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  1. Yeah, no. The Blue Jays would have a fit if another MLB team in an Anglophone city tried to call themselves the Canadians (especially with the perception that Vancouver is less "Canadian" than other cities in the country). The logo is fine, sure, but it's nothing to write home about. "Mounties" is sadly out of the running, due to the RCMP disallowing it. Something tied in with the animals, nature, or history of the region would be cool, and far more original than "Canadians." You'll get no argument from me on that front. When I did my undergrad in Portland (Lewis & Clark College, BTW), I saw Ebbets Field Flannels' Beavers caps and shirts all the time. The name has BRAND EQUITY in the area (decades worth), and there are loads of options for unique color schemes (dark green/red, brown/kelly green, dark green/powder, and dark green/lime green, to name a few). It's a win. If Beavers wasn't an option, "Larks" (as @hettinger_rl recommended), one of @Ark's tree names, or something with wildlife would be good. A deer-themed name would be a good choice: That's my hat in the ring. As for it "being too silly and/or weak," baseball isn't really the kind of sport for reinforcing hypermasculinity. The "do burnouts with my matte black 2009 Mustang in the gravel pit at the car show because my mom hugged me too much" type is not the kind of person who'd be focus-grouped in this scenario.
  2. Going Full Yankee: An MLB Series

    Well, this looks fun! Cardinals: I find myself liking both versions. Good work. Phillies: Your final version is fantastic. I like the inverted road stripes. My only advice (and this applies to all of the concepts) is that you drop the NOB. It makes it more "Yankee-ish." Giants: I've always been open to the team embracing black pinstripes on an alternate, which is why I find myself liking your home uniform! The road sleeves are surprisingly attractive as well. My only suggestion would be to trim off the gold drop shadow (but I can understand the logic behind keeping it - Orioles differentiation). Cleveland: Aside from inverting the colors on the road uniform (red lettering with navy outlines), it's pretty sweet! The removal of the Wahoo patch is a good touch, too. Rangers: The second version is better, but I don't mind the road version of the first set. Rays: I like your update, but I do wish you went with powder lettering (with navy outlines). That may be a bit "much," but the whole set would "jive" a bit more with that color flip. Still, I'm impressed. I look forward to seeing how you'll handle the rest of the majors!
  3. 2017 MLB Postseason Thread

    You know, I don't mind one bit. Hopefully, the Dodgers' trip to the World Series is the kick in the butt that Larry Baer and Giants' front office needs to completely overhaul player development, coaching, and drafting strategy. Besides, this stuff is cyclical. The Giants cashed in big-time on their championship window, and now it's their turn to blow. It's a shame that they'll blow while their archrival is reaching new heights, but oh well. That's this strange and beautiful game I love. At least if the Yankees win, we won't get any "I want white vs. gray" whining.
  4. 2017 MLB Postseason Thread

    I'm just imagining the dbadefense freakout, and I'm smiling.
  5. MLB Changes 2017

    If there is to be a Montreal expansion team, I wouldn't mind if said team went out of their way to avoid the Expos' visual identity. Sure, have statues and retire the numbers of Expos greats (and #9 for Jackie Robinson's time on the Royals/Royaux), but try out a different color scheme (or color balance, if royal/red stays) and a better (preferably French) name. I just hope it wouldn't become a "Hornicats" situation, where the fans will only embrace a team with the Expos name and that dreadful "eMb" logo.
  6. 2017 MLB Postseason Thread

    There's a key difference here. The Yankees had won 22 championships up to that point, while that was the Mariners' first playoff appearance. It's hard to feel sympathy for the Yankees in that scenario, even with Mattingly. Sometimes, franchise legends miss out on the "championship legacy" that surrounded their tenure.
  7. MLB: Project 32 - San Francisco Giants, Pt. II Added

    Thank you! The Michael Schwab posters always bring a warm sentiment to my heart. Your aesthetic opinions and ideas are really sound, and I was more than happy to bring some of them to light (especially the new "TC" and the different "death to state names" concepts). Thanks! I'm a little wistful now that this series is over, as it was so much fun to produce. I'm thinking to do something with defunct teams, the old PCL, or something along those lines. That won't be for a while, though. Thanks! I've fixed the post to show the correct Sunday home cap. I don't know why I missed it. Thank for your C+C. It meant a lot to me, and this series would not have been the same without having you guys to bounce ideas off of and critique my designs. Thank you.
  8. MLB: Project 32 - San Francisco Giants, Pt. II Added

    Thanks, guys! Thanks! I figured that I should put it somewhere, and since the Surfing Friar roundel would have looked bad in brown/yellow or brown/orange, it fits it well. I'm thinking of posting a bunch of Padres recolors in my old tweaks thread at some point, to get them out in the open. Thank you. The 2010 team had a perfect look (matching templates, the orange top and orange-billed cap alt, the socks, and no nameplates on the road), but then the team slowly took it apart. While I like the current orange top, I'd much prefer it if the team stuck with their 2010 options. I beg to differ. The creme has character to it, and it ties in with the stadium/retro aesthetic of the team. It also is a further degree of separation between the Giants and Orioles. I spent my formative years as a fan with creme home uniforms, so I've got a bias towards them. Thanks! I too like the black alt (as anything is better than the outline-only stuff the team has done in the past). The space is the result of me trying to create a "banner" behind the wordmark, for to give adequate distance between the bridge, script, and seams. Thanks. Don't worry about it @the admiral, I was going to adjust the kerning on the font anyway. I like getting practice with Inkscape's many features. Now, let's seal up this series! SAN FRANCISCO SEALS, PT. II - We're going for a splash hit! I've always found the PCL's San Francisco Seals fascinating. The stories of Lefty O'Doul (NY Giants player, Seals manage, and an influential figure in Japanese baseball history), Joe DiMaggio's 61-game hitting streak, and Seals Stadium are as crucial to the history of baseball in San Francisco as McCovey, Bonds, and Posey. While I love the history of the Giants organization (I'm still hoping for a John McGraw statue), I also adore the Seals' name and identity. It calls back to a retro San Francisco, as classy as a Cable Car ride or an It's-It ice cream sandwich (BTW, @Bucfan56 is right, those things are delicious). So, I decided to combine the two! I opted to keep the black/orange, to fit with the standard of my Dodgers-Angels concept (maintaining the NYC colors). I brought in the Vancouver/Memphis Grizzlies' bronze color for the sea/sea lion logo and striping (as a little change of pace). The seal in the logo (a home plate version of my Giants primary) is in keeping with the aesthetic standards of the 1997/8 Cardinals redesign with minimal, yet modern detailing. It's a modernization of the Seals' old logos, albeit based on a real-life image of Zalophus californianus. The wordmark font is a slightly-thickened Futura, as it reminds me of the Michael Schwab posters I saw all around the Bay Area while growing up (he designed the 2007 All-Star Game logos). The secondary is my attempt to merge the Seals' old cap insignia with the Giants' 1994-present logo (which makes it resemble the NY Giants' cap a bit more). The seal/sea lion (who I'm calling "Lou," after the mascot) is the tertiary. The uniforms feature a few deviations from the current Giants' look. The stripes now go orange/black/bronze/black/orange, to get the bronze into the set and do an informal 1983-93 tribute. In doing the Giants-Seals translation, I figured that the Giants would adopt a modified version of the Seals' cursive script (given their dalliances with it and wanting more differentiation from the Pirates). Lary Baer and co. would have had the wordmarks modernized during the 1990's, and maybe tweaked a set a little in the move to Willy Mays Park in 2000. In reality, this was the perfect opportunity for me to turn the 1994-present dugout jacket/BP script into a set of uniform wordmarks. I opted to not use creme and no-NOB at home, because of the more "modern" status of the NL Seals. The number font is a sans-serif version of my Astros numerals, and the primary is on the sleeves of both uniforms. The alternates are a translation of my Giants uniforms to the Seals identity. Lou is on the sleeve of the orange top, while the black top now features a front number and tweaked striping. The second set of alternates are also translations. The orange-billed cap returns (I like it), while the Gotham Day uniform is a bit more of a hodgepodge. I went for the 1954 jerseys and pants while employing the 1933 caps and socks. I did this for two reasons. One: I like the older cap logo and sock stripes more than the later look and two: that I would prefer to not use a "NY" that's near-identical to the Mets' "NY." It's a bit of brand differentiation and personal preference. I love the Giants, and I love the Seals. With this concept, the Giants can honor both the history of baseball in the City by the Bay and the storied heritage of the Polo Grounds squads. C+C is appreciated! With that, MLB: Project 32 has concluded! I would like to thank all of the people who have followed this thread, like @coco1997, @MJD7, @Carolingian Steamroller, @the admiral, @Paul Lucas, @SS8609, and @KittSmith_95, among others. It was so much fun experimenting on these teams and incorporating the C+C into my designs. I'm probably going to do BP jerseys/caps and jackets, but that won't be for some time. I'm going to take a much-needed break. Thanks, guys and I'll see you soon!
  9. NHL 2017-18

    It's not just worthless :censored:e, it's feckin' worthless :censored:e that gets power-blasted into your face. Let's see if the swear filter can block Irish epithets! It's an old post, but it's one that was sitting in my editor for a while. I couldn't find one. I did find this creature: Meet the Slide Rock Bolter. Maybe naming the team after this cryptid would have been a better option!
  10. Unpopular Opinions

    I like them too. Count me in as somebody who thinks the Panthers have some of the best uniforms in the NFL. However, they should drop the redundant white pants. Silver looked good with the white jerseys the one time they did it.
  11. NHL 2017-18

    The Chicago Athletic Club has been using that C for longer than anybody else, dating back to the 1890's. The Yeti foot is still too cartoony for my tastes (and I'm a hardcore Johnny Canuck supporter), while the "C with puck" is just dull. There should be a happy medium between the two logos.
  12. MLB: Project 32 - San Francisco Giants, Pt. II Added

    Thanks, guys! You're welcome and thank you. I'm surprised I don't see more green Brewers merchandise, given the presence of both the Packers and Bucks. Thanks! I did think about using my radial arched 1994-99 wordmark, but I determined that it still looked like ass. @MJD7's series showed that the only way to make that script look good was to remove its outlines. With outlines, it's near-illegible. With the Diamondbacks, it comes down to outlines. They've always gone for double outlines, and the longer wordmarks ("San Francisco" and "Cincinnati") use single outlines with a bit of drop shadow. Besides, it's been done, and I think the results speak for themselves. Thank you! I was surprised at how my fonts and brown shade (lighter than the 1985-90 one) made them look way less like the Giants. I liked it better than my "Mission" set in those colors. Also, peanut butter cups (Reese's, Justin's, etc.) are best when they've been refrigerated for at least two hours. Thank you! I'm redoing the road uniform to include the tertiary patch in my original post. They did the different home/road patches from 2000-2010, so it's fitting that they should keep it up. I'm thinking of doing a merged Giants-Seals look, much like I did with the Dodgers-LA Angels. Navy/orange is on the table, as are black/orange/gray and maybe dark green/orange/gray (I loved the way those colors look together).
  13. College Football Uniforms - 2017 Season

    I never thought I'd see my alma mater on this thread. Go L&C!
  14. MLB: Project 32 - San Francisco Giants, Pt. II Added

    Thanks! I'm surprised Lids or Hat Club hasn't done hats with the 1994-99 star in the navy/orange colors. I'd consider buying one. Thanks! @MJD7 made a fantastic suggestion, and it turned out better than I thought it would. I've got new versions of that black alt and a less orangey edition of the '94-'99 rainbow: I didn't suppose that the "H" would be balanced enough, but the front number and the sleeve stripes work wonders with it. I've also added Brick-centric Railmen road uniforms to my previous post. I don't know why I forgot to add them the first time. Now, our feature presentation! SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS, PT. I - My team, my mini-tweaks! As you can tell from my board nickname, I am a fan of the San Francisco Giants baseball club. It's run in my family since the 1960's (on my Mom's side), and I've stuck with them ever since I was a little kid. I remember getting my heart broken in 2002 and 2003, and watching as the crazy team fell apart under the strain of egos, age, and money. I also remember my high school years of watching the team get its collective crap together and go on the most unlikely and enjoyable World Series run in 2010 (Have you looked at the batting lineup of that squad? It's mind-boggling how a group of nobodies did that). While I love the 2012 and 2014 squads, the 2010 team will always have a special place in my heart. Not just because of that rotation (I miss ya, Big Time Timmy Jim), all of the joy of winning the first title in San Francisco, or attending Game 3 of the NLCS and Game 1 of the World Series. No no, the uniforms played a part in that, too. You see, the 2010 team had a road uniform that matched the home uniform (and tributed the 1960's grays ), without the needless placket trim. They also had a better orange top, wore the orange-billed cap more often (unpopular opinion, but I love that hat), and more guys wore the tri-stripe socks. So, I figured I should go back to that, but with a twist. This twist is that I wanted a better primary logo than just the team wordmark in front of a ball. I know that it's a Giants trademark, but I don't like it. I wanted a logo with more of a San Francisco vibe, without having to use cable car/trolley imagery (it's too close to the Bums). So, I opted to add the Golden Gate Bridge to the top of the logo in two ways. The first is a straight-up depiction of the structure from the 50th-anniversary logo with a little distortion. The second is that the top of the bridge mimics the shape of the towers (from the current alternate logo and 2010 World Champions mark ). It's a fun touch, and it reminds me of one of my favorite John Barry compositions (warning: Tanya Roberts screams a lot). Outside of the primary logo, I replaced the Copperplate fonts with Ocean Beach Major. It's a close imitator of the Giants' lettering font. I updated the old roundel to tie in with the new primary. Gold and its drop shadows are no longer a part of the color scheme, as I've never been fond of them. The uniforms go back to their 2010 form, with a few adjustments. The new primary is on the sleeves of the home jersey, while the tertiary patch is on the road. The tri-stripe socks are now full-time. I thought about bringing in my condensed "Giants/Pirates font" for the road uniform, but it had legibility issues. I went with the primary on the home uniform at first, but I reconsidered it after @coco1997 suggested it was "too much creme." He was right, so I updated it. Here is the original version. The alternates get a bit of a re-jig. The 2010 orange top now comes with the orange-billed cap, and I made a new black top. This one has the "SF" insignia on the chest, placket trim, and three stripes on the sleeves. It ties the socks in with the jersey, and casually tributes the 1983-93 grays (without being a redundant grey top). It's got the minimal-creme tertiary logo on the sleeve. The other alternates are nothing fancy. The first set pairs the orange-billed cap with the home set, while the second is a recreation of the 1933 uniform. I've always liked the way it looked (familiar, yet different), and it pairs well with the similar alt I made for the Dodgers. The Giants don't need to do much to have a top-notch set. By tweaking the primary logo and cleaning up the uniform templates, they can go from an 8 to a perfect 10! C+C is appreciated. Up next, let's "Seal" the deal! P.S. The modeling numbers are 58 for the 1958 relocation year and 32 for Mr. Rally Enchilada himself, Ryan Vogelsong!
  15. MLB: Project 32 - San Francisco Giants, Pt. II Added

    Thanks! I got you covered there! I'm surprised with how much like it, and how much it's making me want a peanut butter cup. Thanks! I like the thicker stripes as well. The heft ties in well with the cap logo and the sock stripes. Thanks! Anywho, here's some Astros-related fun! Leading off, a @Paul Lucas request, the 1994-99 star on the star-blast uniform: Next in the lineup: HOUSTON ASTROS, 1994-99 - Re-kerned and on a new gradient. Per @the admiral's recommendation, I adjusted the gradient to lessen the red. It's much cleaner now and reads more like my beloved 1997-2010 Warriors. I also fixed the kerning on the numbers. Batting third: HOUSTON RAILMEN - A less nasty name, with a few other tweaks. After I learned what a "railer" was (fellatio with too much teeth action), I decided to change the name to "Railmen." While there is zero evidence that the Astros considered the name "Railmen" (outside of unsubstantiated claims from our boards), I still went ahead with it. I titled the scripts (per @coco1997's recommendation) and tried out Brick-centric road uniforms (per @MJD7's advice): In cleanup: HOUSTON RAILERS - Tequila Sunrise on a Train. Also, since @MJD7 proposed building a whole set around the Astros-style alternate, I did just that. It also includes my button-front/belted pants take on the Tequila Sunrise, which would be a sublimation festival! It was fun! The Giants should be up later tonight!