Ferdinand Cesarano

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  1. Los Angeles Chargers Brand Discussion

    I see. Well, that makes sense. Anyway, please note that I acknowledge that I know nothing about your part of the country, and have not expressed any doubt about your descriptions of the differences, cultural and otherwise, amongst the various regions of Southern California. My only point was that a fan can watch the Chargers every week on television, as he/she did before, and can take comfort in the same uniforms, the same players, and the same coach. Call it "living in a fantasy world" if you like; but all of sports fandom involves fantasy to some degree. Also, you can't dispute my point about playing the "long game", about supporting the Chargers in the hopes that they will return. The Rams are back in Los Angeles because the team's owner saw that a significant number of their L.A. fans remained loyal. The Chargers are going to flop badly at the gate in L.A.; so their coming back to San Diego is not at all impossible. Therefore, it makes sense to maximise that possibility by staying on board with them. Maybe. I was in the tiny minority who still loved New York in the late 1970s; and I am in a few other tiny minorities, as well. Also, I admit that I have developed a bit of a "thing" for Philly over the past few years, ever since I made my first bike trip there. Their bike lanes are bountiful, and are distributed all throughout the city. Also, the drivers are much more polite and less aggressive than the animals who incompetently pilot automobiles in New York. Anyway, going on distance alone, Philadelphia, despite being a separate city with its own identity, feels like it's in my back yard. So, if my team moved there and changed nothing else, I really think that I could handle it.
  2. Los Angeles Chargers Brand Discussion

    You said that. And I'm telling you that it's abject nonsense. Ah, yes; I did say "cultural rivalry". Oops! It was a poor choice of words, because I didn't mean to suggest that people were claiming that New Jersey was superior in terms of the arts. I meant to express what I said later: that the consensus was that New York City was past it, that visiting for a Broadway show was all well and good, but no one wanted to live there, and, what's more, that banks and financial firms, perhaps even the stock market, were eager to get out. Of course, I never subscribed to this view; but, in the late 1970s, I was in the distinct minority, whereas nowadays my loving view of my city is the predominant one.
  3. Los Angeles Chargers Brand Discussion

    No one ever made the argument that New Jersey was culturally superior. But perceptions of New York City's crime (perceptions which had a kernel of truth in them, but were grossly exaggerated by racism and by a disinformation campaign run by the police union) led many to consider suburban New Jersey to be a more desirable place on the whole the New York City, notwithstanding Broadway, the museums, and all of the City's other cultural treasures.
  4. Los Angeles Chargers Brand Discussion

    I would only point out that, between 1964 and 1980, the Giants went 84-156-4 with no playoff appearances. The fans sure hated the Mara family at that point. But then the team turned it around, and became a playoff mainstay and a champion. Not having lived in San Diego or anywhere on the West Coast, I get my impressions from friends who have lived there. It is those people (who have lived or currently live in L.A., Palm Springs, Fresno, San Francisco, and Oakland) who conveyed to me the idea that driving enormous distances does not mean the same thing to West-Coasters as it does to people on the East Coast. I'll mention that Philadelphia seems a lot closer than it used to, ever since I made two round trips there and back by bicycle, and rode there three times total. Anyway, if my team moved to Philly, but continued to be available on TV and radio just as before, and if their uniforms were the same, and if their players and coaches were the same, then I think that I would probably continue to root for them, despite my sadness over the move. Wait, in this analogy, is she still letting me have sex with her? Because that's the only way an analogy to fans still being able to watch their team every week makes any sense. By the way, since @bosrs1 admitted that he stopped reading my post after the first paragraph, let me present this to him: The point here is to play the long game. The Chargers' move to Los Angeles will in all likelihood be a total disaster. Keeping up support in San Diego will only make it more likely that the team will eventually move back, under either the current ownership or the next owner. Hate to go off-topic, but no. No it wasn't. Not even in the "Drop dead!" era. Not in your view, nor in mine. But that was the prevailing view at the time. New Jersey saw itself as superior to a New York City whose day had come and gone; and many in New York City agreed with this. Even the Yankees seemed destined to eventually leave the City for a suburban New Jersey location. Since then, of course, people have come to their senses on the issue, and have begun to value New York City -- and all cities -- much more.
  5. Los Angeles Chargers Brand Discussion

    Please do not compare this with the cross-country moves of the Brooklyn Dodgers and the New York Giants. This is a move to the next town over; it has more in common with the 49ers' move to Santa Clara. Also, let's realise that the Raiders retained plenty of fans in both Oakland and Los Angeles after their moves away from those cities, and that the Rams maintained L.A. fans even after a move of 2000 miles to St. Louis. The Charger fans have it easy by comparison. I have not spent time in San Diego. But I have spent plenty of time in New York, where the fans of the Giants and Jets from the City and from Long island stayed with those teams after the teams' moves to New Jersey. And, whereas New York City looks down at New Jersey currently, when the Giants went out there in the mid-1970s, New York City was perceived to be in decline; so at that time it was suburban New Jersey which sneered at us. At that historical moment, New York City was the inferior partner in the cultural rivalry with New Jersey, just as San Diego is the inferior partner in the cultural rivalry with Los Angeles. But if proud New Yorkers could stomach the fact that their team was now playing in New Jersey, then San Diegans can do likewise with their team playing in Los Angeles. Also, for any Giant fans or Jet fans on Long Island, the trip to a game requires a travel time well in excess of two hours each way. So, even though the raw number of miles travelled is much less than the distance between San Diego and Los Angeles, the treks are comparable. And here we also mustn't ignore the different attitudes toward distance in the West versus in the East: driving 100 miles out West is the equivalent of driving about 40 miles on the East Coast. So San Diego's Charger fans will be fine, if they choose to be. And, if they're smart, they'll see that continuing to express support might in the long run get the team to move back, as the Raiders and the Rams did in response to enduring fan loyalty in the abandoned cities of Oakland and Los Angeles, respectively, and as the Raiders could have done with Los Angeles had they elected to do so.
  6. Los Angeles Chargers Brand Discussion

    Despite the understandable hurt feelings, any San Diego Chargers fan who is thinking will realise that he/she can still watch the team on TV every week, and can still read the SB Nation blog covering the team. I don't know whether the newspapers will send beat reporters to cover the team; but I assume they will. So, for the majority of the team's old fans, nothing will have changed. And, as you mentioned, anyone who wants to attend a game can do so by taking a drive that is not very long by Western standards; and, what's more, they might even be encouraged to do so by the guarantee of a good seat demonstrated by the low pre-season attendance. So maybe some San Diego fans will decide not to spite themselves, and to just watch and enjoy.
  7. Minnesota Timberwolves

    I love Minnesota's new uniforms. The font on the wordmarks and the numbers is a clear improvement over the previous font. The smooth curves are much more attractive than the weird angles found on the old font, a font which would have been appropriate for a children's book about a haunted house. Also, the colours are beautiful; and the stripes are very sharp. The look is innovative without being undignified. The overall effect is a very comfortable and cool feel. This is superb. (This uniform makes me even more annoyed at the Nets, who should have been able to create a clean look that is as interesting as Minnesota's, instead of their uncreatively drab look.)
  8. I doubt it as they will be on live on big FOX immediately before the McGregor/Mayweather preshow and undercard. They've got 90 minutes (4:30-6 PM EDT), maybe 15-30 overrun, but know that FOX won't be happy with them going long. They should have scheduled it the other way, as Fox could probably show the entire McGregor-Mayweather fight during halftime of the Big3 game.
  9. MLB Changes 2017

    Gee, I wonder where I've seen that number font before... Oh, wait... You've also seen it on the Mets themselves, from 1962 through 1977 officially... ...and then unofficially, through carelessness, up until about 1984. But, it's true that teams should have their own number fonts. One of the things I hate about the Premier League and MLS is the league-wide number font.
  10. MLB Changes 2017

    Everything that every for-profit entity does is solely about money; any other motivation is either marketing BS or else a figment of someone's imagination. Therefore this criticism is pointless, because it applies equally to everyone. Every television show and movie that is produced and every book that is published is put out for sole the purpose of the studio or publisher getting a return on their investment; but we don't allow this fact to stop us from critiquing those things on their artistic merits. Likewise, we should be critiquing these uniforms only on the basis of aesthetics, without worrying about the fact that they are created as a means for the teams to make money.
  11. MLB Changes 2017

    Some team has to bring in Rod Smart to throw out the first pitch while wearing a jersey with "He Hate Me" on the back.
  12. Los Angeles Chargers Brand Discussion

    I think you are under-appreciating the appeal of the Chargers' powder blue. But I agree with you that it is disturbing to think that the Rams might not be going back to royal blue and yellow. The Rams absolutely should not be accommodating the Chargers; the Rams should do what's best for themselves (which is to say: royal and yellow), and let the Chargers deal with the consequences. The Chargers would have little choice but to adopt powder blue, as a means of distinguishing themselves from the Rams. Then everybody wins!
  13. Players in the "wrong" uniforms

    If the standard is an all-time great for one team and very good for another team (as opposed to terrible for another team, as many of these late-career "wrong team" guys were), then Ty Cobb fits the bill. After having played 22 years with Detroit, Cobb played two more with the Philadelphia A's. His service with the A's is not long enough to allow him to be considered one of the club's all-time greats; but, still, he hit .357 and .323 for them in those years, at ages 40 and 41.
  14. Players in the "wrong" uniforms

    Apologies if the following has already been brought up in this thousand-page thread. As a result of the outrageous expansion of this topic beyond its few true exemplars out to the flimsy standard of "any guy who has ever been traded", as well as the parade of hockey players, all of whom are utterly unrecognisable to me regardless of uniform, I admit that my perception of the topic has become somewhat deadened. But here is a guy who ranks alongside Namath with the Rams and Killebrew with the Royals as one of the core illustrations of this phenomenon:
  15. PRO Chess League

    Come on, get happy.