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  1. Cleveland Browns re-do in the works for 2020?

    It sure as hell beats this one that they apparently almost had decades ago. https://www.clevescene.com/64-and-counting/archives/2010/02/09/the-hunt-for-the-great-orange-brown-and-white-whale-unraveling-the-mystery-of-the-1965-cb-cleveland-browns-helmet-logo This logo always struck me as an "Oh, damn! Is that due tomorrow?!?!" job.
  2. Los Angeles Chargers Brand Discussion

    I assume this sort of thing happens all the time in the romance books with Fabio on the cover. The second couple is just discreet about it.
  3. Cleveland Browns re-do in the works for 2020?

    None taken. I would have a different opinion if another team introduced a similar logo. However, as noted before, the Browns' calling card has generally been a basic, no nonsense image, right down to the helmet. I think the logo could be tweaked to make it better (starting by changing the letter to a C), but I also believe it works for the Browns. Consideration should also be given to the fact that the team name doesn't lend itself to a logo representing the nickname other than the elf.* The bulldog refers to the fans, not the team, so I believe it would be a mistake to build around that image. * -- My personal first choice, for the record.
  4. Cleveland Browns re-do in the works for 2020?

    What he said. I would describe it as simple and effective for its intended use. I wouldn't call it bright, but that's because it's hard to make something too bright using brown and orange unless you really want to downplay the brown.
  5. Cleveland Browns re-do in the works for 2020?

    I'm pretty sure "boring" is an opinion. Just sayin.'
  6. NFL 2017 changes?

    Apparently the climate in Atlanta causes all structures to age twice as fast as in the rest of the country.
  7. Cleveland Browns re-do in the works for 2020?

    I think the simplicity of the B-Football (or a hypothetical C-Football) is part of what makes it work for the Browns. The team's image, for the most part, is all about being simple and going back to the basics . . . right down to the iconic, untouchable blank helmet. Let's go back to 1961 when the Packers logo was introduced, in which case the bolded and deleted text doesn't apply. You just described the Packers G-Oval. Would you feel the same way about that logo if it was stripped of its historical context? I'm genuinely curious . . . not trying to attack you.
  8. College Football Uniforms - 2017 Season

    I know it was gold, as was the center helmet stripe. 5-14 year old me didn't really make the black and gold connection because Maryland was so predominantly red and white at the time. As a result, I never looked closely enough to realize that it wasn't a faded red. In my defense, TVs were a lot smaller then and newspapers were in black and white. Also, as Exhibit A, I offer the Randy White picture that I posted above, which makes it look much more like a faded red. Also 1969, when the mascot was apparently the red M&M.
  9. College Football Uniforms - 2017 Season

    OK. I guess I shouldn't mention that Notre Dame also wore NOBs then in non-bowl games.
  10. College Football Uniforms - 2017 Season

    I remembered the black from later in the 80s. I didn't think Boomer wore them. I also like the red better. Notre Dame were the same template during the Gerry Faust era.
  11. College Football Uniforms - 2017 Season

    Black jerseys? Unless I'm forgetting something . . .
  12. College Football Uniforms - 2017 Season

    I was a kid in the Randy White era. I always thought the helmet M was just a sort of faded red. There are other prints of that shot that back me up. I agree that Maryland is most associated with red and white. However, I have no problem with a black and gold throwback since there is actually history behind it and the team has tended to use the black and gold in some capacity most of the time. The basketball team even wore a black, gold and white uniform a few times in the '80s (albeit with red and white shoes).
  13. College Football Uniforms - 2017 Season

    For those wondering about the Maryland color change . . . http://www.umterps.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=29700&ATCLID=210057293 https://umdarchives.wordpress.com/2014/03/27/red-and-white-a-new-maryland-tradition/
  14. College Football Uniforms - 2017 Season

    I'd never really thought about that. However, since Maryland regularly wore black and gold until the 1940s, I don't have any problem with this. Remember, Maryland is Red, White, Black and Gold, like the flag . . . not just Red and White. There are few discrepancies, as someone noted above. However, this version stays fairly true to the original. Also, Black and Gold in that combo of helmet, jerseys and pants, isn't Steelers . . . it's Ampipe Bulldogs.
  15. Cleveland Browns re-do in the works for 2020?