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    Colleges In Need For A Logo Rebrand

    Basically I am saying their "cleaned up" brand, is boring. I am all for having a single brand over all sports, but this is all there is and it is not enough. Of course they should have a coherent brand, and the IU monogram needs to be a big part of it, but it is not enough. They can and should expand on the brand to offer people more to work with.
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    Colleges In Need For A Logo Rebrand

    I am going to have to go with my alma mater, Indiana U. because all they have is the monogram. Sure, there is the striped pants thing, and they have a script "Indiana", but with no mascot and only a flat, 1-color monogram, they need to do more. Even adding beveling would be an improvement. I still argue that they need to modernize the Buffalo mascot they used briefly in the past, or develop a new one. This is not enough. Even Penn State, known for minimalist design in uniforms, has more of a logo package than IU.
  3. OK, I'll ask, why is the Alabama State team located in western Mississippi?
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    Introducing the Alliance of American Football

    Yeah, my big suggestions to them would be: 1. Avoid anything that smacks of "kewl", so no use of -z instead of -s, no deliberate misspellings (Xtreme, etc.) 2. Don't be afraid of a "boring" name like Wildcats, Tigers, Mustangs if it is appropriate to the area. 3. Do try to pick names that mean something to the region/city. What is the local history, culture, industry, character, etc. 4. Avoid anything that deals with Native Americans, the Confederacy or other hotbutton historical elements. 5. Nothing wrong with animals, weather, professions, etc. 6. Don't try to mimic the colors of local colleges or lost pro teams. Go a new direction. 7. It is ok to have a non-plural name if it is a word that has meaning and is not too conceptual (Thunder, Lightning, Rampage, Forge, etc.)
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    Introducing the Alliance of American Football

    Based on what we have seen so far design-wise, I expect they will get a good designer. I expect Ebersol is keyed in on the marketing/branding side of things. The league logo, wordmark and website use pretty decent design elements. They have also said that they want each team's name to reflect the local region, culture, tradition, etc. which is a good sign to me. This is one aspect of the league that I feel good about. Still a bit dicey on them choosing Birmingham, as I think St. Louis, New Orleans or Louisville would have been better team to finish the Eastern division with. Hoping they go with either San Antonio or San Jose for the final city.
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    Introducing the Alliance of American Football

    I am actually surprised they went with Birmingham. First off they are stuck in Legion Field for 2 seasons, which is far too big (will look bad on TV) and while their USFL attendance was solid, they did not do as well in the XFL or CFL expansion, which makes me think that folks there are not too keen on yet another attempt at a non-NFL league. It makes more sense to me for them to go to St. Louis (still in pain after NFL departure) or New Orleans (nice outdoor 30,000 seat stadium at Tulane). My guess is that the next team has to be either Texas (San Antonio, Dallas or Houston as you list) or Northern California (San Jose or Sacramento).
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    Hall of Very Good

    I guess I can agree to that, but add Phil Simms to your QB list.
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    Introducing the Alliance of American Football

    I still hold to the idea that the Feb. start removes any chance of the Northeast or Midwest getting teams. It is crappy weather for the most part at least into early April and that is the entire season. The USFL had enough big name players and a long enough season to make it work. I don't see an 8 team 10 week season taking that risk. If domes are not out out of the question, then St. Louis and San Antonio seem the top choices for teams 7-8. If not then I would be looking at Sacramento, San Jose, Portland, Albuquerque and maybe Dallas as a long shot in the west. Louisville, New Orleans, Birmingham, Raleigh or A 2nd Florida team in the East.
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    New Amarillo baseball team announces name finalists

    Wow, those are all horrible. They all reek of trying to hard to do something new and cutesy. And maybe It is because I am not from Texas but "boot scooting" is a reference to a dog dragging its ass across the floor because it has irritated anal glands. Not a great name, to say the least, though the logo could be hilarious.
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    Choking / Cursed Franchises

    As a Bills fan since 1979 I am going to have to agree with this. Here is the litanny of woe. --Won AFL championships but only in years prior to the Superbowl. Had the merger happened 1 year earlier Bills would have been in Super Bowl I. --Biggest star of the 1970's could not produce winning seasons and then is widely believed to have committed double homicide. --Best player on the team in the early 80's leaves to play for the USFL and is never the same again (Joe Cribbs) --Savior QB picked in 1983 draft also opts for the USFL, so Bills lose 2 seasons of play that might have helped them peak sooner. --Wide right, the name says it all. --0-4 in consecutive Super Bowls --After Kelly retires, they find a lost gem in Doug Flutie, who takes them back to the playoffs in 1999 only to be benched in favor of Rob "He Sack Me" Johnson. --They of course lose that playoff game in the Music City Miracle --17 years of bad, but not bad enough to get top draft picks seasons. So so many 7-9's. --Countless 4th quarter lead games vs. the Patriiots where Brady just brushes himself off and crushes the dream in the 4th. --Could not even be featured in a mediocre Kevin Costner movie about the draft. It was meant to be the Bills, but got switched to the Browns in pre-production. I think the Bills are definitely a contender. They, Minnesota, Detroit and Cleveland are all in bad, bad shape.
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    Wideright updates the NFL

    Thought I would take my shot at "fixing" the Jags, Titans and then maybe a few other NFL teams that just don't feel right to me. First up, the Jags. They want simple, so I give them a simple uniform but not so simple as to look like a Div-2 college. Teal is the primary, black the secondary, and if they feel they must, they can go unitard with all black or all white on a hot August day. I envision the primaries as White jersey-black pants and teal jersey-white pants. Note the angled stripes are on the sleeve cuff, pants and socks.
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    Wideright updates the NFL

    Still not sold on the idea that the Powder Blue and white unis are better than the Fouts era navy and yellow. But, I went with the powder blue anyway. But, that said, I kept in some navy and I changed up quite a bit.
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    Introducing the Alliance of American Football

    I think the "big" name coaches will help to provide a sense of legitimacy to the league. Quality of play will matter quite a bit. That is where the XFL failed. They had no preseason and very short camps and the teams were just not ready to play. I think if the leaguewide average is 20,000 they are in great shape. The issue most of these leagues have, and I include WLAF in this, is that by the very nature of the game you are going to have some team(s) that goes 2-8, 1-9 or 0-10 and how do you get fans to go to those games late in the year. People will rally around a winning team, even if it is a minor league team, but to be minor league, with no name players and only a coach's reputation to sell tickets, that is the issue. I think a single-entity system helps with this, because every ticket sold in Orlando helps to keep Atlanta afloat, but in the end, if the games are close and the play is good, and a few names come out of the league and make it to the NFL and are successful there (a la Kurt Warner) the league can draw in a range that will keep it afloat (20-30k). But they better plan for there to be a few stinker teams with bad records and worse crowds, and not jump on the relocation/contraction bandwagon too soon. Commit to those markets so fans can commit to the teams, even when they are bad in season 1 or 2. By the way, i still wish they were open to having 10 teams instead of 8, because someone in the St. Louis, Sacramento, New Orleans, Louisville, Oakland and San Antonio pool is going to get left out, and I think all of those markets could work for the AAF. Maybe they do well in year 1 and add 2 teams in year 2.
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    Wideright imagines the AAF

    Ready to start a new concept thread for the intriguing Alliance of American Football. 8 teams playing spring football. The first team to be identified has been Orlando, headed by the "Old Ball Coach", Steve Spurrier. We will try to predict all 8 franchises ahead of the AAF announcement of teams and team names (which they have said are coming). I will also periodically request feedback on key decisions, such as future cities, identity focus or color scheme, but with Orlando I am starting on my own and I am setting some limitations which will apply to all teams. 1. All teams must use 3 colors + white in their color scheme and uniforms. 2. All teams must use non-count or singular nouns for their mascot. I know this is controversial, and I actually am a fan of count nouns (Tigers, Bears, Saints, etc.) over non-count nouns (Fury, Thunder, Revolution), but I wanted to challenge myself and put a weird requirement on the AAF. 3. All teams will have only 1 uniform. In a league with only 8 teams it should be possible to avoid duplication of the helmet and jersey color, which should provide enough contrast to make it unnecessary to have a clash or home/road uniforms. This means that teams must each have unique color combinations to avoid repetition. And so, without further ado, the first AAF franchise, taking advantage of the rich tradition of local college football by utilizing the color palette (slightly altered) of the U. of Florida: Royal, Kelly and Orange, and tying their identity to the local economy in a tongue in cheek way with just a hint of double entendre... ...and with due credit to BradyLvie (name) and ThePeam (name and the Juice squirt concept in the logo.) OK... now, we start the AAF off with... Your Orlando JUICE!!! Yes, the AAF will require the league logo and "Alliance" at each collar and the logo on the pants. No jersey advert yet (Is it Nike? Adidas? Heck it could be Kelme or Umbro for all I care, I am not a fan of the branding by the producer, so I am leaving it off. I thought about corporate sponsors on the back or sleeve, but decided a more traditionally clean jersey was best. Next up, we decide if the rumors are true. Is Rick Neuheisel leading a team in Southern California, and if so, where will they play?
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    Wideright updates the NFL

    The Seattle Seahawks. Here is the deal. 1. I wanted to return to the 2-blue scheme from the Hasselbeck days. I loved everything about that look except the unitard element, which is easily fixable simply by matching the pants and jersey differently. 2. I also miss the silver helmets from the early days, so those come back too. 3. But, from the contemporary uniform I wanted to keep some of the Northwest Native American imagery, so you will see a little bit of the feather pattern in the pants, and the shoulder/sleeve treatment is also meant to evoke the seahawk beak. So it is a little bit from 3 different eras. The pants can be matched with any combo, though I would imagine that the silver alternate jerseys are somewhat limited to the silver pants. I envision the blue or silver pants most often with the white jersey and the white or silver pants with the blue home jersey. Next up, a team that has come so close to perfection a couple of times, it pains me that they just keep missing it. Who could that be?
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    ECHL Newfoundland Growlers Unveil Name, Logo, Colours

    Actually, if you ever see a Newfie dog, their eyes are really hard to spot because they are mostly black and they blend with the black fur, so this is really an accurate look at what a Newf looks like.
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    Wideright imagines the AAF

    XFL announces LA Stars as 5th league franchise. Fending off rumors of potential crisis within the XFL, league CEO Vince McMahon and Head of Football Operations Ed Hochuli today announced from Banc of California Stadium, home of LA FC, that the return of the XFL would include an LA franchise. Rumors had been spreading that the XFL was in dire trouble, having difficulty locking up stadium contracts and falling further behind the fledgling Alliance of American Football, who just finished a very successful first season. McMahon shrugged off these rumors as "fake news" as he introduced the new coach of the Stars, former XFL MVP, UCLA and Steelers QB Tommy Maddox. Maddox expressed his gratitude to Mr. McMahon for jumpstarting his career back in 2001 with his championship with the LA Xtreme, and for giving him the chance to do the same for others as coach of the Stars. The team revealed their uniforms, which will align in some degree with the black and metallic gold of LAFC. in addition to black and gold, the uniforms have a heavy dose of silver and a faded purple. The imagery of the team cannot be mistaken for anything but old Hollywood, including a symbolic strip of film serving as both the helmet and pant stripe. The home jerseys will be purple with black, silver and gold accents, while the pants will be silver as is the helmet. Banc of California stadium seats approximately 22,000 fans, making it the smallest stadium in the now 5 team XFL. But, as it is also the newest stadium in the league, it has amenities that many others do not. McMahon touted the stadium as one of the best in the country and a great home for the fledgling team. When asked about future city reveals, McMahon was vehement that all 8 markets would be announced within the next 3 weeks and that the XFL was fully prepared for an April 2020 kickoff.
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    Wideright imagines the AAF

    XFL may play with only 6 teams While not confirmed by league offices, rumors about the XFL's difficulties getting stadium agreements in place in locations such as New York and Chicago are beginning to pile up, leading some to suggest that the attempted rebirth of the failed spring league may end up being smaller than originally announced. While franchises in DC, Boston, San Jose, and Boulder, Colorado have been confirmed and there is strong evidence that Vince McMahon has an agreement in place for an LA franchise to play at the newly opened Bank of California Stadium, it is possible that plans for franchises in several other large markets have fallen through, forcing the league to either reconsider their map for the league, or contract the planned 8 charter franchises down to 6. With the one year head-start held by the rival Alliance of American Football, not only in putting players on the field, but in signing stadium and television contracts, the XFL might be fighting a losing battle already. What should the XFL do? Should they add some smaller markets to the mix, replacing Chicago with Omaha or New York with Buffalo? Should they play with only 6 franchises, creating an odd 10 game schedule? Or, should they think even more dramatically and coordinate talks with Ebersol and the AAF about joining forces to create a single spring league instead of two competing entities? While the latter initially seems like a longshot, particularly considering the egos involved in both leagues, with resources and options shrinking for the XFL, it may just be the best chance McMahan and his team have of fielding a viable league in 2020.
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    Wideright updates the NFL

    Good catch, Artisan219. That is what I was shooting for, inverting the color order between the two.
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    Wideright updates the NFL

    And for the Buccs I really only made a few changes to the current set to eliminate those elements which bug me. 1. Pewter, when presented as a dull or matte finish on jerseys and pants, is just murky grey, not a good color, so the shoulder yokes and pants need to use a metallic sheen material to provide the same pewter look as the helmet. I attempted to convey that. 2. Created a new wordmark, something a bit more "Piratey". 3. Got rid of the "alarm clock" number font. Tried a bunch of options and the Jags current font seemed to work the best, so that is what I went with. 4. Decided to go with 3 sets of pants, a white, a pewter, and for the odd occasion a black pair. Next up, the Seahawks. I really dislike the current set, and much prefer the 2-blue Hasselbeck era look or the 1980's silver, blue & green, so expect some callbacks to those eras.
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    Wideright updates the NFL

    Before I move on to the Buccs, I did take jn8's ideas into consideration and agree that there needs to be some white in the Rams' uniforms to align wih the accents i put into the helmet logo. So version 2 of the Rams changes the numbers and adds white to the pant stripe.
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    Wideright updates the NFL

    For the Bengals I wanted to tone down what I view as an excess of elements while preserving those components which I believe work well. So, what we end up with is: 1. A return to a more traditional number font and no drop shadow, I chose a UConn font with rounded top & bottom lines. Not entirely the classic block, but less "curve" than the current number font. . 2. Elimination of the side panels on the jersey, but retaining the sleeves as a black/orange striping instead of just a strip on the shoulders (Esison era). 3. Retained the angular stripe pattern on the pants and the use of white as part of the stripe pattern. 4. White & Black jerseys are the primaries, with orange as an alt. Next up for me, tweaking the Buccs because they are about 1-2 significant changes away from a very good look.
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    Wideright updates the NFL

    Congrats TJSC, the next redesign is, in fact, the Los Angeles Rams. For the Rams I wanted to go back to the Rams I grew up with, the Ferragamo, Flipper Anderson and then Dickerson Rams. I loved the horn pattern sleeves, but I also wanted to keep some modern elements and harken back to their yellow jersey days as well. So, what do we end up with? 1. Modern numbers 2. Darker blue than in the 80's-90's but paired with the athletic gold instead of the more metallic St. Louis gold. 3. The old shoulder horns are back. 4. A yellow alternate jersey. 5. New, angular pant stripe, to keep the theme, but also allow room for the Ram-Head logo on the pants. 6. Just a touch of white added to the helmet horns to add depth and maybe just a bit of a reminder of the Navy-White period. Hope you enjoy them. Our next task, find a happy medium between the Sam Wyche/Boomer Esiason look and the Andy Dalton/Ochocinco look of the Bengals.
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    Wideright updates the NFL

    Next up are the Cleveland Browns. This team needs to get back to something more traditional. So, what I have done is: 1. Returned to a softer orange. 2. Tried to use a consistent striping pattern in all elements 3. Single color numbers & block font 4. Use the B-in-Football logo as the primary, no more helmet-as-logo. Not the flashiest, but I think it is what works for the Brownies, and, of course, they can go all white if they choose, or use the orange pants with the brown jersey. Next up? Will it be the sadly mismatched Rams, the alarm-clock fonted Buccs or the overdone Bengals?
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    Wideright imagines the AAF

    AAF 2019 PLAYOFFS & FINAL STATISTICS ST. LOUIS 10 ORLANDO 27 The Old Ball Coach still has it. That was the verdict after a commanding 27-10 victory by the Orlando Juice over the St. Louis Rampage. Orlando built up a 17-0 lead on the arm of QB Brad Kaaya and never looked back, cruising to a 17 point win. Kaaya would throw for 242 yards and 3 TDs in the game, while the Juice defense held the Rampage offense in check all game. LB Junior Galette was given more freedom to improvise on defense, and he pressured Christian Hackenburg all game, finishing with 2 sacks, a batted pass and 3 hurries. While the Juice rushing game was largely ineffective (as we have almost come to expect), Kaaya was able to connect with both Dontrelle Inman and Stacy Colley for first half TD passes to build up the halftime lead. St. Louis had some late success, but far too little to stop Orlando from moving on to the first AAF Championship, which, due to their league-leading 8-2 record, would be held at Spectrum Stadium. If they get anything like the 40,400 fans that showed up for their first playoff game, home field could be a huge factor for the Juice. SAN DIEGO 16 SAN ANTONIO 24 While the Surf were game all evening, the San Antonio Squadron held onto their home field advantage and parlayed that and a good game from QB Johnny Manziel into a victory and a berth in the AAF Championship. San Diego came out strong on their first drive, with a good mix of passing and rushing which lead to a Javorius Allen 8 yard touchdown run to cap off their first drive. But 3 straight 3-and-outs on ensuing drives gave Manziel and the Squadron the space they needed to build up a 13-8 halftime lead. Manziel would finish the game 18-27 for 220 yards, but 3 of those completions were for TD’s, including two to his TE, former Cowboy Gavin Escobar. As the Surf tried to rally, QB Cody Kessler started to make mistakes, two of which ended up in the hands of Squadron CB Jamar Taylor. While the game never got out of hand, San Antonio never relinquished their lead and when Manziel took a knee on the final play the 37,050 in the Alamo Dome celebrated not only a championship spot, but the resurgence of the former Texas A&M signal caller as well. ORLANDO 23 SAN ANTONIO 15 A sellout crowd in Orlando watched as their hometown team, the Orlando Juice, led by former Florida QB and Coach Steve Spurrier, captured the inaugural league crown and bragging rights as the Champions of Spring Football. Orlando and San Antonio played a good game all the way until the end, but in the end it was the surprise star of the league, former Miami Hurricane Brad Kaaya, who outshone the Golden Boy, Johnny Manziel to take home the crown. Kaaya finished the game with 268 yards passing and 2 TDs while Manziel was held scoreless, despite 146 yards receiving from Squadron wideout Michael Floyd. The Juice played a bend-but-don’t break defense, which allowed the Squadron to move the ball, but which ate up the clock and tightened whenever San Antonio crossed into fieldgoal territory. The result was 3 FG for the Squadron, while Orlando found the endzone on two first half drives, including a beautiful Kaaya to Inman 51 yard slant&go pattern turned TD. The game stayed close throughout, with San Antonio finally getting their first TD 9 minutes into the 3rd quarter on a 1 yard Joe Banyard plunge. But, the Juice scored on the very next drive on a swing pass from Kaaya to RB Matt Jones that took the ball to the house from 14 yards out. Both defenses held the other teams in check for the remainder of the game, and when Manziel’s 4th & 4 pass to Floyd was broken up by Juice Safety Kenny Vacarro with 1:22 left, the Juice were able to kneel their way to a championship. Kaaya was named the Championship MVP, a nice prize after finishing 2nd to Manziel in the League MVP vote. For Steve Spurrier it was a welcome return to football in Florida. In the post-game interview, Spurrier was already thinking about 2020, stating that he hoped to do some scouting during NFL OTA’s and training camp, but only after a few weeks off and a few well-earned rounds of golf. And so the first season of the AAF came to a close, and what a season it was. With attendance, TV ratings and national interest far exceeding expectations, the AAF seems poised for the challenge of the 2020 arrival of the XFL. Expansion to Tucson and Atlanta are already in the works, a new, more lucrative contract with CBS is in place and the league seems to have found a formula for successful spring football. Time will tell, but the 2019 was about as strong a start as any new league could hope to have. 2019 AAF AWARD WINNERS LEAGUE MVP: J. Manziel, QB, San Antonio Squadron COACH OF THE YEAR: S. Spurrier, Orlando Juice 2019 AAF FINAL LEAGUE LEADERS PASSING 1. J. Manziel-SAN 94.5 rating---2214 yards 18 TDs 2. C. McCoy-ALB 92.4 rating---1,274 yards 9 TDs 3. B. Kaaya-ORL 89.6 rating---2018 yards 14 TDs 4. C. Hackenburg—STL 84.7 rating---1866 yards 11 TDs 5. C. Kaepernick---SAC 83.2 rating---2322 yards 13 TDs RUSHING 1. T. Richardson-MEM 902 yards 7TDs 2. O. Darkwa—NOR 877 yards 6TDs 3. B. Rainey—STL 862 yards 4TDs 4. D. Pumphrey—SDG 802 yards 5TDs 5. J. Langford—ALB 779 yards 4TDs RECEIVING 1. K. Aiken—SAC 67 Rec 922 yards 9 TDs 2. M. Floyd—SAN 61 Rec 855 yards 5 TDs 3. D. Inman—ORL 58 Rec 802 yards 6 TDs 4. E. Rogers---MEM 51 Rec 622 yards 2 TDs 5. S. Coley---ORL 44 Rec 702 yards 3 TDs DEFENSE 1. Arthur Moats, LB, ALB 8.5 sacks 2. Jordan Tripp, LB, STL 8 sacks 3. Chris Ringo, DT, NOR 6.5 sacks 1. J. Furman, CB, SDG 6 Int 2. L. Webb, CB, STL 6 Int 3. A. Crawford, CB, MEM 4 Int