Chromatic

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  1. Chromatic

    2018 CFL Uniforms

    To be fair, most old time children’s songs, fairy tales, etc are pretty messed up when you examine them closely.
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    Memphis Grizzlies Appear to be Tweaking Logos

    The bear still looks like it’s crying.
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    Blandest Uniforms in Modern History

    I do have an issue with using the term “bland” as a critique. It doesn’t really mean anything. It feels like something you say to describe a uniform you don’t like without actually having a reason for why it looks bad. One man’s “bland” is another’s “traditional”. I think context and history determines blandness a lot more than actual design.
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    Blandest Uniforms in Modern History

    These are just bland. To me “retina searingly ugly” is something garish and eye catching in the wrong way, like the wild wing or Flying V jerseys. These are just boring with a really stupid pattern.
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    Blandest Uniforms in Modern History

    The Leafs would look so much better if you put the new logo on these uniforms.
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    NHL 2018-19

    I'm not in the 'realistic duck' camp. As far as I'm concerned, a 90s expansion team named after a Disney movie has more right than anyone to have a cartoony logo
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    NHL 2018-19

    On the plus side, a mighty ducks jersey in black might become popular enough to supplant the current webbed D jerseys.
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    CFL to bid adieu to Adidas after this season (2018)

    What else would typically be supplied in a uniform deal?
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    Canadian Elite Basketball League

    These look like Create-A-Team logos in an EA game.
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    MLB by NIKE

    These are all fantastic. I’d love to give some more detailed feedback, but the only thing I can say is that you’ve managed to take every team’s core aesthetic and improve upon it. You’ve made some teams with bad identities look good, and teams with good identities look great.
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    NHL 2017-18

    Most people in Vancouver at least are aware of Orca Bay, but the critique there is not so much that the logo was too corporate, though that is commonly heard. What you usually hear is that when Orca Bay got the team and changed the logo it kicked off the most painful era in team history. Messier, Keenan etc. I remember going to games in 2006 when the Canucks wore their throwback stick in rinks not as alternates, but as second home and away jerseys. They were so popular everyone was sure they’d be returned to fulltime home and away jerseys once the Reebok change over happened. I have zero proof of this so I won’t try to claim it as fact, but I’m convinced keeping the orca and adding the “Vancouver” script was a ploy to sell merch during the upcoming olympics. It’s definitely a more “tourist friendly” logo for lack of a better term. Yes I’m aware of the historical precedence of the script, but imo it explains the copy pasted look a lot better.
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    NHL Alternates - Predictions and Wishlist (all teams posted)

    I love your wish list versions for Vancouver and Colorado. I’d be 100% on board if that’s what they went with. Washington is nice, but the pedant in me still gets by annoyed by a team called the “CAPITALS” using a lowercase script.
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    NHL 2017-18

    I would not want to even attempt to try and mimic the greatest sports logo in history. For real though, I always found it a little weird that they’d use the prey animal of their namesake, and that he’d be so darn jolly about getting skewered.
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    NHL 2017-18

    My issue with the Orca (design wise aside) is not that it doesn’t literally depict a Canuck, it’s that it embodies an entirely separate thing. It’s essentially misrepresenting it. To use your Bruins example, I don’t think the spoked B misrepresents the Bruins, but if they made a lobster their logo because Boston is in New England, then it would be.
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    NHL 2017-18

    No, I was talking about the Flyers logo you mentioned you said an 8 year old would find obvious, but I think confusing my description for Boston’s logo helps my point that you can arbitrarily deconstruct any logo and say it’s just some shapes and semiotically meaningless.
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    NHL 2017-18

    Right, just like there’s no semiotic value to a circle with some lines extending from it. In fact, I would argue that there is no semiotic value to a shape with other shapes. You can arbitrarily dissect a logo like that at any level of analysis. I’m able to make out a ‘C’, a hockey rink and a hockey stick, and it looks pretty obvious to me. And again, I’m not saying this is an amazing logo, just that it’s no more ‘bland’ than most “classics”.
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    NHL 2017-18

    If you want a good example of local PNW indigenous art style incorporated into a logo well, I'd look at the Seahawks logo. The problem with the Orca, is that it is for lack of a better term, a cluster:censored:. And that's without even touching the "colours don't match" and "a Canuck is not a whale" issues. Those are completely separate topics. There's just too much going on. It is, in my opinion, a poorly designed logo, plain and simple. The fact that the Orca is grounded in the 'C' completely throws the logo off. The Orca is clearly supposed to be aggressive and dynamic, conveying a sense of motion from left to right. The fact that it's constrained within a 'C' ruins that equilibrium and throws off that sense of motion. It makes the Orca look like its somersaulting. Also, cutting off what is supposed to be a wide field that would constitute a sheet of ice into the narrow field of the bottom half of a 'C' just looks weird. You can't tell what part of it is supposed to be up or down or foreground or background or anything, which I think is important when you're trying to make the whale look as if its moving forward. What ends up happening is the Orca looks like its being squeezed out like a tube of toothpaste. On top of that, there are so many levels of detail and minutia, like ice shards and fins that the fact its supposed to be a 'C' is lost. When you look at the logo, there is no focal point your eye is drawn to. Is it the Orca's face? Is it the 'VANCOUVER' script? Is it the 'C'? Is it the placental ice shards where the Orca is being birthed into the horrifying void of its existence? And when you do try to look at the logo on a macro level, it becomes an ugly blob vaguely shaped like a sideways horseshoe. The macro level is hurt again by the wordmark, as it not only has to shrink the logo down to incorporate the wordmark, but you have an extra element in the logo floating in the nether above it in a completely separate space. And as for the Stick In Rink, I agree, its not an amazing logo. But if we're being honest, if the Canucks had stuck with it since 1970 (like they should have), most of the people on here decrying it as "bland" and "boring" would call it an untouchable classic. I fail to see how its any more bland than the Canadiens, Flyers, Oilers, etc. It has more negative space than most logos, but the only missing ingredient between the Stick In Rink and other classics is time. I look at it like the original Bruins spoked 'B' or the Orioles smiling bird. The design is there, it just needs a little polish every now and then to keep it looking current. Johnny's charming, but I think he works best as a secondary/tertiary logo.
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    NHL 2018-19

    So the black storm flag jerseys are pretty much confirmed then. I wonder if they’ll be tweaking them at all
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    NHL 2017-18

    There certainly are similarities, but plenty of differences too. Look at the faces for an example. And for the record no, I don’t think the Islanders fisherman looks “overly 90s”. When I think of a 90s logo I think of something more along the lines of the Piston’s horse head logo or the original Panthers logo. If anything, as far as stylistically and how they’re rendered, Johnny and the fisherman remind me more of what you’d see from a modern AAA baseball club than a 90s hockey team. I don’t even think the fisherman is as terrible everyone makes it out to be. It’s not great, but it’s not an abomination like the Flying V. It just happens to be associated with fish sticks. Stop with the “if you feel this way about X you MUST feel this way about Y” stuff.
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    NHL 2017-18

    Johnny is certainly cartoony, but he doesn't look "90's" to me at all.
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    NHL 2017-18

    To be fair, last time they tried this they ended up with the abomination that was the flying Vs and kicked off the whole identity crisis. The Canucks brand motto should be ‘keep it simple, stupid’. They have all the pieces of a great identity, they just can’t execute. The current striping is just fine. They have easily one of the best colour schemes in the league. The only thing holding them back is the logos, but if they get the SIR and Johnny to work right, they’re all set.
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    Unpopular Opinions

    I actually wouldn’t be opposed to the gold pants with the white jersey, but it looks terrible with the purple.
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    Staten Island Yankees now the... Pizza Rats?!

    Sounds like they tried to come up with the most stereotypically “New York” name possible.
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    NHL 2017-18

    Proper professional team crest? It looks like the logo of a jr B lacrosse team called the “Canuxx” that was both founded and folded in the mid 90s. The stick and rink looks like a classic logo that’s been modified to fit it’s era, like so many other logos that are beloved here. And calling a logo ‘bland’ is just a meaningless buzzword.
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    NHL 2017-18

    This is exactly what they need to do. The only suggestion I'd make would be having the black skate as the third. It would shut up all the people waxing nostalgia over going back to those jerseys. The whole fanbase gets to have their cake and eat it.