ItDoesntMatter

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  1. ACCL American-Canadian CrashBall League

    Hey, no worries. Keep on keeping on. While I'm here, I'll say that I appreciate your creativity with the conference logos, but they're pretty busy and are hard to read as the letters they're intended to be. I think simpler logos with fewer elements would help your case here.
  2. I apologize in advance for the incredibly long post ahead. If you are actually going to read through it, you’re probably in the minority. If you want to skip to the really exciting stuff for now, go to the last paragraph; there’s plenty of bold text, so you shouldn’t be able to miss it. Either way, I’ll see you at the finish line. I have always liked the threads on these boards, such as the AFA and the PHL, that documented and simulated the history of a fictional sports league. Even before I joined the forums, I had thought of doing this myself, and had, for a very brief time, simulated a baseball league with my brother (we ended up stopping because we kept making it way too detailed to the point where it took forever to simulate even one game). Reading those threads further inspired me to make my own league, and gave me a better idea of how to do it. However, every major sport has been done at this point to some extent, so I decided to make my own sport. I present: dashball. Dashball is a sport I based heavily on a game I played in gym class called speedball. I would have kept that name, but after some research, there’s already a sport with that name with similar, but slightly different, rules. I decided I should name it something different, and the game I came up with was different enough from the version of speedball I played and the ones I found online, so I felt a different name was justified. Rules (and a basic court) are spoilered below: The name of the league will be the National Dashball League, which isn’t very creative, but I was going for realism on this one. The league logo and division logos are shown below: There’s a lot of weird, abstract, fluffy meaning to this one, but you probably don’t care very much about that. If you do, here’s a spoiler. The league logo will be recolored on each team’s uniforms. I’ll be using raysox’s soccer template for the uniforms because they look the same. The uniforms will be made by SandStorm Sports, a fictional company, which is mostly because I wanted to have my own ideas without having them be constricted by a real life designer. Here are some all-star uniforms so you can see what they look like: Initially, the league will be composed of eight teams, split into East and West Divisions. As there so often is with start up leagues, there will be a bit of drama concerning the first batch of teams to enter the league, so stay tuned for that. I will also, of course, be simulating seasons, keeping track of players, relocating/renaming/rebranding teams as necessary, expanding, etc. I will probably do expansion counsels because those are fun, but I sort of have a direction I want the league to go, so they might not start from the beginning. The league will run a 40-game schedule in which each team plays 8 games against each team in its division and 4 games against each team in the other division (split equally home and away). The season will run from mid-March to late June, immediately followed by the postseason. The winner of each division will make the playoffs along with two wildcard teams, which will be seeded from 1 to 4 based solely on record. Now here are the things that should make you excited about this thread. First, since it’s a fictional sport, it takes place in our timeline (technically, the point of divergence would probably be a few years ago, so that the sport and the manufacturer can gain enough footing to create a professional sports league, but who’s counting). There is no dashball league in this universe (at least as far as I know of), so there’s no need to replace anything. Second, the league’s first season will be in 2017. Yes, this league and its storyline will take place almost entirely in the future (assuming I can keep things moving faster than time itself), and if you’re smart enough to put two and two together and get five, you’ve figured out that that means I am attempting to predict real life future logo and uniform trends. In no way do I expect to be right about this, but I figured it would be a fun path to take, and I like to be unique. I won’t announce these either; you’ll just have to come along for the ride. It should be a fun one. Let me know if you have any questions, comments, concerns, critiques, or general excitement. The first team should be up ... soon.
  3. Coaching Changes: With a 7-73 record over the first two years, the Toronto Hogs fired head coach Nicolas Stroke. In a move that would be controversial both within the organization and without, general manager Billie Arsenault moved to take on the coaching role as well. This was partially due to Arsenault’s ego and perfectionism, and partially because nobody wanted to come coach the perennial pink bottom-feeder that Toronto seems to be becoming. The team’s success this season will be a large determining factor in whether Arsenault, and potentially even the team itself, sticks around. Roster Changes: Free Agents - CAL F/ZB Erik Franz to LA - Franz jumps from a starting spot on the national champion Sea Lions to their biggest rival thus far, the Tooths, where he will likely have a backup role. This looks to be a money-driven move, as LA clearly wanted him more than California did. CAL B/C Roosevelt Hall to TOR - The Hogs gain championship experience from the big man, who spent 2017 with the pink and brown before winning it all last year with the Lions. Hall will also see an increase in playing time after being the fourth center on Cali’s roster last year. TOR B/ZB James Terry to CHI - Terry was one of the Hogs’ best players last year, but was clearly unhappy with the situation there. He will sign with the Frost, who hope that he will put them over the top in what looks to be a very competitive Central Division. Trades - PHX receives W/K Zechariah Bailey, F/ZB Ernie Roberts CAL receives F/K Jim Burns, F/ZB Elenio Field, W/ZB Gary Ceja California was looking to shop one of its keepers, and Phoenix gave them the best offer for Bailey. The trade enabled the Palms to solve their keeper problem and the Sea Lions to add depth at forward. PHI receives B/ZB McAllister Pleasant PHX receives F/ZB Zoilo Estrada In a straight-up star-for-star trade, the Palms pick up another forward to replace Field and Burns, while the Row get an excellent two-way player in Pleasant who can take some pressure off their younger, less-experienced starters. Expansion Draft - 1. B/ZB Brandon Walter (LA) 2. B/ZB Scott Rose (LA) 3. B/K David Jones (SEA) 4. B/K Joel Drain (CHI) 5. F/C Billy Moses (TOR) 6. F/ZB Alexander Burkhardt (PHI) 7. B/C Ralph Rashke (TEX) 8. W/ZB Terry Rothgeb (CHI) 9. B/ZB Freddie Hayley (CAL) 10. W/ZB Charles Lee (CAL) 11. W/C Kyle Simpson (PHX) 12. B/ZB Kristian Wagner (PHX) 13. W/ZB Jay Moth (SEA) 14. W/K Will Orleans (TEX) 15. F/ZB Steve Owens Jr. (PHI) 16. B/ZB Joel Moth (TOR) The Chargers were allowed to pick two players from each team’s list of eight unprotected players. Notable picks include: Walter and Rose, both of whom started for the Sabertooths last season; Burkhardt, who started the season for Philadelphia but didn’t live up to expectations and wound up on the bench; Hayley, who, despite being the oldest on the team, is also one of its best players, and has said that he wants to play into his 40s; and two of the Moth brothers (their older brother Charlie was released by Philly, where both he and Jay started their careers, and joined Jay in Seattle just two weeks before Jay was taken by the Chargers). Draft - 1. NY - W/ZB Tom Gross - Portland State 2. TOR - B/ZB Charley Parker - LSU 3. SEA - F/K Chris Gray - MD-Eastern Shore 4. PHI (from TEX) - B/ZB Curt Rouge - New Brunswick 5. PHX - W/ZB Gary Ceja - UC-Santa Barbara 6. CHI - B/ZB Mitch Beetle - North Florida 7. LA - B/ZB Willy Tipton - Sacramento State 8. PHI - W/ZB Lawrence Davis - Cal State Northridge 9. CAL - F/ZB Dale Maxwell - New Orleans Unlike last year’s draft, there was no consensus #1 pick. Ultimately, New York decided on Tom Gross, whom they will look to for speed at the wing position, over bigger, more powerful back Charley Parker, who went to Toronto at #2. Seattle looked a little further down the draft board for Chris Gray, the only non-zone back drafted in the first round, and the second UMES player Seattle has drafted in the first round in three years (they took Tom Reyes-Moore in 2017). The rest of the draft was highlighted by smaller schools in California, who have picked up the sport relatively quickly, possibly due to the success of the Sea Lions and Sabertooths.
  4. Yeah, I'm pretty glad that's in the future right now.
  5. Before we get to the offseason post, I've got one uniform update to show you guys. Like some of you, the Frost noticed that their second and third uniforms were pretty much redundant, and have effectively combined the two into one uniform, which will become the new secondary. The primary and blackout have not changed. I don't know for sure how often the league will expand, but I think it'll be relatively quickly. I absolutely plan to do Expansion Councils when I do, though, and I will be looking at projected growth and such of cities (it wouldn't be very exciting if I used 2017 data for 2030s councils, now would it ).
  6. Thanks! That was definitely the goal; I wanted to really emphasize bronze, since no other teams really use that color. Awesome! Good to hear. I definitely like the Central logo too in a vacuum, just white isn't a great color to have to "own." I still think it worked, though. Thanks a lot! The South is wide open, so the league definitely wants to get a team there as soon as possible. I can't say where yet, but the league will be looking to get into smaller markets with fewer teams, so Nashville is definitely an option.
  7. Love that helmet. I think we might've found this universe's Michigan Panthers (unless of course you have something else planned ). Great work as always.
  8. I've got a few housekeeping things to drop before we move on, and I'd also like to bump to see if I can get more feedback on the Chargers. First off, now that we have three divisions, we need three division logos, so I've adjusted them accordingly. I tried to keep roughly the same color scheme and balance for the East and West, which meant that the Central Division gets stuck with white, but oh well. I've also updated the signatures to reflect the new team and alignment. While I haven't seen anyone other than myself using them, here they are again just in case:
  9. Count me a Utah fan That, and green and orange are my two favorite colors, and they look great together here. I like that you didn't go too wild with them otherwise because that seems like it could get out of hand real fast. Great job.
  10. Wow, it's been a while. I haven't forgotten about this, I've just been busy and a bit under the weather. I haven't forgotten about those of you with technical difficulties either, but I haven't found any solutions. Anyway, without further ado, here are the New York Chargers (finally): It seems like every NYC team today has a pretty generic identity, which is fine; they’ve all been around for a while, and New York is a really big, really diverse city. However, I wanted to focus in more and create a team with a little more personality. I decided to focus on the iconic Charging Bull sculpture located in Lower Manhattan, and went with the name Chargers because “New York Bulls” would cause too much confusion. I created a minimalist bull logo based heavily on the sculpture as well as the obligatory NY monogram. I ended up marking the NY as the primary, though both logos will get similar exposure. I used bronze as the primary color to represent the statue, green to represent money and the stock market, and an off-white that I thought looked good with the set. I also threw a little red in there for some color, but since it has pretty negative connotations, there’s not a whole lot of it. I’m not sure @Darknes intended that to be so literal, but I put bull horn-esque stripes on the shoulders of the main uniforms, which also feature asymmetrical stripes on the shorts. It may be hard to tell, but the numbers on those two are outlined in red, which also appears in the middle of the shorts striping. I decided to go a little crazy on the tertiary, which is inspired by stock market graphs and features metallic bronze on the jersey. It’s a little bit Redbackish, but I think it’s pretty distinct. I also went a little crazy on the court, bronzing the whole playing surface. It’s not quite Smurf Turf, and it’s not the craziest wood floor I’ve seen either, but it’s different (also if anyone can come up with a catchy nickname for it, feel free, because I’ve tried and failed). I tried diagonal wordmarks in the end zones too, which might be completely unpopular, but I wanted this team to try things. Let me know what you think; I’m definitely open to criticism here.
  11. I've looked into this before; I think @CodeG had the same problem earlier in the thread. If y'all don't mind me asking, what platforms/browsers are you using? That might help me get a lead on it. For the record, I'm linking the images directly from Google Drive. In the meantime, all the images should be accessible here; you'll just have to do a little searching.
  12. In what came as a surprise to many, California would start the series looking very mortal. Philadelphia came out strong, and would take a 37-21 lead midway through the second inning before something finally clicked for the Sea Lions. They would spend the rest of the game chipping away at that lead, before they chipped their way to their own lead late and held on for an 8-point win. The Row had every reason to be confident going into Game 2, but it didn’t show. California looked dominant throughout the game, and refused to hold back, trying to build up their own momentum. That didn’t seem to work either. Rejuvenated by their home crowd, Philly started playing some of the most inspired defense the Sea Lions had yet encountered. The Row held the Sea Lions to just 116 points, the second-fewest in franchise history, on their way to a win. They would continue to excel in Game 4, but California’s defense would step up even more. The two teams would combine for just 227 points, the second fewest in playoff history, and the Sea Lions would come away with their third win of the series, 118-109. Game 5 would be a must-win for the Row at home, and it was an excruciating game to watch for the Philly crowd. While they were playing well, the Lions were just playing better. It seemed every time the Row had gotten back into the game and were picking up some momentum, B/C Thomas Notz or W/ZB Justin Smith would make a big play and lead California on a run to pull back ahead. The Row were never out of it, but they were never really in it either, and the Sea Lions were champions of the NDL for the second straight year.
  13. Chicago Frost vs California Sea Lions Once again, the Sea Lions would be facing a mediocre East Division opponent in the first round. Unlike the Redbacks last year, however, Chicago would not go down without a fight. The Frost defense showed early on that they could hang with California, and they would take a 58-54 lead into halftime of Game 1. California would take control of the game soon after, winning by a relatively pedestrian 13 points. The Lions would look to silence the haters in Game 2, and would do just that, leading from start to finish and taking a 38-point win as the series moved east. Back on their home court for Game 3, the Frost offense would find their stride. They never trailed by more than 6, and ultimately won by 10. Unfortunately, that was about as good as it got. Chicago looked exhausted in Game 4, and the Sea Lions kept piling on points, ultimately winning by 54. Game 5 wasn’t much better, and for the third time in four games, California would never trail, coasting to a 142-119 win for their second straight trip to the Finals. Los Angeles Sabertooths vs Philadelphia Row With a relatively boring semifinal on the other side of the bracket, this series was supposed to be the entertaining one, and Game 1 certainly lived up to the hype. Ultimately, the game would come down to the final seconds. F/ZB Omaro Rubio scored a clutch 3-point goal to put the Tooths up 5 with just 8 seconds left, and W/ZB Gregorio Gentile’s pass to F/ZB Zoilo Estrada was broken up, giving LA the win to steal home-court advantage in the series. The Row would look to answer in Game 2, and their defense would pick up the slack in a 33-point win. Philly carried that momentum with them to LA, and would also take Games 3 and 4 in comfortable fashion. The Sabertooths had some experience with 3-1 leads, but they now found themselves down by that margin instead of ahead by it. Furthermore, they would have to win two games in Philly after already having dropped two at home. Game 5 would start out looking awful for the LA faithful, as the Row pulled ahead by 19 at the start of the sixth inning. However, W/ZB Dwight McCann put the offense on his back during that inning, almost singlehandedly cutting the lead to seven, and would pick up right where he left off during the eighth. As the final seconds ticked down, the Tooths were down by one. With time ticking down, McCann found W/K Cedric Tola as he crossed the goal line. NDL rules state that in order for a touchdown to count, “the ball must cross the plane of the goal line after the passer has released the ball and before the receiver has received the ball.” Tola himself didn’t think he had scored, and threw up a floater toward the basket that went well wide as time expired, but the play was ruled a touchdown and was upheld after review, giving the Sabertooths a 2-point win and keeping them alive in the series. The controversy in this series was far from over, though. Game 6 also brought a Sabertooths comeback, and they would go up 7 with 2 minutes to go, only to see that lead wither away, and the game was tied with ten seconds to go. The Tooths moved down the court, and Rubio scored what looked like a game-winning goal, but officials ruled that it touched B/C Jimmy Taylor after time expired, which by rule, nullified the goal. Taylor was adamant, saying it never touched him, but once again, the replay review was not able to overturn the call, and the game would go to overtime for the first time in NDL playoff history. LA came into inning number nine looking deflated, and the Row would run away with the game, sealing the second spot in the NDLCS. The Row also became the third team in history to score 200 points in a game (Seattle scored 221 in a double-OT game this season, and California put up 206 in regulation less than a week later; interestingly, both of those games were in Toronto).
  14. The second season got off to a poor start when the top 3 draft picks (Seattle’s F/ZB Ray Terrell, Toronto’s B/ZB Anthony Bennett, and Phoenix’s B/K Will Baker) all went down with season-ending injuries in the second week of the season. W/ZB Wil Perez, selected 4th overall by the Redbacks, also missed a good chunk of the year with a shoulder injuries, furthering perceptions that the draft was “cursed.” Texas still had excellent young talent left over from last year and Phoenix benefited from excellent years from many players, including second-round draft pick B/ZB Yash Savarn and third-rounder B/ZB Kris Brantley. However, the Hogs and Sawyers suffered greatly from the loss of those players, with each finishing 4-36 and combining to win a single game within their respective divisions. The rest of the teams sorted themselves out into the elite and the mediocre. California looked unstoppable throughout the season, going 37-3 and never losing by more than 7 points or to a team with fewer than 30 wins. Their offense was even more prolific than last year, led by repeat Offensive Player of the Year B/C Thomas Notz and young trio W/ZB Justin Smith, B/ZB Steve Gibson, and W/K Josué Flores, and their roster was by far the deepest in the league. LA was also excellent again; W/ZB Dwight McCann had a breakout year, running away with the MVP race, and basically carrying the Tooths to second place in the West. However, the biggest surprise to many was Philly. The Row ran away with the East, partly because of a slew of injuries to both teams, but also because of excellent defense. Reigning Defensive Player of the Year B/ZB Maurice Caumont failed to recapture the award, but still put up excellent numbers, and B/K LaVarius McCargo and W/ZB Gregorio Gentile emerged on both sides of the ball. The Row would win 34 games and go 23-1 within the East Division, taking the second seed. That left one playoff spot between three teams, and it would come down to the final game of the regular season. Chicago came into game 40 with a 17-22 record, with Phoenix and Texas each a game behind. The Redbacks needed a win and a Phoenix loss to win the tiebreaker with the Frost, while the Palms needed to beat the Sawyers and a Redbacks win against Chicago. Phoenix easily took care of business, but unfortunately for them, so did the Frost, who took the 4 seed and will travel to California for Game 1.
  15. NFL “Gridiron Gals” Logos (25/32)

    I'm pretty sure she's throwing a football, but it does seem kinda confusing given that the football has an eye and a beak. I think it looks really good given the distinctly nonhuman starting point you were working from, and I think the more creative ones we're seeing lately have been some of your best, so keep it up.
  16. There will be an expansion draft for New York, taking place the day before the 2018 Entry Draft. Each team will be able to protect 12 players, and NY will pick two players from each team for a total of 16. Hey, it's not as unlikely as you might think. Since dashball is a relatively new sport and schools haven't really been recruiting for it, smaller schools are much more represented in the dashball landscape than, say, college football, so it's hard to say where the best prospects will come from, and colleges and universities most people have never heard of are much more likely to get mentioned.
  17. "High 60s, Little Wind" Anyway, always good to see the Miners fall, and especially pumped for Guardians-Imperials next week. Hoping for a Houston-Cincinnati Victory Bowl.
  18. I also noticed this and I'm holding out the somewhat irrational hope that that tie was supposed to be a win and the Caps made the playoffs.
  19. Sorry this has been so dead for so long; real life and technical difficulties got in the way, as they often do. No uniforms or coaches changed this offseason, although Toronto’s Nicolas Stroke is squarely on the hot seat. Roster Changes: Free Agents - PHX B/ZB Silvestro Sole to TEX - Having started and completed nearly every game for the Palms in 2017, Sole moves to Texas, where he looks to have the same role but on a younger, more competitive team. CHI B/ZB Freddie Hayley to CAL - The Sea Lions might be stretching a bit for the 36-year-old, but he proved last year he could make an impact down the stretch for the Frost. Trades - PHI receives F/ZB Alexander Burkhardt, B/ZB Hank Union, TEX 2018 4th round pick TEX receives F/C Ben Bowman, F/ZB Walt Duncan, PHI 2018 1st round pick In what looks like the most lopsided trade of the offseason, the Redbacks give up a 37-year-old Union and their (albeit very talented) backup forward in exchange for two 20-year-olds and moving up 3 rounds in the draft. TOR receives B/C Román Ortiz CAL receives B/C Jasper Jansen, B/C Roosevelt Hall, TOR 2019 2nd round pick California trades the 21-year-old Ortiz to a Toronto team that struggled at center for two Hogs centers and a pick. Draft - 1. SEA (from TOR) - F/ZB Ray Terrell - Wisconsin-Milwaukee 2. TOR (from SEA) - B/ZB Anthony Bennett - Cincinnati 3. PHX - B/K Will Baker - Lipscomb 4. TEX (from PHI) - W/ZB Wil Perez - Loyola (IL) 5. SEA (from TEX via TOR) - B/C Andi Effendi - Indonesia 6. CHI - F/ZB Orville O’Connor - Central Connecticut 7. LA - F/ZB Vit Kraina - Czechia 8. CAL - B/C Howard Dixon - Long Beach State As you can see, quite a few picks changed hands here. Seattle gave up two picks in addition to their second in order to trade up and take Ray Terrell, who is projected to be one of the best offensive talents in the league almost immediately. Toronto met more of their needs with Bennett anyway, who was the clear #2 behind Terrell. Offense continued to be a theme throughout the rest of the first round, with Baker, Perez, and Dixon all rated much higher offensively than defensively. News - Two days after game 7 of the NDLCS, Commissioner Justin Rose announced that a deal had been reached for a team in New York City to start in the 2019 season. After the debacle that took place before the season, Rose expressed what to many seemed like a sense of relief that things were back on track. New York will join the East Division, with Chicago, Texas, and Phoenix moving from their respective divisions to create the Central Division. In terms of scheduling, not much will change: each team will still play 8 games against their division rivals and 4 games against every other team, which will still result in a 40-game regular season.
  20. The new font looks much better. I only have one tiny nitpick: the two horizontal lines on the F aren't quite parallel. I just can't unsee it. Other than that, I think the Firebirds are perfect, and the Destroyers and Bobcats look great as well.
  21. NFL Aussie Rules Jumpers 2

    Ok, that Rams mark is amazing.
  22. Ok, that makes sense. I think the main problem I have with the font is not its "Greek-ness" but more its "ancient Greek-ness," if that makes any sense. Your logos and uniforms have a lot of sharp, clean points, as does Greek lettering; but this font is, like you said, jagged and harsh, and doesn't seem to mesh with the logos any better than the previous font. I think if you used a font that was more inspired by Ancient Greek instead of actually looking like it was carved into a stone tablet, it would look better (consider this returning a favor ). On other notes, the new secondary is great, and I like the white helmet better than the red, but I like the concept of the red helmet better. Just throwing things against the wall here, but have you tried a black helmet?
  23. In a series expected to be defined by the battle between the Sea Lions’ offense and the Sabertooths’ defense, it was the Lions’ D that dominated the first matchup, only allowing 89 points in a 62-point home win, the largest margin of victory in the playoffs by far. The huge win seemed to assert California’s dominance in the series, and just about everyone was counting the Tooths out - everyone except the Tooths themselves. Game 2 was a much closer affair, and partly due to an injury to Lions starting F/K Sean Jackson, the Tooths actually held the lead for much of the eighth inning before a pass from B/C Thomas Notz to W/K Josué Flores tied the game with just 4 seconds remaining. However, defending W/ZB Ferdinando Guerra picked up the ball and found W/C Henry Crawford for a buzzer-beating 3-point shot. In this game, only the second in the playoffs to be decided by one score, the Tooths proved that they were not to be taken lightly. They also picked up some momentum moving back to LA for Games 3-5. In Game 3, the Sabertooths’ lauded defense was finally able to slow down the Sea Lions’ offense, holding them to just 119 points as LA picked up a convincing home win to go up 2-1. Game 4 was much more offense, as the teams combined for 307 points. Surprising many, the Sabertooths were able to hold up down the stretch, and with some clutch plays from B/ZB Scott Hoffman on offense and B/C Bill Lacy on defense, held on for a 9-point victory to go up 3-1. The Sabertooths now had a chance to close out the series at home in Game 5. Most were skeptical, though, that they could pull out four straight wins against the Sea Lions, and they came out in Game 5 looking pretty juiced. California would pick up another convincing win, this time by 41 points, and carried that momentum back home for Game 6, which they would win by 27 in a game that was only slightly closer than it looked. Los Angeles was now looking to avoid becoming the umpteenth team in just over a year to blow a 3-1 lead in a best-of-7 series and would have to do it in San Jose. They were able to keep it close until the 7th inning, when B/ZB Steve Gibson led the Sea Lions’ offense on a 24-9 run. The Sea Lions never looked back and became the first champions of the National Dashball League.
  24. Well, it's not exactly what I expected, but it still looks great, especially for the late 80s. I'd feel very redundant saying the secondary logo doesn't really work, so I won't. I will say that the font used for the wordmark is a little strange; it looks very Greek and doesn't really say "Arizona" or "Firebirds" to me at all. The uniforms look really nice, though.
  25. Yeah, I'm kinda surprised by all the Firebirds hate. While it may not be the ideal look for them, I think it could definitely work, and I for one am excited to see how Veras goes about this.