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Everything posted by SFGiants58

  1. Seattle NHL Brand Discussion

    That's too generous. Those weren't coffee grounds, they were used coffee filters! I'm cool with the Sharks wanting to acknowledge the Seals' history, but I'd rather they not go too far with it (e.g., wearing throwbacks and acknowledging the Seals' records). Most Sharks fans either don't care about the Seals or see them as a miserable organization that they don't want connected to their slightly above-average franchise.
  2. Seattle NHL Brand Discussion

    Well, boobs would have been one way to get people to like the new "TC." Still, speaking of baseball names, it'd be nice for a Seattle team to adopt the "Rainiers" or "Seals" name. I'm also keen on Emeralds and Evergreens, for the multi-green potential within.
  3. Seattle NHL Brand Discussion

    I like some of his stuff, but a lot of it is overdesigned and tied to dumb names. His behavior in the Las Vegas thread (pushing the lady with the "Aces" belt buckle and acting condescending towards people who disliked it) did not reflect well on him. He's a misguided lawsuit away from the Washington "Professional Baseball" guy.
  4. NHL 2017-18

    The Sharks, Canucks, Bruins, maybe? Even the "best" look for the Capitals is way too over-designed. It would also be helpful to note that by the end of that set's life, this had become their main sweater: I could go into all of the perspective, type, and detail problems that the logo had (and how the sweater minimized the blue in favor of black/gold), but other posters have done that. It's a shame that they've never had a good look, despite all of the potential within their logo sets. It's kind of like the team, in a way.
  5. I am SHOCKED AND APPALLED that you even considered using black pants! Having pants that are the same color as the home jersey would lead them into the evils of monochrome. Put white pants on the white jersey, or I'm calling you out for bad taste! Seriously though, I like the satire of this thread. Sometimes we get a little too deep into "echo chamber" territory (i.e., when people dare to criticize the Oilers' look or when somebody resists a MUH NINTIES-gasm), and it's good to poke fun at it.
  6. MLB changes 2018?

    Sometimes, I wonder if the NL should have just let them move to D.C. in the mid-'70s. At least them wearing navy/red would make sense in that city.
  7. Just change the logo (and nothing else), and you've got a Titans concept! Better yet, just put the Oilers' old logo on it, because the Titans have a garbage identity and we all want the Oilers back! Oilers, Oilers, Oilers!
  8. 2018 MLB Hot Stove Season

    Well, 2012 me would be complaining about why Longo was needed and that the Giants should still give Gary Brown a shot. As for the trade itself: I guess that acquiring these guys is better than trotting out the Gorkys Hernandez and the gang (i.e., Parker, Williamson, etc.). It's not amazing, but it's a mild upgrade.
  9. How much can you "update" a classic?

    Illustrator also existed at the time, albeit with fewer abilities. Envelope distort and "text on path" would have been in a pretty primitive state at the time.
  10. How much can you "update" a classic?

    You either go full Fisherman, or you don't bother. The in-between is too awkward to really have that same "so bad, it's good" pull.
  11. NHL 2017-18

    So, is it Heaven and Hell?
  12. How much can you "update" a classic?

    Winning a division is no small feat, I'll grant you that. But to go 5/14 in pennants and 1/5 in the World Series is not good (if were talking the playoffs in total, they went 1/14 - or 0/3 and 1/11 if you divide between playoff formats). When you have the best rotation in baseball and amazing players that are in the postseason that often, only one World Series is a disappointment. It's embarrassing that they couldn't win when it mattered the most. I wouldn't call the Dodgers of the 1940s/'50s embarrassing at all, as they played against the best the AL had to offer. Those Braves often fell to less-than-stellar teams in the playoffs (e.g., five consecutive first-round exits from 2000-05), choked (e.g., 2-0 lead in the 1996 World Series, swept in the 1999 World Series, couldn't close it out in 1991), and ran into more potent. They should have dominated the 1990's in the way that the Yankees did, but instead they folded again and again. Maybe their competition was tougher, maybe the NL East (where they played after 1994) was a weak division (Mets being on-again, off-again contenders, Phillies entering a rut, the Expos falling apart, and the Marlins flopping around while somehow winning two World Series), I don't know. The 1991-2005 Braves were a consistently good team, but they weren't good enough when it mattered the most. Think of them as the post-1977 Trail Blazers or the 1970s-90s Flyers, often a great team, but never the best and rarely looked upon without the modifier of "what could have been" or "they should have won more."
  13. How much can you "update" a classic?

    ...and won a solitary World Series. Winning the division every year for over a decade and failing to net more than one championship shouldn't be celebrated, it should be considered embarrassing for both the team and their division. It should put them in the same boat as the St. Louis Blues of the '80s-'00s. While there have been visual downgrades (e.g., road hat), it's not like the original was all that untouchable. The Braves looked far better in their late Boston/early Milwaukee days, with contrast-colored tomahawks and the Northwestern stripes on the socks. Put the "A" on the headwear, replace the black tomahawk with a navy one, and add the "Atlanta" script.
  14. 2017 NFL Season: Then there were 12

    This whole deal strikes me as an idea that Mark Davis had while tripping out on an MSG overdose. I don't know if you can OD on the stuff, but Mark would probably be the first guy to do it.
  15. NHL 2017-18

    I'd argue that caramelized pineapple in julienned strips might be a good pizza topping, but raw chunks are a nasty mishmash of texture and prevents proper folding. Also, MetroStars was a terrible name. Good red/black kits towards the end, but a stereotypical "x-treme" '90s name.
  16. NFL 2018 changes

    Sadly, that is all true. The head injury part of the game really limits my ability to engage with the sport.
  17. NFL 2018 changes

    I happen to like the one-helmet rule. It's a "first line of defense" against CFB-style craziness.
  18. Players on the "RIGHT" Team, but "WRONG" Uniform

    Joey Votto, with the wrong uniform (vest with block-style lettering), number, and hairstyle.
  19. 2017 NFL Season: Then there were 12

    It's a different 0-16 than the Lions' variety. While that Lions team was a bit more of an isolated case, these Browns have been in free fall the past few years. It's the culmination of about 20 years worth of mediocre-to-terrible football. Would contraction be an option, with the old Browns' records going back to the Ravens? I know that eliminating a franchise won't happen, but it's a legitimate idea given the state of the Browns.
  20. Well, I guess there's no better way to celebrate post #1600 than by launching my newest concept thread! Welcome to MLB: Project 32! After posting in my tweaks thread for about two years (where I'll keep posting little one-offs), I figured I should reorganize all of my concepts with new presentations, template tweaks (mostly altering sleeve and trouser displays), and other refinements. I will try to have regular updates, as long as my schedule allows it. Above are the preliminary colors for each team, along with new divisional alignments! There are no more Centrals, but rather two divisions of eight. The Astros and Diamondbacks have swapped spots (making the 1998 expansion an AL expansion, parallel to the 1993 NL expansion), while one team has been added to each league. The top two teams in each division make the playoffs (seeded 1-4 regardless of division) and the first round grows to seven games (because no Wild Card game and "death to small sample size randomness"). This series will feature two parts per team. One part will be the main concept, the one I'm most happy with presenting. The other will be an alternate take. These will explore past identities, shirk off brand equity, and present interesting fusions. I hope to you take you guys on a wild ride, so let's get started! TEAMS American League East Baltimore Orioles (Modern St. Louis Browns) Boston Red Sox (Forest Green + Red Sox) Carolina Pilots (Modern Seattle Pilots) Cleveland Indians (Cleveland Guardians) Detroit Tigers (Bengal-ized Tigers) New York Yankees (Dugout Script + Red Accent Yankees) Tampa Bay Stingrays (Tampa Bay Rays "of Light") Toronto Blue Jays (Salvaging the Black Jays) AL East Updates/AL West Teaser American League West Anaheim Angels (Navy/Red Revival) Arizona Diamondbacks (Phoenix Snakes) Chicago White Sox (Greyscale goodness) Kansas City Royals (Royal Blue + Metallic Gold) Minnesota Twins (Forest Green + Light Blue and "Twin Cities") Oakland Athletics (Oakland Oaks) Seattle Mariners (Royal/Yellow and Pt. I Update) Texas Rangers (Dallas Chaparrals) AL West Updates and NL East Teaser National League East Atlanta Braves (Atlanta Firebirds) Cincinnati Reds (Fancy Block, scripts, and black highlights) Miami Marlins (Updated) (Florida Flamingos) Montréal Expos (Updated) (Montréal Voyageurs) New York Mets (Updated) (Black and Pink Windowpanes and Road Options) Philadelphia Phillies (Blue and Gold, a keystone, and William Penn) Pittsburgh Pirates (Updated) (Tuscan Font and Updated Pirate) Washington Nationals (Salvaging the Beveled Nats) NL East Updates and NL West Teaser National League West Chicago Cubs (Gray Update) (1930's Modernization) Colorado Rockies (Updated) (Denver Zephyrs) Houston Astros (Updated) (1994-99 gradient) (Houston Railers) Los Angeles Dodgers (Los Angeles Angels) Milwaukee Brewers (Rescuing the Germanic Brewers) St. Louis Cardinals (Updated) (1956 Modernization) San Diego Padres (Surf's Up in Navy and Brown/Light Blue/Yellow) San Francisco Giants (San Francisco Seals)
  21. 2017 NFL Season: Then there were 12

    Those 2 decades of contention have only netted the team three NFC championships, with the last one coming seven years ago. I'd hardly put them in the same boat as the Pats.
  22. 2018 MLB Hot Stove Season

    Two "eh" prospects, which is not bad for a guy who was horrendous in 2017 after two good months in 2016. It's better than having Duffy, whose Achilles injuries are bad enough that he considered retiring. Outside of the prospect the Giants sent to the Rays (Lucious Fox, who may or may not be a significant player), that trade was a loss for everyone.
  23. MLB changes 2018?

    Maybe it's just the example that got photographed, but the angle on the script is way too steep.
  24. What throwbacks do you want to see?

    I agree with that, but I still love them. The teal sweaters went all out with the shark theme, what with the grey "fins" and the black "gash marks." It had a good color balance and gave the team a unique, yet unappealing aesthetic. The design did not translate well at all to the white or black sweaters.