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  1. pmoehrin

    Football and CTE

    Well "I'm afraid of losing my coaching job" and "I don't know what I would do on Friday nights/Saturday/Sunday afternoons" come off as pretty selfish arguments, so those flimsy rationales and assumptions are all you have left. The only pro youth football argument I've ever heard that I can somewhat get behind is concerning inner city programs. If kids weren't participating in these programs, they would be hanging out on the corner looking for something to do. And this sentiment has been echoed by many players who came from this environment. They don't HAVE to play football, but I know there's a lot of areas especially down South, where football has sucked all the oxygen (funding) out of the room for anything else. You don't have much choice. Its either hit the gridiron or join a gang and it's why these areas are going to be the last ones to get rid of it. It's not enough to just say no more football. You need to go after the system AND replace it with something else. As for Hilkinski, it's dishearting and depressing, but I can't say I'm surprised by it either. I hope that people key in on the word FACTOR to mean precisely what it means. It played a part in his decision. That does not say it was the be all end all, nor does it mean side point you can go ahead and ignore. His suicide could have been a long-time coming, something he only decided to do in the last 10 minutes of his life, or something in-between. We'll never know and its what makes this issue so complicated and frustrating to explore. There's just so much of a person's motivations you can infer based on their words and actions.
  2. pmoehrin

    2018 NBA "Off"Season-Because It's Always On

    With regards to Bryan Colangelo. First of all, hats off to The Ringer on putting together one of the best pieces of sports journalism ever written. The article is extremely lengthy, but it's well worth it just to gloss over it. Its one of if not the best piece of investigative journalism related to sports I've ever seen. As for Colangelo himself, I am just floored by why someone in such a position would even do such a thing. You're the GM of an NBA team. People are supposed to react to the things you say and do. Not the other way around. I've gone through a few Tweets of the alleged burner accounts, and most of them come off as intelligent with valid criticisms and critiques, which leads me to believe it likely is Colangelo sending them out. At the very least it's not someone calling into a radio show to talk terrible trade ideas who is Tweeting on these accounts. Whoever is running these accounts knows basketball inside and out. NBA GM's know basketball inside and out and as the article mentioned some of these Tweets might be a little too on point as in there is no way an average fan could even be aware or know some of the things mentioned. If its true, I would have to think that's it for Bryan Colangelo's GM career with the 76ers or anyone else for that matter. If I'm an agent, he's the last GM I'd want to sit down with, because how do I know the private conversations we have aren't going to end up on Twitter? You could be the smartest guy in the room, but if nobody trusts you, it makes no difference. Nobody is going to want to work with or for you. I thought the Hinkie departure was weird, but that was standard procedure compared to this. This story is head scratching on so many levels, least of all why do it in the first place? Other than satisfaction for his ego, there was nothing to be gained from this. If Colangelo is fired (which I think will happen very soon if not by the end of the day) it will be the most bizarre reason to fire a GM I can ever recall in any major sport. For a team on LeBron's short list of potential destinations, this couldn't have come at a worse time.
  3. pmoehrin

    2018 MLB Season

    You’re right about it being Clark and not Calvin. My apologizes on the error there. As for the “shame” comment, ten years ago I would have agreed with this, but part of me wonders if we’re starting to go too far in the other direction. I think movements like MeToo have been positive things that have shined light on dark areas that people didn’t want to admit existsted. But America loves to overcorrect and I’ve never seen any cultural change that didn’t yield unintended consequences. I just know you judge anybody on the worse thing they’ve ever done and nobody is going to look good and I think that’s what’s happening to Tom Yawkey. I also know how my knowledge of the game compares to your average fan and I have a great amount of difficulty understanding what this person was really like and about mainly because he was so private. So when I hear someone call him a bigot with almost complete confidence, it makes me upset because I know they’re basing it on a shred of information that’s out there about him and that’s not fair. To say “well that’s how it goes sometimes” is to forgive laziness and ignorance. I mentioned I only know of one Tom Yawkey biography because I’ve spoken to the guy who wrote it on multiple occasions and even he is undecided on how history should view Tom Yawkey. My only real point is the information out there first before rushing to judgment on someone and I see almost zero effort on anyone’s part to do it. Twitter isn’t a good forum to have this conversation on and I didn’t think to write an article on it, although I may pitch it to the Hardball Times after I submit my next all-time team. But I do think it’s important for people to know about and I think it’s the rare baseball argument who’s implications extend to aspects of life that go beyond the game, which is why I felt to compelled to comment on it in this forum.
  4. pmoehrin

    2018 MLB Season

    I'll say this about Tom Yawkey because I think a lot of people are jumping to conclusions in saying things like "he was a garbage owner" without having any idea or context about what the hell they're talking about. It is understandable because there's not a whole lot of information regarding Tom Yawkey and the kind of person he was. He rarely spoke to the media, and as far as I know, there's only one biography written about him. Here's what is known about Yawkey. First of all, Yawkey was not a "garbage owner" by any definition. From the day he bought the team, Yawkey immediately started pouring money into the club and the ballpark itself. Without Tom Yawkey's extensive renovations in the 30's, Fenway would have been torn down decades ago. He brought in Hall of Famers Jimmie Foxx, Lefty Grove, and Joe Cronin and was never shy about paying for star players. The Red Sox were often criticized in the 50's for being too overpaid which made them "soft" and was frequently cited as a reason for why they couldn't get past the Yankees. You will be very hard pressed to find a single Red Sox player black or white who played under Tom Yawkey with anything negative to say about him. Yawkey was also known to frequent the Red Sox locker room which as is the case now is nearly unheard of for an owner to do. Most when they show up to practice will make it a point never to step on the field or even touch the equipment. The closest modern-day parallel I can draw to the kind of owner he was would be Mark Cuban. He was only 30 years old when he took over the team and as far as I can tell was like Cuban a giant fanboy. You could do a lot worse in terms of a boss. As far as his alleged racism goes, again I think it gets a lot murkier than people think. Is there any question that there were racists in the Red Sox front office who's behavior Yawkey excused? No. For as much money as the Red Sox spent there is no reason why they couldn't have had an outfield that consisted of Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, and Ted Williams. Jackie Robinson's tryout for the Red Sox in 1945 was a straight up embarrassment who's blame is in the end largely on Yawkey because he hired virtually everyone who was there. Robinson would say about Yawkey that he was the most bigoted owner in the game and it's very easy to see why he would have this view. However, there's no evidence the two ever even met. As far as most bigoted owner in baseball at the time, Calvin Griffith has that title hands down. There are many Senator meeting minutes where he is quoted as having dropped multiple N bombs, and he specifically moved to Minnesota because Washington D.C. was becoming too black for him. That's the most racist owner in baseball at the time, bar none. With Yawkey, it is true that the Red Sox were the last team in baseball to integrate, but they were also the team under the least amount of pressure. Think of the great Negro League teams and where they were from; Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Washington D.C., Chicago, New York, Detroit, Havana, Philadelphia, Indianapolis, Newark, Atlanta. But I can tell you one city that never comes up, Boston. And there's no nefarious reason for this regarding Boston holding back a negro league team from being developed. In 1940 the city's racial makeup was 97% white. The market for a Negro League team didn't exist. Also, consider the American League as a whole. Think of your black Hall of Famers from the 50's, 60's and early 70's. Aaron, Clemente, Mays, McCovey, Stargell, Banks, Frank Robinson. What do they all have in common? They all spent a significant portion of if not their entire careers in the National League. Was Yawkey a hardened racist or merely a guy who didn't want to rock the boat? To say there's not a difference between the two is silly. Fast forward to the 1960's, and you'll find that the Red Sox are second only to the White Sox in the American League with regards to aggressively signing black players. Their '67 squad featured Reggie Smith, George Scott, Elston Howard and Jose Tartabull. Again find a player with a bad thing to say about him. As for Jackie Robinson, his foundation was asked to speak on the issue and in response, they sent a letter highlighting the Yawkey foundation's charitable works which regularly donates millions of dollars in charity to inner city programs. But there was no mention made regarding whether or not they support keeping the name or getting rid of it and that's pretty much where I am at on this too. I think its a shame that we're having what I think is a very rushed conversation on this to pass judgment on a person without fully understanding him or how he acted in the context of his generation. By no means was this man a champion of Civil Rights, but I do wonder if that's becoming more and more the only people we feel like honoring. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, just an observation. By the same token though the decision to name the street after he was also a very rushed decision. The Red Sox stance seems to be merely taking the name off the street name but little if anything else. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of naming anything after anybody. I think its pretty pretentious to want to have your name on something as badly as the Yawkey foundation seems to want their name on things. At the same time its far from the most unforgivable sin. To be clear I'm not necessarily an advocate of keeping the name either, even though I sound a little defensive of Yawkey. I'm just trying to put the person in proper perspective which I wonder how many people are even able to do given what's out there about him compared to what's not.
  5. pmoehrin

    2017-18 NCAA Football Thread

    I do wonder about this a lot. Has bullying really gotten that much worse, or is it like police brutality where it really hasn't gotten any worse, we just know more now? Most families in 50's and 60's handled a suicide by simply not talking about it. If you acted up frequently, you were just labeled as a bad kid and that was that. Kids were meant to be spoken to, not listened to and unfortunately a lot of people still have mentality and approach to parenting. By the same token though they didn't have social media back then, and I agree 100% that social media has contributed to the problem more than it has helped it. That was not something anyone born before 1989 really had to deal with in school. No doubt its different, but worse is something I'm not sure about. A lot of it I think depends on the type of person you are and what you're prone to. Just speaking for myself my High School experience was far from great, but I wouldn't want to trade places with any kids growing up now, but that's just me. If I were an LGBT kid I'm sure I much rather be going to school now than 50 years ago. Just depends on your perspective. I want to be careful with what I mean by this, because its very easy to take what I am saying out of context. I'm not accusing you of doing that, but I could see this argument being lumped into these "kids just need to toughen up" aholes who neither understand nor care about the struggles of modern day youths. That would describe the views of 70% of my extended family and it was an issue for me when I was younger. Thankfully I'm at the point now where I can just tell anyone who thinks like this to just f-off, but man I feel bad for the kids who have only these voices to turn to that are going through these types of struggles. The f-off option was not one that was on the table for me as a kid, unless I wanted to be threaten with physical violence from a 60-year old man. But now said 60-year old man is in his 80's and let's just say said threat of violence didn't go as planned the last time around because its pretty difficult to physically intimate a fully grown man who's five inches taller than you and 50-years your junior. But I digress. That's not what I am saying at all. I know bullying can cause suicide happen because it happened near me. Its just that for every one of these "bullycide" incidents I guarantee you there's a least another five suicides that have little if anything to do with bullying, that beyond a quick blurb on the local news or an obituary never get mentioned. I can google Tyler Clementi and it goes straight to his Wikipedia page in addition to dozens of articles detailing every aspect of his life, his suicide and what led up to it. And it makes sense. A gay LGBT student bullied in a very public matter who later killed himself by jumping off the GW bridge that culminated in a very high-profile trial. Who wouldn't be interested in learning more about that story? But its also a story with a very neat and clean narrative. Being a closeted a homosexual already put pressure on him. The public shaming added more pressure and when you look at it from that perspective it makes it a very easy story to follow a long. The problem is suicide, depression and anxiety isn't that clean-cut and simple. It's complex and diverse and if the conversation around these issues isn't as complex and diverse we're always going to be playing catch-up with these issues.
  6. pmoehrin

    2017-18 NCAA Football Thread

    The following post is long and has very little to do with college football but is related to this incident. If either of these points bother you, I don't care. For the most part I could care less about college football. If I spent an hour last year watching college football it was a lot and I couldn't even tell you off the top of my head who won the Heisman because that's how little I care at this point. But this story struck a nerve with me the second I saw it. I'm not going to sit here and try to make sense of things or try to put myself in Hilinski's shoes. I hadn't even heard of him until this morning, but from what I can gather he seemed to be a second-tier QB prospect who was just starting to get his feet under him. He may even had a chance to play in the NFL. We'll never know, but from everything I've heard and can tell, this is someone who would have had a successful life and career whether he had played in the NFL or not. What I will say this is that I'm getting sick and tired of reading these kinds of stories. Kids with seemingly everything going for them and for whatever reason it winds up being too much for them to handle. Some people will point to social media. Some people will point to bullying. Some will even point to both, but in this instance how can either possibly be the case? Starting QB's of D1 schools don't get bullied, and idea that someone in that position could be convinced to do this simply because of social media sounds just as ridiculous. So what else was going on? That's a question that will haunt his family for the rest of their lives. I don't know if I could think of a more heartbreaking pain to go though than losing a child simply because they no longer wanted to live. You will never get a complete answer as to why. I'm not saying kids don't get bullied, or bullying can't cause kids to kill themselves. A 12-year old girl that lives 10 minutes from me killed herself over the summer because of bullying. It does happen. But not all depression is caused by bullying and in fact I would argue most of it is not caused by bullying and to focus the conversation on just one or two topics I think completely skips over a lot of what is really going on. The mother of the child I'm referring to was on Megyn Kelly two months later to talk about it. But if her kid committed suicide for any reason other than bullying, I don't think she would have been on TV to talk about it and therein lies the problem, because what makes the circumstances around one child's suicide any more tragic or harder to comprehend than another? My hope is this death can at least slightly change the conversation around this topic. It could be the case that CTE played a role in which case it will probably be just written off as that, but regardless of what cause it, as a society we need to get out of the mentality of "if we could somehow just get rid of this, or just change that, everything would be fine." I haven't read any two suicide stories that sounded exactly the same and I'm sure that will be the case here as well. It speaks to the wide diversity of forms depression can take on and I don't think we are at the point as a society where can fully appreciate or accept it. If anyone is struggling with these types of issues all I can say is even as infrequently as I post here these days, my inbox is always open, but whether its me or someone else (hopefully someone else if you're that serious) please talk to somebody before doing something like this. No problem is too small or insignificant not to talk about.
  7. pmoehrin

    MLB Hotstove 2016-17

  8. pmoehrin

    MLB Hotstove 2016-17

    Above is a photo from 1955 of Ford Frick and Dodgers TV host Happy Felton honoring Dazzy Vance, Roy Campanella, Zack Wheat, Duke Snider, Dixie Walker, Gil Hodges, Cookie Lavagetto, Pee Wee Reese and Jackie Robinson as members of the all-time Brooklyn Dodgers team. To my knowledge this is the first and only time an all Brooklyn Dodgers team was named by any major publication or news outlet. That is until tomorrow. If anyone out there would like to prove Cunningham's law and show that this claim is untrue on a message board, have at it. I've asked a few people who would know more than me about this subject and that picture is all I've gotten back.
  9. pmoehrin

    2016 MLB Season

    Then allow me to apologize to anyone who may have been offended by that wording. I don't know what your problem is with me, all I know is you clearly have one and it's bothering you way more than its bothering me. It's not the first, the second, the third or even the fourth time you've called me out like this, but I know the same can be said for other members as well and I don't see too many other people calling me out like this. Just you. That's how I know your the one with the problem. Not me.
  10. pmoehrin

    2016 MLB Season

    I appreciate the feedback but I rather this posted in the comments section of the article as opposed to this board. The thread is supposed to be about the current MLB season and I don't want to sidetrack that with comments about something I'm doing outside of this site. I'm glad your enjoying the series and I'm more than happy to continue this conversation through the Hardball Times site.
  11. pmoehrin

    2016 MLB Season

  12. pmoehrin

    2016 MLB Season

    As per the Hardball Times. Fun fact about the Rangers, 10 of my 25 selections for the active roster were born outside of the mainland United States. The two articles I wrote about the Orioles and Red Sox have been the two most commented on articles on the Hardball Times in that timespan. Considering the site features people who do this sort of stuff for a living it means a lot to me and hopefully I can maintain this momentum.
  13. pmoehrin

    2016 NCAA Football Thread

    Second winningest coach in LSU history, the highest winning percentage for any coach in school history as well as two SEC titles, and a National Title to his name. But none of that means anyhing if you can't answer one question. What have you done for me lately?
  14. pmoehrin

    2016 MLB Season

    Shades of Steve Olin and Tim Crews, but Jose Fernandez was younger than both and a better pitcher than Olin and Crews put together. I know I'm stating the obvious, but the death of Jose Fernandez will go down as one of the saddest days and chapters in baseball history. The Marlins have never been a great franchise but their farm system has produced some big time starters over the last two decades. Josh Johnson, Dontrelle Willis, Josh Beckett, A.J. Burnett, Anibal Sanchez. These are not nobodies. These are all former all-stars and Cy Young contenders and Jose Fernandez had the potential to be better than all of them. It doesn't take a genius to see potential in a guy who can throw 98. It was just a matter of gaining experience and staying healthy and this was the first year where Fernandez went from showing flashes of greatness to being someone you could count on to show that greatness every fifth day for 162 games. I would have expected 2017 to be the first year where there wouldn't be a discussion about Fernandez's potential, because now he's now a polished product ready to do dominate the league and contend for a Cy Young. Instead of that we're left with a gigantic what if. He had already proven himself as one of the better starters in all of baseball, but the best was yet to come and that's a big part of what makes this so sad. Hearing that he was also looking to settle down and start a family makes it even worse. His daughter will never know him. His personality was certainly a breath of fresh air especially in a league that like the NHL I think has struggled to find marketable personalities that appeal to casual or non-fans of the sport. Every time Fernandez took the mound, the interest meter moved and one would think once he got more established the meter would move even more. If nothing else I think the future Goose Gossage's or Jake Peavy's of the world could stand to learn a thing or two from someone like Fernandez and not take the game or themselves so seriously. There's been deaths in baseball before, but I'm not sure there's been anything quite like this. At least with someone like Thurman Munson, you saw the finished product. Oscarr Tavares was only around for a cup of coffee. With Jose Fernandez we only have the opening act of what could have been a 10, 15, possibly even a 20+ year career. We saw enough to know that something special was there, but not enough to say how special. All of this is nothing short of devastating. The Marlins are losing maybe the most talented pitcher the team has ever had, while his family is losing a 24 year old son and future father.
  15. pmoehrin

    Say it ain't so, Joe

    Good to know that meltdowns about defending the legacy of Joe Paterno isn't just limited to this message board. They do however seem to be limited to fans of Penn State football.