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  1. I stumbled on these two styles of NBA hats made by '47 Brand, most of which have logos I hadn't seen before (and don't seem to appear on most teams' pages on the mothership): https://www.lids.com/47-brand/style_nba-mash-up-47-mvp-cap?page=1 https://www.lids.com/47-brand/style_nba-mash-up-47-clean-up-cap I'm wondering where these logos came from - the league, the teams, the manufacturer? Are they non-canonical? Some of them I kind of like, and they all seem to at least be executed well and with an understanding of the team's overall branding.
  2. Fun With Flags!!!!

    I'm a Charlottean by marriage, and I've become a fan of the crown over the years I've been visiting. At first, I thought it was kind of dated and corporate, like Uptown Charlotte. But it really grew on me (along with the city) and I appreciate it as an ahead-of-its time, iconic work of urban branding that has and will continue to have longevity. The tourism board rebranded last year, and incorporated a version of the crown into the logos: I think they could definitely do more with the flag - something like the above to give it some contrast or dimension, or a pattern or design added to it would maybe would loosen it up a bit. I totally agree with you about the color of the flag. Charlotteans seem to identify with teal from rooting for the Hornets and Panthers, so maybe this is a tail wags the dog scenario where the city adopts the sports team colors.
  3. Political Logos

    A discussion of the merits of the logos, typefaces, signage, etc. of the candidates for the 2016 United States Presidential election, and not a discussion of the merits of the candidates themselves. -- With the entrance of the first declared candidate for the 2016 Presidential election, we have our first official campaign logo: It is already being compared to an upside-down burning flag, the Tinder logo, and a prison tattoo.
  4. 2018 FIFA World Cup

    This runs up against the problem of using national colors as stripes; you end up evoking the Iranian flag (or North Rhine-Westphalia if you want to get obscure) on the Mexican jersey.
  5. I'd only been following this from the Brooklyn side so I didn't know about his back history with the fans from even before the move. It's hard to blame them for being leery of him after that. I'm still split on whether a perfect union of the Islanders and Brooklyn was ever possible even if some of the decisions had been handled differently. Certainly they messed things up, but it's hard to envision a realistic scenario where it's 2018 and Islanders fans feel at home and Brooklynites are at least beginning to identify with them.
  6. I agree that a portion of the blame should fall on him, and I wish I'd touched on that in my post, as well has the way he phrased his comments to make it seem like it all just passively happened. I'm not sure how much of it was a fundamentally untenable situation with no good solutions, or how much of it was about the strategy he oversaw and executed, but he does need to own it, if for no other reason than that's what people with power/responsibility should do when things go bad. I hope I didn't give off the impression that I resented the Long Island fans at the games or the fun they were having. I've enjoyed the environment they create at the games I've gone to (except on weeknights when people don't make the trip in from the Island and the arena is DEAD except for pockets of visiting fans). For me, it just felt being dropped into a party where I didn't know anyone, and everyone else had been friends for decades and had their own language and common history that was foreign to me. It was fun, but in the way it's fun to go to a game in another city you're visiting. I don't know if pushing Brooklyn harder would've been a more successful strategy for them, and I don't know what it would have even entailed. Who knows if anything would have truly alienated a significant number of Long Island fans, or if they'd eventually get used to and go along with it because it was better than Quebec/Kansas Cities. It takes a long time to build a new fanbase anyway, even if they weren't going up against the the Rangers' generational equity. And very significant portion of the Barclays is not a good place to watch hockey, and that also has to come into play. I also agree about his snark toward the new arena, which gratuitously unconstructive and and unnecessary.
  7. Staying in the tri-state area, Brett Yomark has some thoughts on his soon-to-be-former tenant: https://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islanders/islanders-brett-yormark-1.16958293 I can see his point, but I don't see the point in actually saying it out loud, especially with an indefinite number of years remaining in their relationship. It was an awkward arrangement from the beginning, even without factoring in the Barclays Center's massive deficiencies as a hockey venue. Yomark's team took over marketing for the Isles, and had to preemptively declare that they wouldn’t be adding Brooklyn to the depiction of Long Island on the logo, and then abandon the new goal horn they developed as an homage to the LIRR linking Brooklyn to the rest of the island. From that point on, it doesn’t seem like they were ever able to figure out how to change the game experience or the way the team was packaged to attract new fans from Brooklyn while still placating the Long Island fans who loudly demanded continuity with their traditions and culture. Contrast that with the Nets, where the same marketing department felt almost no need to preserve any continuity with their history and fans in New Jersey and got to work from a nearly clean slate to build their identity and connect with their new fanbase. You could feel it at the arena. I went to a few Islanders games as a very, very, very casual hockey fan curious to check out the team playing in my borough, and they felt like total Long Island invasions. The culture and traditions of the fans seemed fun and it was a decent environment, but it was like an impenetrable inside joke we weren’t a part of, and there wasn’t a lot for me to connect to or identify with. It seems like the only thing that worked from this shotgun wedding were the black alternate jerseys, which you see a lot of fans wearing at the games. I wonder what would have happened if Yomark had been able to make whatever changes he thought could get more Brooklyn/NYC fans. Would the Long Islanders have grumbled for a while, then gotten used to it? Or was this whole thing doomed from the start, regardless?
  8. Fun With Flags!!!!

    When the unified Korean team enters the Olympic opening ceremony, they'll be using the Korean Peninsula flag, as they did in 2006:
  9. Agreed - it also makes it easier local fans who might be put off by the parent club (particularly in the case of a polarizing team like the Yankees) to buy in to their hometown team. A Tampa resident who wants a local minor league team to pull for, but isn't fond of the Yankees, might have trouble getting on board with a team that looks like this:
  10. The Tampa Yankees are now the Tampa Tarpons: A great step toward making the Yankees farm system more interesting, identity-wise.
  11. https://vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2017/09/vtnews-intro-main.html Virginia Tech has introduced its new school logo, which is very much inspired by the athletic logo but also is not replacing the similar athletic logo: Brand New has a good breakdown here: https://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/new_logo_for_virginia_tech.php
  12. 2018 FIFA World Cup

    Is there some kind of FIFA regulation that all crests have to have some kind of English on it (or at least have something spelled out in the Latin alphabet)? It's weird to me when a crest or uniform representing a country and its people doesn't have any representation of the language that at least a plurality of its people use on an everyday basis, and is part of their country's culture, history, and heritage (or has it subordinate to another language like Israel's crest). That said, I like the improvements to the rendering of the crow, and I'd love to see them use it without the shield the way Liverpool does.
  13. NBA Changes 2017-18

    GLeague Icon (are they doing that too?) jerseys revealed:
  14. Football and CTE

    Mass hysteria, no, but there's more than enough information out there about the effects of playing football at every level for people to act on it, from active NFL players to the parents of young athletes.
  15. Football and CTE

    I don't know if the alternative is any better, but it feels like it'd be a damaging long-term decision for the NFL to go on record in a court of law pinning a severe, high-profile, and tragic (for all parties involved) CTE case on its feeder system. The headline parents would see coming out of the trial, regardless of how the case itself is resolved, would be "NFL: Youth Football Causes CTE."
  16. Football and CTE

    I had the same reaction to the lawsuit initially, but reading this breakdown piqued my interest in the way the suit could unfold, rather than the end result. There are a few interesting scenarios that could play out, including the NFL/Patriots having to consider throwing youth football under the bus to save themselves from having to surrender damning documents and put Goodell on the witness stand.
  17. Football and CTE

    Aaron Hernandez was found to have had had "such a severe form of the degenerative brain disease C.T.E. that the damage was akin to that of players well into their 60s" despite only being 27 when he took his own life earlier this year. Dan Wetzel has a good piece on Yahoo! exploring the likelihood that a lot of this damage occurred in Pop Warner and High School given his short collegiate and professional career and the trajectory and timing of his personal decline.
  18. 2017/18 Soccer Kits

    I don't think this was picked up in here at the time, but Sweden changed their crest in March (link is in Swedish). It looks like the SvFF logo will represent the federation, while the teams will wear the one that says Sverige. New Federation, Team crests: Old:
  19. NBA Changes 2017-18

    First look at the Nets: At least the poorly cut-off trim distracts from the sponsor patch!
  20. NBA G-League Still Needs to Expand

    Wizards make it official: https://wizardstoday.monumentalsportsnetwork.com/2017/06/21/washington-wizards-purchase-nba-g-league-team
  21. Hawaiian Airlines has updated their logo and livery: New Livery: Old Livery: Logo history:
  22. 2017/18 Soccer Kits

    Subjectively, I'd take every primary kit and about half of the away/change kits they got from UA over these (with the caveat that we haven't seen the actual jerseys yet). Aesthetics aside, I'd rather have hit-or-miss jerseys designed specifically for the team over consistently dull jerseys that look the same as half the clubs and national teams in the world. To me, these templates emphasize the manufacturer's identity over the team's.
  23. 2017/18 Soccer Kits

    I had months to prepare myself to be underwhelmed by a bland, templated jersey, and yet I was somehow still disappointed by this. I hope the cash upgrade from Under Armour to Nike is enough to help keep the team on the field growing together, but it's a shame* that this "upgrade" comes at the cost of the (by-and-large) quality, bespoke designs they received as UA's premiere franchise. * A very, very small shame compared to having to sell off this fun team of talented, young players.
  24. Political Logos

    Just saw this on Twitter from a Montana congressional race - it's not perfect, but I thought it was refreshingly different from other candidate logos: The way his name is written reminds me of the kind of treatment you'd see for a band name on a 70's rock album cover.
  25. A New Look for New York's buses

    Renderings for the next generation of subway cars also incorporate the same colors: