Ferdinand Cesarano

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  1. Wasn't he probably referring to Manhattan Island...? I suppose that's one possible reading. But the chorus mentions natural features, not man-made ones. Let us realise that, at the time the song was written, Long Island did not evoke thoughts of suburban nowheresville as it does now; at that time, Long Island was still largely undeveloped, and was "out in the country". I think that this is the imagery being invoked in the lyrics that go on to mention "redwood forests" and "Gulf Stream waters".
  2. You can make the case for some, but Colorado Rockies sounds much better than Denver Rockies. The issue there is that "Colorado Rockies" was a phrase long before the baseball team (or the hockey team) adopted it. Likewise "Texas Rangers" and "Florida Panthers". I also favour city names over state names; but in those cases, the nicknames were chosen specifically to pair with the state names, so those teams would require different nicknames if they had city locality names. Here is a wildcard: the New York Islanders. That's right -- the "New York" there refers to the state! The nickname and logo show that the team does not aim to represent New York City (notwithstanding the fact that it currently plays its home games in New York City). What's more, the term "the New York island" to refer to Long Island dates at least to the 1940s and Woody Guthrie's song "This Land Is Your Land"; and in that reference, "New York" clearly means the state. The nickname is crucial here. If the team had any other nickname, one could make the argument that "New York" refers to New York City, and that the team is simply located outside the City's borders. There are certainly plenty of examples of this phenomenon in all sports, particularly the New York Nets, the New York Arrows (MISL), and the New York Dragons (Arena Football League), all of which played at the same arena where the Islanders used to play. But the "Islanders" nickname precludes this possibility. For an informative comparison, let's imagine the existence of the demonym "Orangites" for residents of Orange County in California. A team there could conceivably be called the "California Orangites"; but it would not be called the "Los Angeles Orangites", because the nickname "Orangites" specifically excludes Los Angeles. However, an Orange County-based team with any other nickname could use "Los Angeles" as its locality name, on the grounds that it is located near that city despite not being within the city's limits, examples being the Los Angeles Angels, the Los Angeles Rams (after 1980), and the Los Angeles Kiss (Arena Football). While "Islanders" is a good nickname, my discomfort with a state locality name, combined with the weirdness of one team with the "New York" name referring to the state when it refers for all other teams to the City, has always made me wish that the team had been called the "Long Island (somethings)" instead. The other interesting case is the New Jersey Devils. While most teams that have played in New Jersey were New York City teams that just happened to be located outside the City's limits, and so could on those grounds have been called "New York", the Devils are different on two grounds: 1) the team has no history or roots in New York (apart from superfan David Puddy), and was put in New Jersey specifically to appeal to New Jersey fans; 2) the name is based on an existing phrase, as the "Jersey Devil" is some sort of monster according to the local yokels' folklore. So that team would never have existed as a "New York" team. Another possibility would have been the name of New Jersey's biggest city, Newark. But the sad fact (explainable only by acknowledging the reality of racism, if we're honest) is that the name "Newark" would have been a turnoff to most of the New Jersey fans whom the NHL was targeting. In light of all this, and despite the fact that the Devils currently play in Newark, I am inclined to give that team a pass on its state locality name.
  3. This shows that sleeved jerseys for basketball are nothing new. Another team that had sleeved basketball jerseys were the Cincinnati Reds, shown first in their uniforms, and then in their warmups. It's cool that these teams have put such good effort into creating basketball uniforms. By contrast, the Islanders' softball uniforms were pretty cheesy. The Islanders and Rangers used to play softball against each other every year. Surprisingly, there are almost no pictures of this to be found.
  4. I mentioned recently that I was listening to the radio call of the first game that the Giants played back at the Polo Grounds, on June 1, 1962. Here's Willie Mays entering the field from the centrefield stairs that led to the clubhouses. For that game, the Giants' players -- and only the Giants' players -- were introduced individually on the field. They all got a big hand, even the players who had never played in New York, such as Willie McCovey. The biggest ovation went of course to Mays (though it was sprinkled with boos, because Mays had been involved the previous week in a fight with Mets' shortstop Elio Chacon). The attendance was well in excess of 40,000, or about four times the Mets' average. In the first months of their first season, the Mets still had no real identity; they hadn't even become the lovable losers yet. So the crowd cheered more for the Giants than the Mets. On a tangentially related note, I just read a great book called Bottom of the Ninth by Michael Shapiro. It's an odd book, ostensibly about Branch Rickey and Casey Stengel. The two of them don't interact; the book looks separately at the formation of the Continental League and at the Yankees' 1960 season. The most interesting part of the book is the former; I learnt more about Bill Shea than I had ever known. And the cast of characters includes Yankee owner Del Webb, Commissioner Ford Frick, A.L. President Joe Cronin, columnist Dan Daniel, and even some AFL owners, as the Continental Leagus's Denver interest was originally controlled by Bob Howsam, who founded the AFL's Broncos. But it is in the narration of the Yankees' season that I found the very interesting mention of the fact that, in 1960, recreations of the Giants' games were still being done on radio in New York. This was the third and final season of these broadcasts, which were broadcast over WINS by Les Keiter. So fans of the New York Giants really held on to their team after the move, right up through 1962, when the team's first appearances as visitors at the Polo Grounds served as a kind of passing of the torch to the Mets.
  5. Better than the Nets.
  6. I suppose that that's better than what the Cosmos are doing. But City went a little too nuts with their road shirts last year, with the concentric circles. I fear that they are keeping that jersey for this season. (They've worn the sky blue in all three games so far this year.) They got the road kit right the first season. (And Jeb got his mustache right!) They should not have changed from that.
  7. Oh, come on!
  8. It's nice that they seem to be going back to wearing white shirts at home. But that blue shirt with the green dots is ridiculous. (Though the socks are very nice.) And the keeper's jersey is just goofy. Also, the fact that it's a team colour is very strange. Better that the keeper's shirt should be a solid colour that is not a team colour, like red or orange.
  9. This is incorrect. The team name was never "Minnesota Twin Cities". Calvin Griffith wanted to name the team the "Twin Cities Twins", and devised the TC logo in keeping with that plan. The American League refused to allow the locality name "Twin Cities", but let Griffith keep the TC cap even after he agreed to change the locality name to "Minnesota". The notion that the TC monogram stands for an abandoned locality name is historical fact. And it is this historical fact that serves as the basis for my contention that the TC logo does not belong on the cap. The TC logo was on the sleeve of the Twins' best uniforms; and it was fine there, where it functioned as a secondary logo. Also, both letters were visible, unlike on the cap. So the sleeve placement was better for a couple of reasons.
  10. Hess has plenty to do with the Jets, as the company's founder, Leon Hess, was the Jets' owner for several decades until his death.
  11. You must have missed out on Pakistan's uniforms. I suppose that I am just most disappointed in Great Britain. Before the last tournament, they announced a hat with a nice interlocking GB logo. But then they never used it, and instead wore a cap with this nothing design: But I guess it's no worse than the other qualifiers' caps.
  12. Ooo, you're so close. Make it the button-down version: ...and then you've got something.
  13. OK, let's not be too flippant about this. "Why is this so hard to comprehend?", you ask? Here's why: First, if the ultimate goal is to end up with royal and yellow, then moving to navy and white seems like a step away from that. "Navy/gold" --> "navy/white" --> "royal yellow" is a pretty weird trajectory. So the move to navy and white sows doubt about whether the team will ever wind up back in its true L.A. uniforms. Second, there's this league rule about uniforms. The question will always linger: why didn't the Rams just break the rule? What's the worst the league could do? Deploy armed men to prevent the team from taking the field? No. The league would just fine the Rams. Big deal. Pay the damn fine each week; and be heroes to your fans. If the Raiders can move without league approval, the Rams could have worn royal and yellow without league approval. But they chose not to take this action. On account of the foregoing, the Rams' current uniform creates confusion. Above all, if the Rams really intend to adopt the classic royal and yellow uniforms in 2019, they could issue a straightforward, unequivocal statement right now that says "we will be adopting the classic royal and yellow uniforms in 2019". But they have not done this. So the reason that people keep asking questions about the Rams' uniforms is that the Rams themselves are promoting uncertainty.
  14. A couple of people have mentioned this as a supposed contradiction. But let me point out that the current road script which elicited my complaint about the disconnected underline is in cursive. Cursive letters are made out of one continuous stroke (more or less, if you discount crossed T's and dotted I's). So in this case the underline feels like it should be a continuation of that one stroke; it feels like it should be a tail connected to the A. The failure to make this connection makes me itch. Whereas, the 1987 home wordmark is not cursive; so there's nothing for the tail to connect to. The letters are all separate strokes; and the underline is just an additional stroke which gives the whole wordmark balance. For this reason, that underline strikes me as just a design element, and an attractive one at that.
  15. I follow the reasoning; but I don't like the thinking behind it. There has never been a baseball uniform script with a paint-stroke font. Meanwhile, the Old English lettering is as traditional as you can get in baseball. China's use of this very traditional baseball look sends the right message; it implies that they are taking this game seriously, that they are in baseball to stay. If they had gone out there wearing a very un-baseball-like script, just because the font looked sort-of Chinesey, that would have struck the wrong note, and would have undercut the team's legitimacy. Also, I don't go for the idea that this look is a bad match for China. If it's a beautiful look (as you acknowledge), then it suits anyone who has the good taste to adopt it. Likewise, I reject the idea that the Tampa Bay Lightning's dignified uniforms are good, but not good for them. Both looks rank near the top in their sports; and the act of adopting those looks is in each case a conscious act designed to be a statement of ambition. But I agree fully with your off-handed criticism of the Great Britain team. That team should indeed be using Old English lettering. Unfortunately, no team put less effort into their uniforms and caps than did the blokes from Old Blighty. And it is impossible to avoid taking that as a hint about their level of commitment to the sport. China did the opposite of Britain, so deserve high praise.