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    San Diego Padres focus-grouping new uniforms for 2020

    Let me add another yes to the multitude.
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    College Football uniforms- 2018

    Words to live by.
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    San Diego Padres focus-grouping new uniforms for 2020

    I know it's a different team, but can we get some dopey birds up there?
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    NFL 2018 changes

    Wow. I clicked expecting to roll my eyes at the usual fluff and nonsense, but you were right... not too much to argue with there. Could've been written by a regular from this board. Outdated modernism, Nike hatchet jobs, and clunky fauxbacks pretty much sums it up.
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    2018 NFL Offseason

    First ballot, Homey!
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    Oldschoolvikings' NHL concepts - Flames concept added 7/14/18

    Just trying something different, I guess. I don't have an issue with the current logo, I just wanted to try a different "C".
  7. I've never posted a hockey concept before. I just recently got a template together, so I thought I'd try it out. I had a lot of fun making it. Thoughts?
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    2018 NFL Offseason

    Yeah, I'm not sure what the problem is. Owens decided to be a petty jackass, and the HOF decided to be a petty jackass back. It's a wash... move on.
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    2018 NFL Offseason

    A HOF caliber wide receiver having to wait two whole years to get in??? That's outrageous! That's unconscionable! That's... no, wait... I'm sorry, that's just how it pretty much works for every one not named Rice.
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    Oldschoolvikings' NHL concepts - Flames concept added 7/14/18

    I'm not sure I like the extra color in the logo... thoughts?
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    Los Angeles Lakers 2018-19 Uniform Discussion

    Like the jersey... Hate the shorts.
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    College Football uniforms- 2018

    Nice. I especially appreciate the fact that they chose to display this update with the red-over-red-over-white combo. Of course, it could mean nothing but it does give hope that they might not be inclined to go with so much little-league monocrap.
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    NFL Increases Use of Alternate Uniforms in 2018

    Sure, but if you ever do get a project like that, please post it here. I'm sure we will all find it infinitely more interesting than the A+ paper about the four P's.
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    NFL Increases Use of Alternate Uniforms in 2018

    Oh, OK... I finally get it! I guess I wasn't paying enough attention as the conversation veered into this "good or bad for branding" stuff, which wasn't really my initial concern. So, no, I'm not particularly concerned about a slippery slope towards lost merch revenue (not my problem) or decreased viewership (ditto)... my beef is very specifically as a jersey snob. Yes, my worry is that, with these relaxed uniform rules, when I tune into an NFL game I'll be more likely to see bad uniforms. And seeing bad uniforms affects my enjoyment of the game. In my opinion, when teams are limited to one "real" uniform, they will tend to respect that uniform, and the tradition behind it, and, yes, the brand it carries, which makes it less likely they'll do something stupid with it. More choices for alternates means more "pushing the envelope", more "let's get the player's opinions", more "the kids will love it"... more s#!tty uniforms. And allowing teams to wear their s#!tty alternates more often means I have to see them more often. So, here's the slippery slope... 10 years ago, when the Bears played at the Packers, it was guaranteed to be a gorgeous game. But for the past few years, one or both teams have blessed us with a crappy throwback. And, adding more alternates and relaxing the rules on how often they can be worn makes it more likely that this will continue. (Having said all that, I still come down more on the side of Ice Cap, Gothamite, and BBTV as regards to more alternate looks being bad for branding... how can it not be?)
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    NFL Increases Use of Alternate Uniforms in 2018

    Until the rules change allowing teams to have more than one bad alternate, and allowing the team to wear them more often. So, you know... slippery slope.
  16. A stripe would help. The biggest complaints I have with their black pants is, A. They only have the black socks, and solid color socks and pants is always a terrible look, and, B. They insist on wearing the black pants and jersey together, which, again, is always a terrible look. Sure, add a stripe to the pants, but also get some actual road socks, and stop wearing all black at home. (Also, match the helmet and pants stripes, match the golds, lose the collar...)
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    A Collection of Irrationally Bad Logos from Amateur Sports

    I think I get it... he's drinking from a partially buried Big Gulp cup, right?
  18. I'm not sure why anybody would be looking forward to the Saints wearing the all black leotards. Gold pants... always.
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    NFL Increases Use of Alternate Uniforms in 2018

    Sure, not every team. But given the option, some will take it. This is why it's called a "slippery slope"; In 2000 (I'm pretty sure), every team had one dark jersey and one white jersey. Then the NFL gave teams the option to add an alternate, either a throwback or a recoloring of the primary. The rules were fairly strict... wear it only twice and only at home. Then (slippery slope) teams started to wear them on the road, occasionally (Carolina specifically). What's the big deal, right? Except that then becomes the new normal, the new envelope to be pushed against. Fast forward to 2015. We get color rush, allowing teams, if they choose, to have four jerseys (slippery slope)... home, road, alternate/throwback, and color rush (for the record, by my quick count, 12 teams fall into this 4-jersey category). At first, the rules are again fairly strict... non-color rush alternates can only be worn twice, color rush jerseys can only be worn in specifically designated color rush games. Now, the color rush "experiment" is proven to be a big "who cares" for 99% of NFL fans, so it's tossed. However, teams still want to sell... um, I mean wear their color rush jersey, so (very slippery slope) we now get a further relaxing of the rules, to the point where a team like the Rams can have a jersey that's technically their primary, and literally never wear it. The problem is that once everyone gets used to a new normal, if a team wants to push the boundaries, there's no where to go but further. That's why Oregon (since you mentioned them) became such a visual mess a few years ago... they tried so hard to stay ahead of everyone else (and everyone else tried so hard to catch up with them) that they tripped right over their own cutting edge. The one helmet rule (or as I like to call it, the Righteous, Majestic, God-Given ONE HELMET RULE!) is the only thing saving the NFL from looking as stupid and chaotic as MLB (where on any given night two teams can play each other while both wearing blue jerseys) or the NBA (where every team has at least one jersey that makes it impossible for anyone who isn't a diehard fan to even know who the F they are). So... "is it really a slippery slope?" Yes... it's the exact definition of slippery slope.
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    NFL Increases Use of Alternate Uniforms in 2018

    Slippery slopes suck.
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    Oldschoolvikings' NHL concepts - Flames concept added 7/14/18

    Damn. OK, you have a good eye for colors... that's a beautiful color scheme.
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    Oldschoolvikings' NHL concepts - Flames concept added 7/14/18

    I was just looking at that concept on my tablet and the blue looks very different from what it does on my computer... I guess that's pretty common. (Not that you'd necessarily like it better, but still...) The stripes are supposed to relate to the lines from sheet music... that might be a bit to "Nikespeak" though.
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    Oldschoolvikings' NHL concepts - Flames concept added 7/14/18

    Yeah, I know I'm pushing it with the purple. That seems to be a pretty common reaction to that particular concept (and I've recently been told I take criticism so poorly I should be ashamed!) and your dark teal is an interesting thought. I'll give it a go. The purple/cardinal idea is something that's been stuck in my head for like 20 years, and I just keep trying to make it work. Back in the 90's I worked with a guy who had played football at a tiny school in Indiana called St. Josephs, and he told me their colors were purple and cardinal, and I was just fascinated. How would that even happen? I've been trying to find a pro team to force it onto ever since. (I've got a purple/cardinal Arizona Diamondbacks concept somewhere, too.) But maybe I'll try a few other colors in it's place... just not black.
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    Oldschoolvikings' NHL concepts - Flames concept added 7/14/18

    Years ago when I started this thread I posted an Arizona Coyotes uniform that I was rather fond of... you can find it back on page two. Anyway, with the Coyotes recently bringing back the Kachina sweaters, I was thinking about how much fun their original look was. That made me want to revisit my concept, but see if the old logos might work with it. Results below;