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  1. The Heat did a pretty good job of it with their Vice look.
  2. A personal contact within the Marlins FO indicated they were workshopping new colors over the summer as part of a City Connect refresh. They weren’t sure if this was for 2024 or 2025.
  3. Two or three mid-week series a year in Orlando, Jacksonville, SW Florida and Tampa wouldn’t be a bad idea to build support for the team around the state.
  4. I last went to Tropicana Field in 2010ish. It looks like the bastard child of a stadium, warehouse, and an early 90s cut-rate office building if it were possible for them to procreate. The main rotunda meant to evoke Ebbets Field looks more like something you see in a dying mall. Different areas of the concourse had their own “character” which ranged from sterile concrete to drop ceilings to Joe DiMaggio in comic book form. The trimmings on the scoreboard reminded me of a cheap baseball-theme carnival funhouse. The lights inside are low so you have a constant glare. The turf looked poorly maintained and had a weird shine. I think they still had the orange leaf gradient on the walls/catwalks which evoked Rainforest Cafe. The banners in the rafters and the museum were cool though. We set in right field a few rows in front of former Marlins GM Larry Beinfest and his kids. The Marlins infield dropped an infield pop-up and when we turned around he did that thing where he knew you were looking at him but didn’t want to make eye contact.
  5. I don’t see expansion happening if both Portland and Montreal gain via expansion. Going into smaller markets wouldn’t be feasible unless there is a monumental shift in MLB economics to bolster them. Moving into Mexico, Puerto Rico, and even Cuba might be on MLB’s 2040 expansion plans due to the current problems in each region.
  6. Anyone ever seen this? Opening Night at the Florida Suncoast Dome in 1990.
  7. 2003 was my first real experience as a fan. I remember 1997 but I was too young to understand. I can still remember most of the memorable games in 2003. It’s burned into me and I relive it everytime I go to the ballpark or they play against a specific opponent. They are some of the fondest memories I have as a teenager and it’s why I still hope that the Marlins can be relevant again.
  8. 3 years after winning the championship they were also visiting Las Vegas, Portland, San Antonio, and Oklahoma City for new ballparks. @SFGiants58 summed it up pretty well. He forgot David Samson bragging at a banquet how he got taxpayers to fund the majority of the stadium AND later in an inebriated state yelling “$1.2 BILLION!” when he was booed by fans at another event after the sale.
  9. I won’t comment on where the Rays are in the pecking order since I haven’t been in Tampa long enough to get a feel for it, but the link above shows the Rays being the favorite baseball team. I think MLB failed the Rays but not doing more to push the Yankees out of the Tampa area (to Orlando?) to allow the Rays to establish themselves.
  10. The Marlins are more popular than the Yankees in Miami. Despite 16 years of horrible mismanagement the Marlins fans would still outdraw Yankees fans like they did in the 2003 World Series. The gap was narrowed in that time, but nothing unites Miamians more than rooting against a team from New York. This is similar with the Heat and Dolphins. Even the Cuban exiles that can remember watching the Yankees in the 40s and 50s in black and white put the Marlins before the Yankees. The rules that govern the rest of Florida do not apply in Miami. Anyone who has spent a decent enough time here fully understands. This map from 2014 shows this: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/24/upshot/facebook-baseball-map.html#7,26.015,-81.360 You can continue to repeat your line about Northeasterners in Florida, but it ignores facts: 1) 53% of Miami-Dade was not even born in this country and 2) That Miami is a full generation removed from spring training baseball.
  11. Except Miami is not full of transplants from the Northeast.
  12. Miami-Dade has 2.6 million people to Broward's 1.9 million. Adding Palm Beach's population to Broward's is unrealistic because no one in their right mind will consistently drive 20 miles down to downtown Fort Lauderdale. The Marlins basically tried being in the geographic center of a metro area 70 miles long and it did not work out. The Marlins made the right move in moving closer to the urban core of Miami-Dade County. Downtown Miami is the largest and fastest growing of the three urban cores in South Fla. Redevelopment is already pushing up the river and into Little Havana a couple blocks from where the stadium is. There was a time in the 90s that many believed downtown Fort Lauderdale would overtake Miami as the most important urban hub. I think that argument is dead and buried.
  13. So, you didn't want to use relevant facts to back up something you said. Makes sense. Well the relevant facts are these: 1. Marlins Park is 1 year old 2. Loria cannot sell the team until 2015 without giving a chunk of it back to the city of Miami. I don't think that Loria is even leasing the stadium... I cannot find any information on lease terms for the stadium. In either case, Loria is pocketing literally every dollar than comes into the park. It's not as if he's going to get a sweeter deal anywhere else. The Marlins are staying put for the foreseeable future. He's leasing the stadium and keeping every dollar it generates. He pays rent on the stadium, rent on the parking garage, and into an account that makes improvements to the stadium.It's on Miami Dade County's website. You can google miami dade baseball stadium agreement. http://www.miamidade.gov/internalservices/ballpark-resolutions.asp
  14. The website's a real knee slapper: http://informglendale.com/
  15. Marlins replaced their banners. (Ignore the scoreboard, this was after Giancarlo Stanton pelted it with a grand slam that was a missile.
  16. Not a fan of overly complex banners. I'm all for differentiating division titles from conference and league titles, especially for teams that don't have the luxury of several chamoionships to display, but there should be a better alternative than what the Mavs did.
  17. I suspect many of these losses are only dramatic on paper. The team itself could be losing money, but the parent company is turning a profit. It's any easy way to hide money from the tax man. For example, the Florida Panthers are owned by Sunrise Sports and Entertainment. I guarantee arena related revenues from advertising, concerts, expos and graduations stay with the parent company. Meanwhile, the only revenues on the Panthers' books are hockey related. SSE could also be "charging" the Panthers rent, maintenance and service fees for using "their" facility. Great example of this were the Huizenga owned Marlins. He justified the 1997-98 firesale because the Marlins were "losing" $30 million a year. The team was "losing" this money but only because premium seat revenue and luxury box revenue generated during Marlins games was being put in the revenue column of the stadium's management company, Huizenga Holdings. Someone earlier mentioned the Blues control all arena revenue, I wouldn't be surprised if this were another great example of this. The Red Sox and Yankees have been in the "minus" column for years because NESN/YES do not fall under the franchise's umbrella. I'm not saying the NHL is 100% profitable either.
  18. The economics of private financing and Tampa's weak corporate base are going to make a privately financed retractable roof, hell any ballpark, next to impossible. Some control over the weather has to be in place at any new facility-- hopefully not another dome,
  19. How much larger are those markets than Tampa Bay again? How many Fortune 500 companies call those markets mentioned above home?
  20. They also have not one, but two 'LEED certified' banners. I know the person who has the banners that hung in the Orange Bowl. When he found out that university was going to let them die with the building, he got permission to go in and take them down. They currently hang in his warehouse. I know the Marlins were leaning towards having arena-style banners for the two championships and HOFers Dave Van Horne and Felo Ramirez at the new ballpark. There is talk that #5 may be unretired.
  21. Can someone please identify the fonts used on the sign?
  22. MLB 2050 American League Northeast New York Boston Baltimore Toronto South Charlotte San Antonio Texas Central Florida (Orlando-TB metros merge) Midwest Chicago Cleveland Minnesota Kansas City West Los Angeles Vancouver San Jose Las Vegas Seattle Pacific Tokyo #1 Tokyo #2 Osaka Yokohama Nagoya National League Northeast New York Brooklyn Philadelphia Washington South Cincinnati Atlanta Houston Pittsburgh Midwest St. Louis Chicago Milwaukee Colorado West Los Angeles San Diego Portland Riverside Arizona Caribbean Miami Havana Mexico City Caracas San Juan 5 Division winners 3 Wild Cards per league Special Note: Detroit Tigers move to Vancouver in 2028 after Detroit voters approve referendum to demolish the entire city of Detroit. MLB still can't seem to get rid of the AL/NL alignments.
  23. Nevermind, I found it. It's called Uptown for anyone who's interested.
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