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  1. Welcome to MLB: The Defunct Series! After spending last year producing Project 32’s myriad of redesigns and tweaks, I figured that I should apply the same philosophy to the defunct teams of the majors. Much like its predecessor, each team will have two to three parts. The first part will be the main concept, the one that I’m happiest with presenting/matches the historical trajectory of the team’s aesthetics. The other will be an alternate take, in which I can explore different identities and shirk brand equity to have a little fun. I’ve also got plans to include several attempted relocations, with a focus on deals that fell through at the last minute/pose the most visual interest. These will not have alternate takes since they are essentially alternate takes in their own right. The releases will go by chronology, starting with the Boston Braves. The only one out of order is the last one since the short lifespan of the said team leaves their visual history up for more speculation. TEAMS The Defunct Set Boston Braves (Boston Beacons) St. Louis Browns (Updated) (Oriole-ized) (Updated) Philadelphia Athletics (The Charlie O Touch) (Mini-Update) New York Giants (Updated) (New York Gothams) (Update and Mets Variants) Brooklyn Dodgers (Updated "Brooklyn" script) (Brooklyn Canaries w/ Los Angeles Canaries modification) Washington Senators/Washington Nationals (Nationals Update - new primary) (Twins-style Senators/Nationals) Milwaukee Braves (Update Explanation - Second Update Explanation) (Milwaukee Brewers I and Milwaukee Brewers II) Kansas City Athletics (Update Explanation) (Kansas City Blues - Update) (Kansas City Monarchs) Washington Senators II (1990s redesign) Attempted Relocations and Failed Expansion - Organized by City Atlanta Atlanta Athletics The Carolinas Dallas Dallas Athletics (Update) Denver Denver Athletics Denver Pirates Hartford Indianapolis Indianapolis Arrows Los Angeles Los Angeles Angels - former Washington Sens/Nats or expansion team (Updated) Los Angeles Athletics (Update) Louisville Louisville Athletics (Elephant Jersey) Miami Milwaukee Houston/Milwaukee Cardinals Milwaukee Brewers - former St. Louis Browns (Updated) (Project 32 Style) Milwaukee Athletics (Milwaukee update explanation) Milwaukee White Sox (Update Comparison & New Home Uniform Explanation) Milwaukee Brewers Prototypes Minnesota Minneapolis Giants, Twin Cities Giants, and Minnesota Giants Monterrey, México New Orleans New Orleans Athletics New Orleans Pirates Phoenix Phoenix Athletics Portland San Diego San Diego Athletics San Diego Reds (Updates) San Francisco San Francisco Seals - former Washington Sens/Nats or expansion team/s San José San José Giants San Juan, Puerto Rico Seattle Seattle Athletics (green/yellow and green/white) Chicago Athletics and Seattle White Sox Seattle Rainiers (former Cleveland Indians) Tampa Bay - The Sweepstakes! - Introduction, Outline, and Dramatis Personæ Tampa Bay Pirates Tampa Bay Tarpons (ex-Minnesota Twins & Washington Sens/Nats)(Tampa Bay Twins/Tarpons variants) Tampa Bay Athletics Florida White Sox Tampa Bay Cannons (ex-Texas Rangers/Washington Senators) Florida Panthers (Forest Green/Creamsicle Recolor) Florida/Tampa Bay Whitecaps (Seren Script with a triple blue palette) Tampa Bay Mariners Tampa Bay Giants - The Recreations Traditional font updated Floridian cursive Update explanation Tampa Bay Sting Rays and wrap-up Compilations Toronto Toronto Giants Washington, D.C. (and Virginia) Washington Nationals (Ex-San Diego Padres) Washington Nationals (Ex-Pittsburgh Pirates) Washington Nationals (Ex-Baltimore Orioles)
  2. Thanks! I got those vibes as well. The font is UA Tiffany, an old Conrad font. Thanks! Thanks! I'll knock up those updates in my next post. The way you're describing the updates for the Nats, it kind of reminds me of the Germanic Brewers' later iteration (which I like). Anyway, onto the next team! WASHINGTON NATIONALS (former Baltimore Orioles) - Founding a cartoon We are all familiar (or will soon be) with Peter Angelos’ many attempts to prevent a team from moving to Washington, D.C.’s RFK Stadium. He saw DC as Orioles territory (part of the reason why he held off on a “Baltimore” script for the road uniforms for so long), which both antagonized many attempts to place a team in the market and resulted in the MASN disaster. Angelos was not alone in seeing DC as Orioles country. In fact, one of his predecessors wanted to take it a bit further. Edward Bennett Williams, a minority owner of the Washington Football Team, bought the Orioles in 1979. It was heavily rumored that he wanted to move the team to DC for the 1981 season. However, the team wound up renewing their lease at Memorial Stadium, despite the DC Armory Board offering them a 1-year, $12,500 per month lease. The Orioles would rather be Washington’s team by proxy (with the possibility of playing 13 games at RFK each year), rather than playing in the city proper.1 However, what if the O’s had pulled a Spanos and committed to a full-time move? I opted to use the Nationals name again since the Rangers still owned the “Senators” trademark. Since I didn’t want to add another navy/red team to the AL East, the team would use the Presidential Seal colors in a co-dominant fashion. Copper appears as an accent color. The most obvious part of this translation is to do as I did for my St. Louis Browns alternate take, turning Wally Bird into a Founding Father. Using a few references and some much-appreciated help from @Htown1141, I made the adaptation. He’s in a roundel for the primary and on his own for the secondary. The “W” on his tricorn hat and the tertiary is the 1955-60 Washington Senators’ cap logo. The uniforms feature slightly-adjusted versions of the modern Nationals’ scripts, with 1960s-early ‘90s Orioles-style hard edges on the letters. Double outlines and three-layer striping takes full advantage of the color scheme, with the sock stripes adapt the 1960s Orioles’ pattern. The caps have a slate blue bill, while the primary is on the sleeves. The alternates include both slate and black jerseys. The slate jersey has a white front-panel cap, while the black jersey uses the road script. The second set of alts pairs the white front-panel cap with the home uniform, while also offering a pinstriped throwback. This one places the Founding Father on the sleeve while placing the “W” on the cap. I re-used the script from my Washington Padres concept, while placing the block W on the cap. The jacket highlights the co-dominance of each color. While the Orioles pulling a Spanos would have been an awful idea, they could have adapted their identity well enough. C+C is appreciated, as always! Up next, I’ve got some updates to Defunct Saga and Project 32 concepts! 1 Dave Kindred, “Orioles Destined To Flee,” The Washington Post, August 8, 1979, https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1979/08/03/orioles-destined-to-flee/e3301bdb-2e2d-4e48-8e4a-a855709e8521/; Jane Leavy, “Birds Renew Lease,” The Washington Post, July 1, 1980, https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1980/07/01/birds-renew-lease/89728653-063c-45bc-ad1d-4d2fe7994cd1/?utm_term=.6cf097574026; Jake Russell, “San Diego Padres Were Once so Close to Moving to D.C. They Had Uniforms and Everything - The Washington Post,” The Washington Post - D.C. Sports Blog, June 16, 2016, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2016/06/16/the-time-the-san-diego-padres-were-this-close-to-moving-to-d-c/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.12b3e5479833; Nancy Scannell and John Feinstein, “Washington Hopes to Lure Williams,” The Washington Post, August 3, 1979, https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1979/08/03/washington-hopes-to-lure-williams/669bb873-2879-43d2-adc2-07e43ac1b5b7/.
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    2019 MLB Changes

    I agree with this assessment. Heck, even their block wordmark looked good: Road uniforms, however, have been occasional duds: Needless double outlines are needless. I’ve always been partial to the 1989-94 cursive script, as it effectively modernizes the dynasty-era design. A cleaned up version of the 1950s-1972 “Baltimore” script would pair well with it.
  4. Well, we culturally tie military service and success in military service to masculinity and the validation of said masculinity. This is especially the case if you’re a bit of a schlub who would normally receive dissing from family members and women you’d love dating. Look at how many low-level guys in the service try to pump up their handiwork. One example would be Vietnam-era Marine Leonard Lake. He spent his time in the Marines twiddling knobs on a radio, but came back claiming that he had a bunch of kills. He also maintained the mindset, calling many of his activities “Operation ____.” It was very much an attempt to affirm his masculinity and fuel his pre-existing beliefs (e.g., nuclear holocaust, survivalism, and most importantly, subjugating innocent women to sex slavery in the pattern of John Fowles’ The Collector). The story of Leonard Lake and Charles Ng (another Marine who never saw combat, unless you count running from the Chasers after stealing grenade launchers as “combat”) is one of the most terrifying serial killer sagas. I recommend researching it (and listening to the Last Podcast on the Left episodes on them, if you can stomach Henry Zebrowski’s surprisingly accurate impression of Ng). But back to the Ducks. I’m glad they dropped the “Mighty” part of the name, but I do wish Burke had OK’d a realistic duck logo. That would solve so many problems with the team’s identity.
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    NHL changes 2019-20

    My favorite Minnesota hockey sweaters: The North Stars should be wearing a happy medium of these two designs. They’d wear Forest Green and a Yellow-Gold, with a slightly-tweaked version of the N-star.
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    Introducing the Alliance of American Football

    I think likes on posts calling out controversial statements are a de facto downvote button.
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    NHL changes 2019-20

    Eh, I’m of the opinion that black ruined the North Stars’ identity. It added a bunch of pointless clutter to a clean look. All they needed to do to “mature” the look was darken the green. Something like the Dallas Stars’ current green or the Wild’s green would have been perfect (even if the latter would be a bit Packers-ish).
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    Unrealized Stadiums

    Heck, the Giants had some Sox Field-like and Kauffman-like plans for their various failed referendums: Link one Link two There was also the San José plan, which was rejected by a wide margin in the “Measure G” referendum in 1992. Here is the proposed site on Google Maps. It would have been south of Highway 237 near Tasman Drive and Zanker Road. It’s got a bit of a Sox Field-meets-Citizens Bank Park aesthetic. I have not found a rendering of the park that the Giants wanted to build on the Levi’s Stadium site.
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    NHL changes 2019-20

    It’d look so much better without the black.
  10. I bet he drives a Duece-and-a-Half or a military spec Hummer H1. All military all the time guys really are annoying, especially if they never served.
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    NFL Merry-Go-Round: Relocation Roundelay

    I hope Mark Davis leaves the team to the LDS after a deathbed conversion and the posthumous baptism of Al. Watching a controversial Christian sect run an NFL team could be comedy gold!
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    Full list of teams with neon colors?

    Cleveland deals are a disease to official record-keeping in sports. The fewer there are, the better. The real San José Earthquakes are in Houston right now, while the Fake Quakes shouldn’t have the right to the old team’s legacy. The Wild are the Wild, they will never be the North Stars (also, if they were, they shouldn’t get the records - the same goes for a future Seattle basketball or Montréal baseball team). Let them live with their bad name, because it at least gave them a top-10 crest in the NHL. The Texans are the Texans, they should NEVER be the Oilers (such an overrated identity that I’m glad is gone). The pastels really needed a contrasting color.
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    2019 MLB Changes

    The Orioles should just get rid of the realistic bird entirely. Make a roundel with the bird head the secondary (as demonstrated by @Go Red Sox!‘s concept): Something akin to this would be perfect.
  14. Thanks! I really wanted to keep the Pirates’ status as a black-based team for the move. I figured the vintage-modern blend would work really well here. I’ve got a revised color balance later in the post, which solves the muddling. Also, that DC insignia works well on the black jersey. Thanks for the idea! Thanks! I really enjoyed putting it together. I’ve got a few color schemes for you: Navy/Yellow-Gold: Navy/Metallic Gold: ”Shamrock Series” (a Project 32 favorite) I think you’re right about my color balance for the Nationals. I opted for the 1990s-style color scheme, if only because I didn’t want to add a navy team. The metallic gold doesn’t make for all that great of a primary color, especially when the Pirates have rarely been a gold-first team. So, I’ve redistributed the colors to be black/gold/slate, which looks far less muddy. Thanks for the suggestion! It really cleaned things up. With concern for a “Cleveland Deal” (which is something I oppose, due to record transfers) or a “Winnipeg Jets Deal” (a much better idea), I’m sure a new Pittsburgh club would have adopted the Pirates’ name, colors, and font. However, I’m not sure a Pittsburgh expansion would be on a post-1970s expansion scope. The market shrank considerably follow the ‘60s due to various economic circumstances (I remember @the admiral claiming that the diaspora partially explains the nation-wide Steelers fandom). The diaspora gets frequent mentions in period articles about the Pirates’ fading fortunes in the post-1979 & pre-Bonds era. It’s a world where navy/red doesn’t jive all that well with the modern image of the Pirates (or the next team on the docket). Thanks! The new concept should be up soon.
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    NHL changes 2019-20

    I was hoping for Kelly Green and yellow (no black), merging the two eras of Minnesota hockey.
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    2019 MLB Changes

    Calling the Naimoli period of the Rays’ history a comedy of errors would be far too charitable. I believe the gradient was his idea (selling a bunch of apparel in different colors), but he must have backed off upon seeing disappointing returns (driving people away with the quality of play may have had a role in that). I’m just glad the NL didn’t let him run the Giants (while hurting the rest of the league, due to CBS’ lowering their TV deal if the move happened) into the ground like that.
  17. Also, @NicDB, I've got your Brewers set ready to go! I've adjusted a few things (number font, NOB, blue shoes, and the blue shades), while also presenting a powder blue and grey version of the road uniforms.
  18. Thanks! I'm glad you like it. I wanted the green to be less of the overly-dark green from Project 32. The contrast striping, while unusual, was my attempt to balance the color scheme in the same way as the 1948 Cleveland squad. Thanks! Admittedly, Colts doesn't have as much variance as the above names. It's horses, guns, or an alcoholic beverage. That'd be a decent idea down the line. Thanks! I can totally do a few variations soon, since I like that Brewers set as well. My theory on why the Rainiers name didn't stick around like the Padres concerned trademark issues with Rainier Beer or their parent companies. Still, the current situation of Seattle Mariners/Tacoma Rainiers is a good one. Yes, I have considered the LA Stars as a concept plan! I'm debating how I'd adapt the Angels' various aesthetic conventions (e.g., Red Sox clone, halo-A becomes a star-A, and how to adapt the lowercase and Disney sets). Anyway, it's time for the next one! WASHINGTON NATIONALS (former Pittsburgh Pirates) - Hints of Grays Following the departure of the Second Senators, the District of Columbia looked for several opportunities to bring back baseball. We’ve already covered the Padres’ near-relocation (New Orleans, Denver, and Tampa Bay), but other teams received consideration throughout history. One of the most notable potential Washington teams was the Pirates, whose 1980s struggles have been well-covered in this thread. The Sports Illustrated and San Francisco Chronicle articles I cited earlier both pointed towards Washington, DC as a potential landing spot. While I couldn’t find any substantial information concerning a potential deal to move the Bucs to RFK Stadium, I figured that maybe one or two interested individuals may have reached out to the Galbreaths.1 However, the 1980s wasn’t the only time the Pirates entertained a DC transfer. The next attempt to move the Pirates to the district was in 1995 when the Pittsburgh Associates sold the team to Kevin McClatchy’s ownership group. Washington businessman William Collins (who will come back in a big way a few teams from now) was prepared to make an offer on the team and relocate them to RFK (and a North Virginia Stadium later). Of course, the McClatchy deal went through, and the Pirates stayed in the Steel City.2 But what if a DC group materialized in the 1980s or the McClatchy deal fell through? What would the team look like now? I figured that a complete rebrand made sense, with the team adopting the “Nationals” name. The colors would be an attempt to marry the black/gold with the Presidential Seal colors of the Caps/Wizards. The light slate blue is a minor accent compared to the black and metallic gold. The font, UA Tiffany, is an attempt to homage the common ground between Pittsburgh and DC - the Homestead Grays. The primary logo is an adaptation of my AL Nationals design, accommodating the new colors and fonts. The insignias form the secondary and tertiary marks. The uniforms feature striping to take advantage of the color scheme, with the condition that white and metallic gold never touch. It gives the whole look a colorful edge, which is important for a 1990s-style “dark-n-fade” colorway. The alternates include both a slate blue and a black jersey. I placed the “W” insignia on the chest of the blue shirt and the “DC” crest on the sleeve of the black top. The second set of alternates includes a faithful recreation of the 1943 Homestead Grays uniforms, with the navy version of the 1945 cap. Much like the 2007 throwbacks, they use the 1976-82 White Sox number font.3 I used Josh Gibson's number 20 for the model. The other uniform is a creme version of the New Orleans/Denver Pirates’ Roberto Clemente Day set. The primary jacket features the full striping pattern, while the Grays outerwear uses a normally-arched wordmark. The script appears on the Pirates-style jacket. While Washington D.C. should never have been without baseball (the Orioles don’t count, Peter Angelos - a name we’ll be hearing more from soon), it shouldn’t have been at the expense of another market. Still, the Grays-based identity could produce a fantastic look. C+C is appreciated, as always! Up next, the new (AL) Nats get a bit cartoon-ish. 1 Associated Press, “Some Pirates Pleased About Potential Move,” San Francisco Chronicle, August 9, 1985, sec. Sports; Craig Neff, “The Pirates Are Strictly The Pits,” Sports Illustrated, September 9, 1985. 2 Peter Schmuck, “Owners Try to Prevent Pirate Move - Baltimore Sun,” The Baltimore Sun, September 14, 1995, https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1995-09-14-1995257160-story.html. 3 William F. Henderson, Game Worn Guide to MLB Jerseys: (1970–2017), Eighth (Philadelphia, PA: Aardvark Publishing, 2017), 1918, 3431.
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    Lawsuit Can Proceed for Owners of St Louis Rams Merchandise

    Besides, did you guys really want to fork over taxpayer money for the Rams?
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    Wanna go for a swim in the hydration chamber? ICS - if Dean Corll targeted vermin instead of young boys.
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    MLB | Colorado Rockies Brand Refresh

    I'm not particularly bullish on it. The font isn't all that much of an improvement over what they have now (it looks rather generic), the black feels a little unnecessary to the design (I kind of wish you'd drop it completely), and the "C" has a bit too much overlap with the Cubs' insignia. Maybe a slab-serif font and adding a slab serif to the "C" (evoking the Colorado flag without completely emulating it) would be a good direction. I'd also recommend using grey or light blue as a secondary instead of black. You've got a good start with the mountain/ball design, but I think it needs some significant revisions.
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    2019 MLB Changes

    The files seem to have gotten a correction, at least from my last Miller Park trip.
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    Mid-season Uniform/Logo Changes

    You know, if the Penguins played anywhere else in the US or Canada, double blue would be perfect for them (with black/yellow-gold as a close second).
  24. Thanks! The powder blue trim came from my desire to diversify the navy/red teams' color balances/schemes. I figured it'd make an excellent accent color. I'm thinking of experimenting with a simplified feather at some point. Thank you so much, guys! Thanks! I'm surprised at how well brown/yellow works for them, even though I prefer navy/yellow and royal/yellow. That might be an interesting idea down the line, but I'd worry about infringing on the football team. Anyway, it's time to climb the mountain! SEATTLE RAINIERS (FORMER CLEVELAND INDIANS) - The Mountain Tribe Yes, this is one that was totally news to me! Much like the Reds, Ohio’s other team considered moving out west. The team’s turn towards mediocrity following the 1954 World Series had a significant hit on attendance. By 1963, reports said that the team was losing money, upwards of $1 million. Since the team’s lease at the Mistake by the Lake was due to expire in 1964, several cities investigated the opportunity.1 While Atlanta, Dallas, and Oakland expressed their desirability as relocation options, it was Seattle that made the biggest push. Gabe Paul, the Indians’ majority owner/GM (even though William Daley was team chairman), made it clear that Seattle was the relocation favorite. His friendship with Pacific Coast League President Dewey Soriano also helped Seattle’s chances. However, Paul also prompted the city of Cleveland to step up their efforts in keeping the team (e.g., ticket sales, negotiation of a better lease, etc.). Even though the odds were in Seattle’s favor (a UPI story even said that the move was inevitable), the Cleveland Growth Board’s ticket drives had almost hit their targets (4,500 season tickets), while Cleveland mayor Ralph Locher and various civic groups drummed up support. That was enough for the team’s directors to stay put, especially after the city promised to give them extensive stadium upgrades (e.g., refurbished seats and bathrooms, a new clubhouse, etc.) and a cheaper rate. Cleveland would keep its team, while Seattle would have to wait a few years.2 (Images of the competing efforts, one from the MYNorthwest article and the other from this Did the Tribe Win Last Night? article) Of course, Seattle had significant issues with their stadium. The Rainier Beer Company owned Sick’s Stadium at the time. Paul made it clear that the Indians would only come if the stadium got an expansion to 25,000 seats. Efforts were underway to invest in stadium expansions or for the city to buy the stadium (as they did in 1966 for the Pilots). With more time for construction, the venue may have been more successful than it was for the 1969 Pilots. However, it’d still be a temporary venue at best. So, if the Indians did move, it’d be a bit of a mess.3 But what if Seattle performed the Sick’s Stadium expansion and Cleveland decided not to give into the blackmail? What if the Seattle Indians existed? Well, the team was amid a mediocre period at the time. I don’t see that changing much in Seattle. Added travel time and the temporary venue wouldn’t improve matters, while the Down in a Hole Dome would probably make things worse. I could see them getting involved in the Tampa Bay Sweepstakes, with Nintendo stepping in again to keep them around and build SoDo Field. Of course, this leaves the question of the team’s identity. I don’t doubt that the team would keep the Indians name/Chief Wahoo upon moving (Heck, look at the uniforms they wore in the early-mid 1960s), the move to the Kingdome would probably prompt a redesign akin to the 1970s/‘80s Indianapolis Indians. While the team may have reverted to Chief Wahoo in 1987, I reasoned that both the name and Wahoo would be gone when Nintendo bought the team. Nintendo of America would have realized that: Both the name and logo set had the stink of decades-long failure on them The locale needed a more locally-relevant name than “Indians” (even though the PCL Rainiers used to use that name)4 The team would become the Rainiers (after dealing with Rainier Beer for trademarks), shedding navy in favor of Forest Green, for a “vintage Pacific Northwest” aesthetic. Think Tacoma Rainiers-meets-classic Rainiers-meets-1948 Cleveland Indians. The primary logo features the eponymous volcano (traced from this image with details from the Mariners’ 30th Anniversary patch) and the team script (a modernization of several Seattle and Cleveland designs). Said script is a combination of Fenway Park JF and Beaverton Script, while the lettering is Market Deco. The secondary is the cap logo, while the tertiary features the volcano/insignia/founding dates (AL founding, move to Seattle, and renaming). Home and road uniforms are a modern take on the 1948 Cleveland designs, albeit with dark green replacing navy. The cursive script is on the home uniform, while a “Seattle” wordmark (arranged like the 1939 Rainiers’ home design) appears on the road. The alternates include both red and dark green tops. The red jersey has a matching “R” cap and red accessories (like the 1955 Rainiers), while also using the tertiary on the sleeve. The red cap and accessories appear with the home uniform (a more direct 1955 tribute), while the Larry Doby Day uniform from my Cleveland concept returns. I redid the patch to fit with the Rainiers’ identity. I figured it’d be the best way to honor the team’s time in Cleveland. The jacket highlights the striping/co-dominance of Forest Green and Rainier Red, while featuring the “Seattle” wordmark. The Larry Doby Day throwback has a recreation of the 1948 jacket, without the Sambo-style racist caricature. While I’m glad that Cleveland stayed, I wouldn’t be entirely opposed to this relocation (as long as Cleveland got an expansion team not named “Indians”). Still, it’s good that Seattle got their chance through expansion. C+C is appreciated, as always! Up next, we investigate DC’s post-Padres attempts to land a team. 1 Feliks Banel, “The Cleveland Indians Almost Moved to Seattle,” MyNorthwest, November 2, 2016, http://mynorthwest.com/443430/the-cleveland-indians-almost-moved-to-seattle/; David Bohmer, “Cleveland Indians Team Ownership History | Society for American Baseball Research,” SABR - Society for American Baseball Research, January 2, 2018, https://sabr.org/research/cleveland-indians-team-ownership-history; Bob Toth, “Tribe Was Talk of Town as Browns Kicked Off ’64 Season,” Did The Tribe Win Last Night? (blog), September 13, 2015, http://didthetribewinlastnight.com/blog/2015/09/13/tribe-was-talk-of-town-as-browns-kicked-off-64-season/; Bob Toth, “That Time the Tribe Nearly Moved to Seattle,” Did The Tribe Win Last Night? (blog), September 20, 2015, http://didthetribewinlastnight.com/blog/2015/09/20/that-time-the-tribe-nearly-moved-to-seattle/. 2 Banel, “The Cleveland Indians Almost Moved to Seattle”; Toth, “That Time the Tribe Nearly Moved to Seattle.” 3 Banel, “The Cleveland Indians Almost Moved to Seattle.” 4 Author's note: I doubt that the Japanese branch of Nintendo would have much problem with the name or Wahoo. There is a long history of Japan appropriating western conceptions of race and racial caricatures, often unaware of their outside perception. It appears in both innocuous forms (e.g., Mr. Popo in the original Dragon Ball manga/anime - Funimation/Viz toned him down, as well as this clip from Super Rescue Solbrain about police brutality - no black gaijin actors were willing, apparently) and horrific atrocities (read War Without Mercy by John Dower for more information). Still, Nintendo of America probably had a bit more say/sense of the market to justify a name change, especially when considering the "tenuous" relationship the city of Seattle has with the local indigenous communities.