VancouverFan69

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  1. VancouverFan69

    Seattle NHL Brand Discussion

    I would substitute the teal with Kelly green and make the red and black secondaries. Another Blackhawks copycat look, with teal or no teal, is going to ruin Seattle's chance of being distinctive and unique.
  2. VancouverFan69

    Seattle NHL Brand Discussion

    How about a forest green base(like Minnesota's) with yellow-gold/or/metallic gold and red?
  3. VancouverFan69

    Seattle NHL Brand Discussion

    Not too dark in which the green is almost black. More like the Minnesota Wild's forest green or the Boston Celtics' dark Kelly green. In the age of HD television, a good uniform should be able to stand out. That's why I love the Golden Knights' uniforms - that steel grey base with metallic gold and black look so good. Green should be the primary. As for the red, I would hope for an orangey-red or the same light shade that the Carolina Hurricanes use as a secondary.
  4. VancouverFan69

    Seattle NHL Brand Discussion

    I wonder if Seattle goes with earth-tone green & red/orange?
  5. VancouverFan69

    Seattle NHL Brand Discussion

    Red and black will only be acceptable if the primary is all-green.
  6. VancouverFan69

    Seattle NHL Brand Discussion

    If the "Seattle Sockeyes" were a green and orangey-red team, they would blend in nicely with the other Seattle teams while standing out on their own. The Seahawks and Mariners are both navy but the neon green and teal separate the two teams. The Sounders wear earthy light "rave" green with powder "Sounder" blue, separating the them from both the Seahawks current and retro royal blue & Kelly green. The SuperSonics and vintage Mariners wore yellow-gold as a secondary. Therefore, orangey-red would separate the NHL team from the other teams, including the future SuperSonics 2.0 with both wearing green primary darks.
  7. VancouverFan69

    NHL 2018-19

    @SFGiants58, thank you. It's all good. I worded it wrong but when Ice-Cap mentioned "mainstream pop culture" in relation to the Kings' black & silver, that's what I was getting at. Thanks again. Cheers and peace.
  8. VancouverFan69

    NHL 2018-19

    You forgot to mention the Flyers in the late 90's when their black alternates became their primary darks. The initial red & black look did look sharp. However, the black started to take over with the Labour Day jerseys and eventually the black away helmets and home black pants. The red & silver look were as much the Stamps as dark green and yellow-gold are the Eskimos. The Lions had brown as trimming on their '78-'89 set. It was dark brown on the uniforms but lighter in shade on merchandise.
  9. VancouverFan69

    Seattle NHL Brand Discussion

    I want to hope that red is only being used as an attention grabber to Seattle's expansion franchise. It does make the NHL's black & silver shield pop meaning "The NHL is coming to Seattle!" I always preferred Totems and Emeralds but Sockeyes has grown on me. I prefer it over Steelheads. Sockeyes isn't just a reflection of the actual fish but also Seattle's sockeye industry, including the flying sockeye at Pike's Market. Here's what I'm hoping for in case Sockeyes is indeed chosen: 1. Green is the primary colour and orangey red is the secondary with touches of black or navy blue. The green & red look would be a tribute to the Metropolitans. 2. A Native art-styled sockeye as the main crest. Would make a fine tribute to the old WHL Totems and to PNW Indigenous history. I think Seattle and PNW hockey fans would be in agreement here.
  10. VancouverFan69

    NHL 2018-19

    Teams that came out with black from the get-go as a primary or secondary got it right. The Senators and Lightning look great in black and need to return to that base. The black on the Sharks' original looked great with the lighter teal. It's teams ditching their long-time and distinctive colours just to "keep up with the Joneses" that were the problem. I never blamed the Raiders nor the Bulls in the first place. Their colours were always their looks. The CFL has also been infested by the BFBS movement. The BC Lions had a classic look throughout the 80's with their burnt orange and white with brown trim. Though black was also their primary in the 60's and secondary in the 70's, copying the Raiders' black & silver in '90 was a big no-no. The Stampeders had a beautiful red & silver look. No team in football nor in sports owned that look. Since their introduction of black, their look has been a mess ever since.
  11. VancouverFan69

    NHL 2018-19

    Here's my perspective on teams that have two well-respected colour schemes in their own right. I do feel that both colour schemes can be embraced as part of the same brand - one as a primary home & away set and the other as a third or as throwbacks for several games per season. The Mariners regularly use their original royal blue and yellow-gold as a weekly throwback, using the current brand. Even during their dark ages, long-time fans loved those colours as they were based on the old Seattle Pilots. Many, many Canucks fans yearn for a full-time return to the Pavel Bure-era black, yellow and red Skate uniforms. It's the same generation that grew up with the Gretzky-era black and silver. The Canucks did the right thing by going back to their original royal blue and Kelly green look. However, even if there's a future green alternate, the '94 black Skate uniform should be worn 2-4 times annually because it was the look when the club finally became a winner. As for the Kings, I will admit defeat as black & silver has been LA's colours for 30 years, even with the purple in early Y2K. However, the Kings should use their original purple/Forum blue uniforms as a regular third. I just wish the current home plate logo gets ditched and the classic crown were on the front with a deeper shade of silver.
  12. VancouverFan69

    NHL 2018-19

    Okay, wrong choice of words in the context used. Before throwing unnecessary race cards at me, read the above comment by Ice_Cap. Absolutely NOTHING WRONG with hip hop culture in itself. No different than the disco culture of the late 70's. The problem is that the BFBS movement in hockey and in sports was that sports owners took colour away from their respective fans and wanted to cater their brands to non-hockey/sports fans who were into hip hop and gothic culture, mostly tèens and young adults. If one grew up in that society, one either had to wear and look the same or get outcasted. Race has NOTHING to do with it. It was the LA Raiders & Kings and the Chicago Bulls selling their respective black & silver and black & red brands. This pressured other sports owners, especially in hockey to "keep up with the Joneses". Before one knew it, colour was disappearing like no tomorrow.
  13. VancouverFan69

    NHL 2018-19

    Not the LA Raiders. The Raiders moved from Oakland to LA in '82. Teenage/early adult youths.
  14. VancouverFan69

    NHL 2018-19

    The Kings' switch to black and silver from their classic purple/Forum blue and yellow-gold was one of the worst rebrands for two reasons(and not because the black & silver are bad): 1. It cost the NHL its one and only purple team. 2. It caused the BFBS hip hop culture disease in pro sports, mostly in hockey. Gretzky would have looked great in an updated purple & yellow uniform like he did in Oilers royal blue & orange. The Kings could have gone back to arm trimless jerseys with white being the light colour. Think of the marketing ability of colour with star players in the 90's: Gretzky in Kings purple⚅ Yzerman in Red Wings red⚀ Lemieux in Penguins black Lindros in Flyers orange️ Messier in Rangers blue However, as I had mentioned in my previous post, the black, silver and white can look really good with the original Gretzky-era template but with the classic crown on the front. The Kings could still use their original purple uniforms as a third.
  15. VancouverFan69

    NHL 2018-19

    Actually, the black and silver can look really good if they had the classic crown on the the front with the Gretzky-era template. Original purple/Forum blue uniforms as a third.