team color is great (and it looks fine), but it can be a bit overwhelming to have a blue mask, a blue mouth guard, a blue undershirt, blue gloves, and blue shoes. Give me one or two blue accessories, but I like having some neutrals in the mix, too. It looks mature, tough, and professional. I do think team color equipment works from a design perspective, but I prefer when it blends into the uniform (like Michigan, for example) as opposed to standing out. I think we have some commonality on the matching stripes, though. To me, it just doesn’t feel very interesting when they’re all exactly the same, and it looks wacky when they’re sorta the same but not, like the Chiefs’ sleeve and sock stripes. A good example for me is the 49ers. I prefer the old triple stripe design (excluding the overthought angled stripe business) over the new double stripe design. The smaller scale of the triple stripes set them apart from the helmet and pant stripes, creating a bit of interest and hierarchy in the uniform. The double stripes look kind of lifeless by comparison.
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    does the Colts' striping inconsistency bother you?

    Ah yes, forgot about those. Still, I’d be shocked if they ever wore them separate from the full Color Rush getup.
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    College Football Uniforms - 2019

    No purple pants?! That’s crazy. Gold is fine (and should always be the color of the home pants), but purple pants are *the* Washington road look, and I think the best Husky teams of all time would agree.
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    Philadelphia Phillies Retro Cap Returns as Alternate in 2019

    Yeah, it looks like the shop tried to hand-cut Helvetica to create them, and they got something that looks like it, but retains much of the human hand in it. It was that weird era in which photo lettering had changed the way type layout was done, but digital cutters and plotters weren’t widely used yet, so there are a lot of 1970s uniforms that are “geometric” designs, but they’re very loose and imperfect because they still had to cut them by hand much of the time. Seems like the repros that that they’ve worn more recently just use a common digital version of Helvetica.
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    Philadelphia Phillies Retro Cap Returns as Alternate in 2019

    Helvetica?
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    does the Colts' striping inconsistency bother you?

    It just works for them, and I quite like it. The neutral color gives your eyes a little rest (as opposed to the common technique of cramming color into every spot you can fit it), and it actually allows the team colors to stand out more, in my opinion. With that said, if the Colts were to go contemporary with their uniform again, I think I’d rather see a white mask than a blue one, especially now that they’re going to be carrying the torch as the league’s only “single color plus white” team. The sheer volume of white is signature to them (kinda like Texas), particularly on the road uniform and coupled with the fact that they don’t carry a set of alternate pants.