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  1. BlueSky

    Finally Splurged on a Replica '67 Saints Jersey

    Great find, thanks for posting this pic. That happens to be the next retro replica I plan to have made if Harv at Tailgating Jerseys can find the lighter, shinier gold the Saints switched to in 1969. This was the jersey they were wearing the first time I saw them play, at Tulane Stadium vs. the Steelers on December 21, 1969. They didn't have the NFL 50 patches sewn on yet when preseason PR shots like the one above were done but were wearing them later (this pic is from a 43-38 win over the 49ers on Nov. 23) so it will have one on the left sleeve. Some players cut their sleeves down, most notably the WRs and TEs. It would be awesome if they wore the same design in 2019 with '100' replacing '50,' but I have a tough time believing the NFL or Nike would be satisfied with a simple, elegant design that would be a fantastic homage to the league's history. The patch:
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    Finally Splurged on a Replica '67 Saints Jersey

    My white '67 isn't lonely anymore. Went full old school with long sleeves on this one. It's hard to find good color shots of the black '67s but it seems to compare pretty favorably in terms of the gold.
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    NFL 2018 changes

    It's pretty sweet. I'd change the face masks and use the original "D" logo on the helmet. Just like it better than the crazy-looking detached horse head.
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    New Orleans Saints - A Uniform Odyssey

    Okay, on to the big game sequence. In the movie, it's the season opener vs. Dallas at Tulane Stadium. In reality, some of the shots are from the November 3, 1968 game against the Cowboys while others are staged. Turns out there's a very obvious way to tell between the two - see if you can spot it. Starting with some lagniappe for any readers from New Orleans - a couple of the bus cruising down Airline Highway on the way to the stadium, one with a Coke billboard that actually looks more mid-'70s to me than 1969: I drove Airline Highway and passed that Town & Country sign a million times going to/from work at the airport. A few of the players walking out for warmups: More on these hedges in a minute. Pregame pageantry: Something nobody does anymore - the "cue guy" signaling the rest of the kickoff team when to start their sprints: I believe that's Gene Howard, who wore #29, downing the kick. John Gilliam, #42, did this the first time the Saints ever touched the ball in a regular season game. Note mismatched pants stripes (again) and the nearby hedges, notorious for swallowing many a receiver whose efforts carried them out of the end zone. Real players: Fake players: More later...
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    New Orleans Saints - A Uniform Odyssey

    More screenshots from the movie. These are from practices. The really wide white number outlines on the black jerseys. Tom Barrington on a sweep, which I included because... ...it looks almost exactly like this shot from a real 1969 practice scrimmage with the Chargers (black helmets make it '69): The Saints' rather Spartan facilities of that time. Nice contrast of another inconsistency, the sleeve stripes on the black (equal width) and white (black is slightly narrower than gold) jerseys. Coach in awesome team jacket addressing the "team," oddly only about 30 guys. I guess extras and more unis weren't in the budget. No Saints wore #s 3 or 41 until 1971, so those jerseys may have been made for the movie. There may be other numbers like that but those two jumped out at me. Next up will be the best of the bunch - the game shots.
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    New Orleans Saints - A Uniform Odyssey

    There are a lot of locker room scenes too. The Roger Moore (Google him, young 'uns) doppelgänger in the jacket, making a cameo playing the third-string QB? That's Saints owner John Mecom, Jr., who was in his mid-20s when he became the team's first owner in 1966 (he was 29 in this photo). Note the player has the reversed pants stripes. The pants and helmet stripes are an ongoing and glaring inconsistency in the film. A very, very glaring inconsistency - crazy mix of helmet and pants stripes here: Rams WR Cooper Kupp's grandfather is long-time Saints guard Jake Kupp (#50). He was a Pro Bowl O-lineman - at 250 lbs. The awesome socks are a bonus. ;-) An average high school locker room in 2018 puts the bare-bones Tulane Stadium facilities to shame. I'd kill for that bin full of jerseys. Recognize the guy on the left? How about now? Who knew Junior played for the Saints? I want the coach's jacket! Cat has flashbacks to when the Saints won the Super Bowl (right - the same team that wouldn't have a winning season until almost 20 years after the film's release). Presumably that's supposed to be champagne they're covered with but it looks more like shaving cream in the film. Here's DB Dave Whitsell, wearing the jersey my recently acquired replica represents, going teammate surfing in the wild and crazy SB winning locker room. Think on this a minute - Whitsell came to the Saints "washed up" at 31 in 1967. He was left unprotected by the Bears in the expansion draft. He must have been p***ed because he intercepted 10 passes, a team record that still stands, and remember they played a 14-game season back then. He became the Saints' first Pro Bowler that season. Wait, it is shaving cream. Look in the player's hand at lower right. More to come.
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    New Orleans Saints - A Uniform Odyssey

    Not sure if this is really a digression since it fits the topic. Anyway, some of you may have heard of the 1969 movie Number One in which Charlton Heston plays Saints QB Ron "Cat" Catlan. Cat is essentially that era's Brett Favre - the aging gunslinger who can't call it quits. It's now available on DVD (and Amazon video too) and I recently bought a copy. There are the typical and forgettable melodramatic elements but the film is absolutely golden for uni geeks like us and anyone interested in the NFL of the late '60s, especially the Saints. It's no exaggeration to say I felt as if I had ridden a time machine back to Tulane Stadium at the time I attended my first game as a wide-eyed 8-year-old. Before getting to some uniform-oriented screenshots, most of you have probably seen the Saints version of the iconic mid-'60s Dave Boss paintings/prints he did for each NFL team. I think they were created in '66 or early '67, at least the Saints edition because the uni on it is so different from what they ended up wearing. More on that in a moment. Here's a movie shot of the Saints' GM's office with the poster on the wall. Nothing unusual there (hey, I have one framed on my office wall too!). What caught my eye is that in a later scene at Catlan's house, it's clearly the same base poster but it's been modified to show the player with Catlan's number 17. Looking closely, they may even have changed tthe face time more resemble Heston. Sorry for the narrow shot, it was way at the edge of the movie frame. While we're on the Boss poster, I decided to compare the poster to the uniforms that actually saw the field in 1967. I should have added that the helmet gold is different too. The face mask is especially surprising. As I mentioned, I have the poster and it definitely looks white (compare it to the sleeve stripes). Interesting since masks were almost universally gray back then. There's a lot of stuff in the game shots that seems so quaint now, like this from Tulane Stadium where they haven't just painted the end zones in the opponent's colors - they even have Cowboys goalpost pads! It appears some scenes for the climactic game sequence were filmed at the Saints-Cowboys game on November 3, 1968. This shot looks to be from just after the Saints' only score that day, a FG (note the Saints cheerleader in mid-cartwheel so it wasn't a Cowboys score). More to come...
  8. BlueSky

    Finally Splurged on a Replica '67 Saints Jersey

    I appreciate your point but that’s his business, not mine. That’s not meant to sound dismissive, I just don’t think it’s a customer’s place. I talked about my other jersey here, on FB, & Twitter with @Saints & so on plus references to his site so it’s not like anyone is keeping a secret. I’m quite certain the NFL’s army of lawyers will do their thing if there’s an issue.
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    Finally Splurged on a Replica '67 Saints Jersey

    Update - the vendor is having an issue finding the right gold for the '69 version the Saints wore. No problem - I decided to get a black '67 in the meantime! Worked with them to get the numbers closer this time as the ones on my white jersey aren't quite a match to what they wore. I chose #22 this time. I like getting a number that resonates from then through today. Rookie RB Charlie Brown wore it in '67, Tracy Porter sealed the SB win wearing it and Mark Ingram carries on the tradition today. So here's Brown at left showing what I'm going for: They sent me a pic after they were cut but before being sewn on: Really looking forward to seeing the finished product!
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    2017 NFL Season: Then there were Two

    That, my friends, was a soul crushing loss. Yet former Saint Steve Gleason’s tweet after the game not only made me smile - his spirit is untouchable - it started turning the pain into perspective. Congratulations to the Vikings. I'm so in shock I can't move. -SG (For anyone unfamiliar with Steve, he has ALS and literally cannot move.) At 0-2, I thought we Saints fans were on the 7-9 express to nowhere yet again. Instead, we ended up one miraculous play away from going to the conference championship. This is a very young team and the sky is the limit. They’ll be back. Being a sports fan is remarkably masochistic when you think about it. Every year, 31 of 32 NFL fan bases end up disappointed. The only variable is when. Have to say that winning that Lombardi in 2009 also makes these moments much, much easier. It is a little weird though to think that Drew Brees is now a free agent.
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    NFL 2017 changes?

    Fair point, but what tips it for me is that their wordmark, imo, is among the best in the league. But if they took each of my other suggestions and left this one off, I’d still be beyond jazzed.
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    NFL 2017 changes?

    My easy 4-step plan for NO: 1) Match the helmet to the Color Rush shade of gold. 2) Add black jerseys w/same shade of gold + pants in gold & black w/Color Rush striping style. 3) Put the fantastic Saints wordmark on helmet bumpers & jersey front. 4) Enjoy being the NFL's best looking team.
  13. The numbers the Saints used on their '67-'68 jerseys appears to be fairly unique, especially the gold with wide white borders used on the black jerseys. I've looked at a lot of fonts on various sites trying to put a name to it. Finally Frankensteined together a pic to show each number in the hopes someone can help. If it helps, the jersey manufacturer was Southland Athletic. Looks close to block, but taller and narrower maybe?
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    Finally Splurged on a Replica '67 Saints Jersey

    Here's the one the company sent me when it was finished. I goofed and ordered a size too big, and as noted previously, the shape of the numbers and the outlines aren't quite right, but I've accepted that no one other than me and CCSLC members will notice or care so I'm very happy with it. I've looked at a LOT of number fonts without finding an exact match to their '67-'68 numbers. It's block, but elongated, more narrow and tall that standard block. Back numbers on on mine are closer. Colors are a better match than it appears in this comparison, I think because of the light in the company pic. My '67 jersey Real '67 jersey
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    New Orleans Saints - A Uniform Odyssey

    Missed this fantastic and truly remarkable pic in my original posts. Talk about serendipity. Along with those gorgeous uniforms, we have; Saints legend Danny Abramowicz, then a rookie; QB Gary Cuozzo, looking shell-shocked, hardly a surprise in those days of Saints ineptitude; Packers legends Paul Hornung (sporting a Sir Saint polo and cleats!) and Jim Taylor, both of whom signed in New Orleans, though Hornung never played due to a neck injury that forced his retirement; Taylor's helmet with the weirdly "early" w/b/w stripes (see first post on previous page) while Abramowicz and Cuozzo have the standard '67 b/w/b; and John Gilliam, who famously ran back the opening kickoff of the Saints' first regular season game for a TD. And finally, New Orleans music legend Al Hirt, in the background with his trumpet!