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  1. FightingGoldenDevil

    College Football uniforms- 2018

    I don't know if it's too early to start this thread but I'm going to kick it off anyways. There are rumors that PJ Fleck is going to completely overhaul Minnesota's uniforms next year. Georgia Tech will be with adidas next year.
  2. rsaline

    2018/19 Soccer Kits

    I haven't seen a 2018/19 thread, but I have seen 2018/19 kits. So I figured I'd start. Chelsea: PSG: Tottenham clash:
  3. The 1991 and '92 seasons in the World League went as scheduled. The London Monarchs shut out the Barcelona Dragons 21-0 to win the first World Bowl in front of the London faithful at Wembley. The Sacramento Surge defeated the Orlando Thunder 21-17 in Montreal to win World Bowl '92. There was talk about shelving the World League to retool it without any of the North American teams, but the NFL owners ran in to resistance. The sports talk radio stations in Birmingham, San Antonio, Orlando and the other North American markets were dumbfounded by the amount of angry phone calls. Europe also had its share of angry fans calling to their local radio stations, especially in London where a few passionate Monarch fans express concerns that any time taken off to retool would hurt their team's fan support. After the backlash reached uncomfortable levels, the NFL owners voted 25 to 2 with one abstention to keep the WLAF open for '93. When the NFL announced it would expand by 2 teams for 1995, Memphis was in the running for a short while until potential owner and FedEx founder Fred Smith picked up the paper one day. The Memphis Commercial Appeal ran a survey that revealed a large number of Memphis fans were unwilling to pay hefty NFL ticket prices. Smith, who was to co-own the Memphis franchise with Elvis Presley Enterprises, offered to drop his NFL expansion bid in exchange for an expansion franchise in the World League. When the NFL owners agreed in August of '92 to keep the World League up and running for '93, Smith paid a handsome, generous expansion fee split among the WLAF teams already in existence. Smith chose the "Hound Dogs" as the team's nickname and the colors chosen were forest green and copper. Bidding is still open for the second expansion team that'll join the Hound Dogs in 1993. Among the bids are Amsterdam, Edinburgh, Paris, Milan, Mexico City, Omaha and a bid from Raleigh-Durham looking to revive the Skyhawks. WORLD BOWL CHAMPS 1991: London Monarchs 1992: Sacramento Surge 1993: Amsterdam Admirals 1994: Ohio Glory 1995: Amsterdam Admirals 1996: London Monarchs 1997: Amsterdam Admirals 1998: Orlando Thunder 1999: Raleigh-Durham Skyhawks GREY CUP CHAMPIONS 2000 Memphis Hound Dogs 2001 Montreal Alouettes 2002: Amsterdam Admirals 2003: Ottawa Renegades 2004 Teams EUROPEAN East Amsterdam Admirals Frankfurt Galaxy Rhein Rhythm Stockholm Aesir West Dublin Druids London Monarchs Scottish Claymores Manchester Machine Central Barcelona Dragons Paris Musketeers Rome Centurions Milan Vipers CANADIAN East Montreal Alouettes Ottawa Renegades Toronto Argonauts Atlantic Schooners Central Hamilton Tiger Cats Saskatchewan Roughriders Winnipeg Blue Bombers Thunder Bay Muskies West BC Lions Boise Miners Calgary Stampeders Edmonton Eskimos AMERICAN East Baltimore Stallions Ohio Glory Orlando Thunder Raleigh-Durham Skyhawks Central Birmingham Fire Memphis Hound Dogs Oklahoma Wranglers San Antonio Texans West Las Vegas Outlaws Los Angeles Avengers Mexico City Aztecs Sacramento Surge
  4. Starting around the Spring of 2013, I began developing a fictional football league, the American Football Association. Over the next year, I worked on a few different versions of it, but generally focused more on simulating seasons with dice and developing a narrative go go along with it. Any graphic elements were extremely basic, and usually done in Paint or Microsoft Office. However, by the Spring of 2014, I had decided to learn how to use Photoshop, and determined that developing logos and uniforms for the AFA was an excellent way to get practice (though after about a month I realized that Illustrator was a better fit for my needs than Photoshop). Starting in 1946, I began designing logos and uniforms for each team. I simulate each season (see the "Running the AFA" spoiler for details on the process), and write a narrative explaining the events. As I write this in September of 2017, the project is nearly 3.5 years old, and I have progressed to the 1986 season, rebranding teams whenever it has been appropriate. I am looking for feedback and criticism for every aspect of the designs, from the template (which is based largely on the one used by the gridiron uniform database) to the specifics details of how I put together each team. A note to new readers: This thread has gotten pretty long. If you would like to get caught up on the story or the evolution of team logos or uniforms without reading through the entire thread, see the links to google drive below Running the AFA. The year is: 1989 Current Divisions and Teams If anyone finds a bad link anywhere below, please send me a PM to let me know so that I can fix it. Thank you. Running the AFA History of Each Team's Logos: History of Each Team's Uniforms: List of Victory Bowls: Narrative History of the AFA: 1946-1970: 1961-current: You can also find signatures, player illustrations, uniforms, and logos on my Deviant Art. Championships by Team:
  5. ACC American Atlantic: Boston College | Clemson | Florida State | Louisville | NC State | Syracuse | Wake Forest West: Houston | Memphis | Navy | SMU | Tulane | Tulsa Coastal: Duke | Georgia Tech | Miami | North Carolina | Pittsburgh | Virginia | Virginia Tech East: Cincinnati | Connecticut | East Carolina | Temple | UCF | USF Big Ten Big XII East: Indiana | Maryland | Michigan | Michigan State | Ohio State | Penn State | Rutgers Baylor | Iowa State | Kansas | Kansas State | Oklahoma | Oklahoma State | Texas | TCU | Texas Tech | West Virginia West: Illinois | Iowa | Minnesota | Nebraska | Northwestern | Purdue | Wisconsin C-USA Division 1 Independents East: Charlotte | FAU | FIU | Marshall | Middle Tennessee | Old Dominion | WKU Army | BYU | New Mexico State | Notre Dame | UMass | Idaho* | Liberty (2019) West: Louisiana Tech | North Texas | Rice | Southern Miss | UAB | UTEP | UTSA MAC Mountain West East: Akron | Bowling Green | Buffalo | Kent State | Miami (OH) | Ohio Mountain: Air Force | Boise State | Colorado State | New Mexico | Utah State | Wyoming West: Ball State | Central Michigan | Eastern Michigan | NIU | Toledo | Western Michigan West: Fresno State | Hawai'i | Nevada | San Diego State | San Jose State | UNLV Pac 12 SEC North: Cal | Oregon | Oregon State | Stanford | Washington | Washington State East: Florida | Georgia | Kentucky | Mizzou | South Carolina | Tennessee | Vanderbilt South: Arizona | Arizona State | Colorado | UCLA | USC | Utah West: Alabama | Arkansas | Auburn | LSU | Ole Miss | Mississippi State | Texas A&M Sun Belt West: Arkansas State | Louisiana-Lafayette | Louisiana-Monroe | South Alabama | Texas State East: Appalachian State | Coastal Carolina | Georgia Southern | Georgia State | Troy Alright everyone. This is a big one. I've had the bits and pieces of this one working for two and half years and I finally feel ready enough to get this one out to the public. This project began when I wondered one day what would happen if Nike did something ludicrous and somehow managed to get apparel rights to every single FBS level team. Of course this is seemingly impossible in the real world, but it was fun to think about. Then I took it one step further. Not only would get every FBS football team, but if every FBS football team also had a Division 1 basketball, baseball and hockey team for Nike to get their hands on. So the goal here is one, to actually finish this idea, but more than that, is to see if I can create a unique identity for 130 some teams across 4 different sports. This means that some traditional looks will be changed slightly and some might change drastically. Nevertheless, I'm excited to get this off the ground and share it with you guys. Teams will be posted as I get them done and will be done in a random order I have created with some help from the internet and first up is the Ohio Bobcats of the MAC: (I also will create one of these cool team headers for every team). Ohio's sports have a rather laid back and simplistic look to them. Even with adidas/Russell at the helm of their apparel, they don't have too crazy of a look and I kept that in mind as I designed their uniforms for this. Keeping that in mind, I left their football uniforms pretty much the same as they have been the last couple years. Biggest change here is the addition of real pants stripes as opposed to no stripes or very short stripes. I limited black to an alternate set that would hopefully be worn separately, but in the current state of college football we all know that wouldn't happen. The hockey uniforms are very similar to how the football uniforms go. I did consider shoulder logos for them but I didn't keep them, as it just didn't feel right to me. Baseball uniforms again are very simple and consistent with the rest of the uniforms. Biggest thing here and across the board is that there is no longer a "grey away" designation. Unless a team has grey in their set, I won't be giving a team a grey uniform for baseball. Basketball is consistent with the rest. I didn't want to go full Celtics with Ohio, so the double stripe pattern is on the shoulders and the collar trim is a solid color. On the shorts the waistband is striped and the hem is a solid color. C&C is welcome as always. Given the larger nature of this thread, I'll try and get the next team up as soon as I can.
  6. Today I will be starting my first series on the boards; the Football League of America (FLA). In this timeline, the NFL went under due to WWII and many players going to fight in the war. The league lost enough revenue, and eventually started losing money, causing more than 2/3 of the teams to fold and the league to end with them (in 1943). After a few years of no professional football, a new league, the FLA, was started up with 8 original teams, split up into Eastern and Western divisions. League Scheduling (1946-) - Teams play 8 games each. - Teams play each team in their division twice. - Teams play two non-division games. - There is a 4-team playoff at the end of each season. - East #1 plays East #2, West #1 plays West #2. - Semifinal games are played at the higher seed's home field. - Winners of each games play in the "FLA Cup." - The FLA Cup is played at a predetermined neutral site, voted on before the regular season. The current year is: 1946-47 Teams Team Success: The templates I use for my uniforms are based off the templates at I made my own modifications to make them cleaner and better to use. I use to simulate every game for every season. Right now its only 32 games, but that number will grow quickly as I plan to expand the league as soon as possible. I've been working on the teams for a few weeks, and as of right now (July 12, 2018), I am near completion on the teams' logos and uniforms. I will hopefully have all 8 teams' finished and unveiled by the end of the week. Any C&C on the logos, uniforms, team names, etc. is greatly appreciates.
  7. Discrimihater

    Missouri football

    Hadn't had any good concept ideas for a few months, largely because the time I'd normally use for them, I've instead focused on custom teams and boards for Techno Bowl (hell, I've actually gotten a game in ), but a couple days ago, I doodled something down that I thought could work for Missouri. A little bit later, here it is. Inspired by Faurot Field's diamond endzones, the helmet and pants feature diamonds in lieu of stripes. The sleeve numbers are also on a diamond, though early on, I decided against doing the same on the torso for obvious reasons. The diamond theme continues with the alts, though kicked up a notch in different ways. The alt helmet encases the tiger in a black diamond, and the dark alt uses an elongated diamond on the torso, with ghosted tigers on the sleeves. The light alternate, as you can see, would probably look more at home at the Kentucky Derby...or, now that I think about it, Murray State. It should go without saying, but people don't read posts anymore :p ...the alt helmet can be worn with either of the main jerseys and vice versa, the pants can be swapped, and rebates suck. Post, speak, and yell words.
  8. I created this template using the images of the new Washington Huskies uniforms. You can change the colors of the gloves and socks. The shoes just remain black. If you see something you want to fix go ahead and let me know so I can fix it and upload it again! Thanks for checking it out! The socks will be darker than what you intend them to be. For some reason they would not go any lighter than that. There was not a good image of the back of the jersey so it could not be added. This is a PSD Download Link:
  9. In an alternate timeline where the National Football League never came to fruition, the American Football League (creative, I know) became the premier professional football league in the United States. Founded after World War II, in 1946, the AFL was formed from the remnants of the Midwest Professional Football League and the Eastern Football Association. Spearheaded by the Chicago Lions owner, Rupert T. Anderson, the AFL originally consisted of eight teams spread throughout the Midwest and Eastern seaboard and added two more teams, to bring the league to 10 members in 1948. Initially, the AFL struggled, but in 1950, attendance began to pick up as football fans realized that the AFL was playing quality football and the League took off, going on to expand 9 more times until 2002, when it reached its current state of 32 teams. Unlike the NFL, in our reality, the AFL does not have conferences. Instead, the league consists of 8 divisions: East, West, North, South, Pacific, Great Lakes, Atlantic, and Central. Each division has four member teams, which allows the 16 game schedule to break down like this: 6 division games (2 against each team) 4 games vs another division (yearly rotation) 6 games vs one team in remaining divisions (yearly rotation) The playoffs are an 8 team tournament consisting of division winners, culminating in the American Bowl (once again, very creative). Playoff teams are seeded 1-8 based on overall record, head-to-head, and playoff points (sum of opponents wins), as a tiebreaker. Now that I have gotten through some basic background of the league, let's move on to the meat of the project, the teams themselves. As far as uniform standards go, the rules are very similar to the NFL. One alternate or throwback uniform is allowed to be worn one time during the course of the regular season, but never in the post season. No manufacturer's mark is allowed on the uniform either, but the league does have a single uniform supplier, Apex Athletics, this Alternate Universe's equivalent to Nike or Adidas. The first division that I'll be presenting is the Great Lakes Division, home to three of the oldest teams in the American Football League. The Chicago Lions are one of the Charter members of the AFL and have been one of the most historically successful teams in the league. Having fallen upon hard times in recent years, the one bright spot in recent memory for Lions fans has been Randall Walker, perennial All-Pro running back and future Hall of Famer. The uniforms are a classic design in classic colors and have remained essentially unchanged for over 50 years, aside from an update to the logo in 2007. The Lions don't wear an alternate uniform and wear only one pair of pants. Another Charter member of the AFL, The Detroit Panthers derive their team logo and colors from the automotive industry. The Panthers sport a rather traditional uniform with simple striping and no embellishment. The Milwaukee Chiefs wear black and orange and are represented by a Native American Indian chief on their helmet and a drum logo on the sleeves. the uniform features a consistent, traditional striping pattern across all elements and colors. The alternate uniform is a throwback to the uniforms the team wore in its early years with legendary Head Coach, Chip Hansen. Todd Wolters is the Chiefs' star veteran quarterback who lead the team to American Bowl Championships in 2009 and 2011. The Minnesota Bruins are the youngest of the teams in the Great Lakes Division, being established in 1977. The team recently removed its northwester stripe from the sleeves and added their iconic bear paw logo to the sleeves. Mark Denton is the Bruins star Middle Linebacker, one of the more popular players in the league, known for his mullet haircut and extensive use of eye-black. Well, Tha'ts it for the Great Lakes Division. Thanks for taking a look and I am really looking forward to seeing what everyone has to say. Any and all comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again.
  10. Hello all. I am working on an “Alternative History” of the USFL, beginning in 1984 and we will see where it takes us. It is all based on the premise that a single historical change can lead to an entirely different outcome. My premise is that John Bassett, owner of the Tampa Bay Bandits and chief opposition to the move to a Fall schedule does not become ill. How could that have changed the USFL’s destiny? I will be going year by year and as teams merge, move, are added or simply change uniforms, I will post any new logos or uniforms, because that is what this board is about, but I will also try to weave in other events, particularly related to the NFL, which might also have altered history. Should be an interesting challenge to the imagination. I may get some facts wrong here and there, and I may go in some directions you don’t think are likely, but it is just a fictional story, so feel free to comment if you think things would have gone differently. 1985: With John Bassett at full strength, there is a strong counterpoint to Donald Trump and the argument that the USFL move to the Fall. Trump loses the vote. The antitrust lawsuit vs. the NFL will go ahead, but the league decides to continue with a Spring schedule. As a result the following changes occurred within the league: Both ABC and ESPN provided the league with new TV Contracts and an influx of nearly $225 million dollars with the proviso that teams remain in both Chicago and Los Angeles. The league agreed to the TV network’s terms and worked to enhance ownership groups in both cities while managing the two franchises’ day to day operations. The league also agrees to develop a more stringent salary cap to help cut down on financial losses, but through a combination of the league’s regional draft, which privileges certain teams with a pipeline to 2-3 local universities, and an exemption policy which allows 2 players per team not to count against the cap, the pace of “big name” signings slows but does not completely end. Without the shift to Fall, ownership groups in Michigan, New Orleans, Philadelphia and Washington did not opt to relocate their franchises for 1985. Due to economic struggles, and ownership interest in larger markets, it was decided that the league would contract by 2 franchises. The Oklahoma Outlaws merged with the undercapitalized San Antonio Gunslingers, to become the San Antonio Outlaws and the Pittsburgh Maulers merged with the struggling Washington Federals, bringing significant football talent to a team which had struggled to win games In its first two seasons. The 1985 Season is played with stronger attendance and ratings than anticipated, perhaps due to the continuity of the ongoing Spring season. Some franchises still struggle for attendance, particularly in Chicago and L.A., who also have weak seasons on the field, but the league is propping up both franchises and TV ratings help to make the case to potential owners for both. SEASON STANDINGS EAST *New Jersey 11-7 *Philadelphia 10-7-1 Jacksonville 8-10 Washington 7-11 SOUTH *Birmingham 12-6 *Memphis 11-7 *Tampa Bay 10-8 New Orleans 6-12 CENTRAL *Michigan 11-6-1 *Houston 10-8 San Antonio 9-9 Chicago 6-12 WEST *Denver 10-8 Oakland 8-10 Arizona 8-10 Los Angeles 6-12 PLAYOFFS: Birmingham d. Houston Michigan d. Tampa Bay Philadelphia d. New Jersey Memphis d. Denver Philadelphia d. Birmingham Michigan d. Memphis CHAMPIONSHIP: Philadelphia 28 Michigan 24 MVP: Herschell Walker (NJ) Coach of the year: Rollie Dotsch (BIR) New Team Uniforms or Identities: San Antonio Outlaws
  11. Continental Spring Football League: Hello folks, thanks you for taking your time to reading this. This is my first time working on a AU league and since football is popular here I would do one over American Football. So instead of saying the NFL ended or never existed. I decided to work on one where it would be it natural rival. My league is called the CSFL. As usual im looking for feedback and criticism from my work and while im not great at logos.. I wanted to tell a story and that what I will do. This is my project here and I hope you enjoy. PS.. Im not always great with update so it will be done when I can get it done. Thank you and now for the story! The story begins in late 1953. The National Football League survive the two World Wars and a war with the All-American Football Conference. The AAFC would merge with the established NFL in 1950 but it would be a short sided merge with for the AAFC. The NFL decided to take the best teams in the league and would ignore the rival history. So by the 1953 the NFL would regain control of all of football in United States. However, that same year, a new idea came to the mind of former owner of the LA Dons of the AAFC. His name was Fernando Gonzalez III and he the first man to create Spring-Time Football. He got to work with two other owner of the AAFC, the original Buffalo Bills owner, James Breuil and former owner of the AAFC New York Yankees, Dan Toppings. All three men were mad at the NFL for treating the AAFC like it was nothing. The decided to called the league the Continental Spring Football League. While Fernando Gonzalez III became the first president of the new league. They still needed to figure out a catch to make the new league fun to watch compared to the National Football League. Gonzalez would come up with a brilliant idea for the league. Including having a 14 week schedule so the fans can see more football and would give them more income as well with the extra games. Other innovations include having names on the back of jerseys and creating the two-point conversion to pro football. He also help work out a deal with ABC and the Dumont Network to broadcast the games on Saturday. Which was new and a bit crazy for the upstart league since Saturdays were reserve to College Football. However, due to playing during the Spring they wouldn’r have to deal with competing with College Football. Gonzalez, with Breuil and Toppings, got to work finding new owners for the league. While Gonzalez had the Los Angeles market locked thanks to Bob Hope helping to investing in a team in Los Angeles. James Breuil decided to revive the Buffalo Bills since they were still fondly remembered in Buffalo. Dan Toppings, on the other hand, had issues. Given the fact that Yankees Stadium was lost to the New York Giants. He was forced to go to the Polo Grounds, home of the MLB Giants and set up shop there. He decided to change his team nickname from the Yankees to the New York Titans to rival the NFL Giants. Other owners would soon come, interested in challenging the NFL and filling up their stadium during the Spring. Some of the owners also has Baseball teams in the MLB or the Minor Leagues with Stadiums that could hold a football team. One of the owners were, August A, Busch Jr, was the owners of the St Louis Cardinals of the MLB. He was looking for something to fill the Busch Stadium up while the Cardinals were away. The St Louis team also used a name similar to the Cardinals, the Redbirds. List of owners for the first season in 1955. East Division: New York Titans – Polo Grounds (Dan Toppings) Brooklyn Liberty – Ebbets Fields (James & Dearie Mulvey) Buffalo Bills – War Memorial Stadium (James Breuil) Pittsburgh Iron – Forbes Field (Josh Harnell) Baltimore Stampeders - Baltimore Memorial Stadium (David Greene) Western Division: St Louis Redbirds – Busch Stadium (August A. Busch Jr) Cincinnati Tigers – Crosley Field (Powel Crosley Jr) Shreveport Showboats – State Fair Stadium (Eric Ritcherson) Houston Gunners – Buffalo Stadium (Marty Marion) Los Angeles Dons – Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum (Fernando Gonzalez III) With the teams set, the CSFL went on a talent raid over the NFL. Which took a toll on the NFL after Baltimore Stampeders signed some of the NFL Colts players to join the new league. Same with the Pittsburgh Iron taking rookie HB of the rival Steelers Johnny Lattner and LA Dons taking star QB Norm Van Brocklin from the rival Rams. The rest were college players who were rejected from the NFL and journeymen players looking for their big break. Despite the setback in Baltimore, the National Football League wasn't too worried about the new league like last time. And with them playing in the spring time, they doubt the CSFL will last. After the CSFL draft that happened in December of 1954, Gonzalez, announced the league will begin in March and last to June when the play off finals begins. CSFL 1955 Final Season East Division W L T Buffalo Bills 10 4 0 New York Titans 9 5 0 Pittsburgh Iron 7 7 0 Brooklyn Liberty 3 10 1 Baltimore Stampeders 1 12 1 West Division W L T St Louis Redbirds 12 2 0 Los Angeles Dons 11 3 0 Houston Gunners 8 6 0 Shreveport Showboats 4 10 0 Cincinnati Tigers 3 11 0 The East Division was a close three house race at first between Pittsburgh, New York and Buffalo. By the end of the season, Buffalo with their QB Johnny Vegas and their ace journeyman CB Kevin Daniels help the Bills gain the East Division title from New York. The oddity of the season was the only tie this season between Brooklyn and Baltimore. It was in the final week before playoffs and both teams had nothing to lose so they gave an impressive performance, the game ended with a 14-14 tie in front of a small crowd in Baltimore. The West Division was the same story but with just two teams. It was neck to neck with St Louis and Los Angeles bidding to be the west division champions. However during the final week, the Dons lost a fumble to Cincinnati and on the next turn, the Tigers scored a touchdown and kept it to win the game 21-14. This gave the Redbirds the championship and to challenge the Bills to the CSFL Championship. CSFL Championship Game from Buffalo, New York St. Louis Redbirds Buffalo Bills 14 7 St Louis, led by George Shaw would score two touchdowns during the forth quarter to help give the Redbird their first title. Shaw would be named Championship MVP by the CSFL. Despite a rocky start with the attendance to some stadiums like the Shreveport State Fair Stadium and Houston Buffalo Stadium. The CSFL would be a surprise success thanks to it TV ratings. Which while it didn’t give the MLB or even the NFL a run for it money. It would be proof that the CSFL is here to stay for another season. While Gonzalez would find it hard to own the league while owning the LA Dons, would post his team up for sale by the end of season. With a clause that the new owners would have to keep the team in LA. Despite taking some of the players of the Baltimore Colts, the Stampeders would be a flop on the field and in the box office. David Greene, the owner of the struggling team, would also post his team to sell them. What would the CSFL have in store in the next season. Stay tune. (I am learning how to use gimp to make logos and such but for now, enjoy my drawing folks. Also comment and give me some opinions on what you think about it.)
  12. CrimsonBull9584

    Football in Japan

    As I've made clear for some time, I'm a big fan of football and I'm currently living in Japan. To my surprise, I found that there is a big following of American football here and there are LOTS of colleges and universities that play football here. There is even a pro league and a championship game that pits the college champion vs the pro champion. It's call the Rice Bowl. I thought I would take the opportunity to share some of the cool logos and uniforms of all the teams from Japan. I'm going to start out going league by league and providing the top tier or division 1 teams first, then work my way down to any other teams that may be interesting to share. I hope you guys enjoy it and maybe it might open you up to learning more about American football here in Japan.
  13. On April 21, 2001 at the conclusion of the first of that American staple we call "The Big Game at the End", as we watched the Xtreme lift that big X over their heads, we thought that the XFL would be taken away from us forever. But apparently, there are rumblings that the X Football League might be fixin' to make a comeback! Now if that's true, which I hope it is, first of all I'll be tuning in for sure, and second of all they're gonna have to tone down the 2001 more than a few notches. Especially with NFL ratings in steep decline this season, this is the perfect time for Vince McMahon to swoop in and create the Anti-NFL, or the Xtra-Fun League, if you will. But image is everything. And safety, safety's probably in there somewhere too. We'll see. So I want to get way out ahead of the rumors and set up what I think would be a fitting return for the XFL 18 years later. I'm not gonna quibble over the actual rulebook, I'll let them figure that out, but I do know what I'd like to see design wise. Here are my design rules: 1. There are no rules! Actually, there are a few. They're right here. 2. No white allowed. Off-white is allowed in small doses, as well as silver, but stark white is not allowed on Logos, Uniforms, or Merchandise of any kind. 3. Helmets are a canvas. No more small, tame, rinky-dink helmet logos. Helmets should be loud and expressive of a team's design, serving as the centerpiece of their uniform. 4. 3 logos per team, no more and no less. They are as follows; Insignia: main logo, Proxy: secondary, Character: letter logo 5. 3 uniforms per team, no more and no less. They are as follows; Base: worn at home, Clash: worn on the road, Army: outside the box third jersey worn at home. 6. Unique NOBs are still allowed, but have to be approved before being applied to jersey. So there you have 'em, my official design rules for the XFL! I'll be following these closely for all eight teams (more on teams ahead). The New Official Logos of the XFL The original XFL logo was rushed and horrible, so I wanted to make a logo that would completely change people's view of the league. Modernized, but as no nonsense as always. This was my creative process, pardon the roughness. Early thoughts were that I'd like to include a lightning bolt in the X or make the X from negative space, but I ended up choosing something closest to the lowest logo on the center left because I liked the unique shape and inclusion of a football. After some retooling, I ended up with a result I'm really happy with that includes an Insignia, Proxy, and Character logo for the league. The Insignia uses a combo football/shield shape with half of the X made by stitches; football or otherwise. Teams Here's the thing, I don't know the teams yet. I know the cities, but I don't know the teams. The reason being this is going to be a step-by-step project so I'll be including my entire process, part of which is choosing the names of all 8 teams. I'd love to hear any names you can come up with as well! Here are the eight locations: Boston (new) Chicago Detroit (new) Las Vegas California New York St. Louis (new) Texas (new) So there it is, The new XFL! What do you think of the idea, setup, and first trio of logos? Your feedback is incredibly important to me, so don't hold back with the C&C! Thanks guys, and stay tuned for Boston!
  14. HuntTheJones

    High School Redesign: The Gators

    I want to first start out by saying that I will try to make this long story a short one, but if I am unsuccessful in that I do apologize ahead of time. With that being said, this design started with a request from a high school to help them create a new logo and brand. The school's nickname is Gators, so like most high schools with that name they used the different variations of Florida's walking gator and gator head logos, as well as the Georgia/Green Bay "G" for their own branding. My task was to create something unique to this school, but not lose that basic identity that had been established, and create a "gator G" described to me as a "G" logo that is a gator. So, my designs were by request heavily influenced by Florida's. After investing a lot of time and effort into this new "brand" for said school and submitting my work, a new logo was passed and approved without my prior knowledge that was in fact not what I had been working on for months. After that, this become sort of a personal design project that I would continue and try to perfect, so here I am seeking some constructive criticism or compliments on that work so far. C&C, please! I will start off with the colors. The school's primary colors are Navy and Gold, with White as a third. The color in the small circle is meant to be a varying shade of the primary in order to be used in ways that enhance the look, but do not dominate it. I added Green as a color simply because, in my mind, gators are green in logos. It’s meant to be used throughout this "brand" in the same capacity that Ole Miss uses Powder Blue. The Colors The Logos This first logo is supposed to serve as the primary logo across the board. Above you see it in and on various color combinations. Yes, this is visually similar to Florida's walking gator in the fact that they are both Gators in letter-sweaters standing upright, but I tried to make it look a little more, for lack of a better word, amateur because it's meant for a high school team. The other plus to this logo is the opportunity to use the secondary colors (like Volt, Yellow, and Natural) in ways that I think enhance the overall look of the logo. Personally, this guy turned out to be one of my favorites. This second logo is one of the hardest and most thought out I can say I have ever done. This is the one that came from the request to create a "G" that is a gator in one. Design is a constant and ongoing process, and it took me a long time to finally get to this guy. The next evolution of the logo came with the creation of the above “Walking Gator” logo. I decided that if I was going to try and create this “brand” for the Gators, then the actual gator used should be implied as the same gator throughout. So as you will see, the gator head and face are the same in every logo, giving it what I think is a true “brand” look. Another logo used extremely often by teams nicknamed Gators is the Florida Gators primary logo, and like I said, this school was no exception. So again, that was the inspiration behind this logo. As you can see, it’s pretty self-explanatory, and like I said, all gators used in this “brand” are to be implied as the same gator. The next logo is one that had to evolve as I went as well. I’m unsure as to what I want to call it even to this point or what capacity it could be used, so we can just go with the “Gator Script” logo. This is the first logo that includes the whole “GAUTIER” word mark within it, and it is simply meant to resemble a gator as it stalks and swims at the top of the water. Using the last logo as an introduction point, these are the word mark logos for the “brand” in each color combination. The inspiration for these logos came early on in my time at the school when I noticed that the basketball team used a variation of the “flying” Lakers script on their gear. I always knew it was the Lakers design, but in my mind there was something that just screamed Gautier to me about it (maybe because that’s what I grew up seeing them wear when we played them), so I ran with it. As you can see, the font style used above is the same font style found on the Walking Gator’s sweater, the “Gator Script” logo, and the font that will be used in every piece of the Gautier “brand” to come. This next logo is what I call the tagline. I say that because in my head this logo was meant to serve as the main academic logo within the brand. The same way universities use their seal in the top left corner of postage and official academic documents. This is also a logo that sort of developed out of the “Gator Script” logo. The only changes are the implied presence of water under the gator, the loss of the outline, and the addition of “HIGH SCHOOL” at the bottom of the logo. That pretty much does it for the primary logos that make up the brand, so up next are some of the different variations of the above logos, and if this is well received, possibly uniforms, etc. Thanks for the time and the read!
  15. As the CFL season rolls around, I decided to create uniforms for all of the CFL teams for Adidas' Primeknit uniforms because I think they look better than the mesh uniforms currently being worn. The template I am using is a little outdated, but here is what Adidas's new A1 Primeknit uniforms, which will be worn by NCAA teams this fall, look like. Toronto Argonauts
  16. I think the Eagles have a great logo and I'm a big fan of their midnight green color, but I think they just have too much going on with black, charcoal gray and silver accompanying the green. In my opinion, the Eagles look best when they are wearing only green, silver and white, so this concept is more of a clean-up than a full on rebrand. I was also inspired by what the Detroit Lions did with their logo an uniforms this past season. Those are not perfect, but I really like the idea of what the Lions did. Here's my take on the logo: nothing too exciting, the green is a touch more green and the black is gone. The new wordmark is my take on a simpler, less "XTREME" version of the current wordmark and is more in line with the contemporary branding in the NFL: bold, single color lettering with some serifs and a bridge shape to give it some character. Here are the new home and road uniforms. Less is more as the uniforms are reminiscent of the current duds but are without the needless clutter of superfluous colors and embellishment. The Color Rush uniform is gray in the same style of the primary uniforms and the regular alternate uniform is a midnight green version of the classic throwback uniforms thanks to the one-helmet rule. So, thats it. Thanks for taking a look and I'm definitely open to any and all C&C and feedback.
  17. INTRODUCING THE SLAM FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION RULES 1. QB gets 10 seconds (or 10 apples) to throw the football. The QB CANNOT run the football, unless another player has touched the ball (not counting C) or the QB has been rushed. 2. Defense's Pass Interference penalties result in a 15 yard penalty. 3. Safeties are worth 3 points, no PATs, goal line goalposts. 4. 11 Players on the field for each team, 1 for each in the corner. The players in the corner can intercept the ball, and have a 1on1 with the other corner player. TEAMS Northern Division Teams London Jacks, Wembley Stadium, London, England, Blue, Red, White Saskatchewan Beavers, Mosaic Stadium, Saskatchewan, Canada Black and Green Tokyo Neon, Ajinomoto Stadium, Tokyo, Japan Pink, Orange, and a Black Detroit Wheels, Comerica Park (Beginning of Season) and Ford Field (Middle to End of Season), Detroit Michigan Light Blue, Orange, White Eastern Division Teams Hartford Whalers, Pratt & Whitney Stadium, Hartford, Connecticut, Dodger Blue, Whaler Green, and White Atlanta Rappers, Mercedes-Benz Stadium, Atlanta, Georgia, Red, White, and Gold Havana Classics, Estadio Panamericano, Havana, Cuba Mint, Red, Blue, white San Juan Pirates, Juan Ramón Loubriel Stadium, Bayamón, Puerto Rico Purple, Gold, and White Southern Division Sydney Kangaroos, Sydney Cricket Ground, Sydney, Australia Yellow and Green Rio De Janeiro Toucans, Estádio do Maracanã, Rio De Janeiro, Brazil Orange, Yellow, Black Johannesburg Cheetahs, FNB Stadium, Johannesburg, South Africa Yellow, Black, White Santiago Parrots, Estadio Nacional, Santiago, Chile Red, Blue and Yellow Western Division Edmonton Deer, Commonwealth Stadium, Edmonton Canada Carolina Blue, and Yellow Toronto Red Foxes, Rogers Centre, Toronto, Canada Red, Black, Blue, and Gold Phoenix Firebirds, Chase Field, Phoenix, Arizona Red, Teal, Black Mexico City Conquistadors, Estadio Azteca, Mexico City, Mexico, Black, Gold, Red ROSTERS ***As of Day 1*** London Jacks QB Michael Vick QB Drew Stanton Atlanta Rappers QB Quavo QB Tyrod Taylor Sydney Kangaroos QB Mark Sanchez QB Ryan Tannehill Edmonton Deer QB Colt Brennan QB Josh McCown Toronto Red Foxes QB John David Booty QB Tua Tagolovia Havana Classics QB Tony Romo QB Josh Freeman Saskatchewan Beavers QB Brady Quinn QB Blaine Gabbert Rio Toucans QB Nick Foles QB Colin Kaepernick Mexico City Conquistadors QB Eli Manning QB Case Keenum Tokyo Neon QB Vince Young QB Kyle Orton Phoenix Firebirds QB Johnny Manziel QB Julian Edelman Detroit Wheels QB Robert Griffin III QB Aaron Murray Johannesburg Cheetahs QB Tim Tebow QB Kellen Moore Santiago Parrots QB JaMarcus Russell QB Brett Farve Hartford Whalers QB Matt Leinart QB Christian Ponder San Juan Pirates QB Tahj Boyd QB Andrew Luck DISCORD
  18. WideRight

    Wideright updates the NFL

    Thought I would take my shot at "fixing" the Jags, Titans and then maybe a few other NFL teams that just don't feel right to me. First up, the Jags. They want simple, so I give them a simple uniform but not so simple as to look like a Div-2 college. Teal is the primary, black the secondary, and if they feel they must, they can go unitard with all black or all white on a hot August day. I envision the primaries as White jersey-black pants and teal jersey-white pants. Note the angled stripes are on the sleeve cuff, pants and socks.
  19. Artisan219

    Minor League Football

    I've been toying with this project on and off for years. It's something I do every now and again to unwind, and I really wish I put more priority on it, but I digress. Anyway, I've always felt the NFL has demonstrated a need for a minor league. Arguably, the NCAA fills that need, but while college football no doubt produces talent, the NFL lacks the ability to send players back to the minors. Further, I think we may be reaching a point where the NCAA is becoming obsolete. From television contracts, to video games, to merchandise, NCAA football generates billions in revenue. And yet only a small fraction of schools actually reap a profit from their football programs. Football is a sport that epitomizes the pay-to-play idiom, and unsurprisingly, the schools that generate the most money are also the most well-funded. The fact that that funding is allocated out of university budgets is not without controversy. And to exacerbate that issue, the NCAA restrictions on player compensation border on exploitation. In theory, student athletes are compensated via college scholarships, but many schools float student-athletes with made-up course. NCAA scandals are numerous, and it may be past time to separate athletics from academics. This project images a professional league to replace college football, with operations modeled roughly off of minor league baseball. I have a four-tier minor league system in mind, with 128 teams. Some are in markets formally served by the NCAA, and some... not so much. I know 128 sounds like a lot (and it is) but between Division-I FBS, Division-I FCS, Division II, and Division III, it's not like the NCAA doesn't have hundreds of teams. My school of thought is that allowing each NFL team to maintain four developmental teams, in theory, it would eliminate the fierce competition in the NFL draft while paying players for what would otherwise be their college years. This means the NFL owners would pay more of a flat rate across the board for new players rather than the ludicrous draft pick bonuses we have in practice today. Also, I have always held the Green Bay model of ownership in high regard, and I envision something of a hybrid system, with each host market having at least some percent owned at the city, county, or state/provincial level, and some percentage of ownership available for shareholders, while the bulk percentage is held by private ownership. This would allow host markets at least some control over relocation bids, but also allow at least some validity for the use of public money. As a matter of course, every US state and nearly every Canadian province is granted at least one team. National Football League I have very little in mind for the NFL itself. I would like to rebrand Washington and Kansas City (my girlfriend is Cherokee, so we refrain from the R-word). And while it won't really impact this project, I did opt to make a new map of the NFL. I based the four tiers of my minor league on the east-vs-west system used in the NBA and NHL. Football and baseball are the only major-league sports to use the National-American conference system (that I know of), because both leagues expanded by merging with competing organizations. So more for my own what-if curiosity than anything else, I created this realignment map. Personally, I find the new divisions that resulted rather intriguing, but that's just my own biased opinion. A lot of old rivalries would be upset, but I'm curious how making the NFL divisions more geographically oriented would ultimately impact the league. Alpha Football League The Alpha League consists of the largest markets not served directly by the NFL. The minimum NFL salary is about half a million, but here, the salary would be about a quarter million. This would equate to the NCAA Div-I FBS, with players that have worked their way up from the Beta league. San Diego and St. Louis once again become host to professional football franchises. And I ultimately decided for sake of this project to absorb the CFL into this project. Notably, I granted a franchise to Mexico. The conversion rate for the Mexican peso is not as strong as the rate between American and Canadian dollars, plus American football has limited popularity outside the United States. As a result, I opted to place the sole Mexican franchise where lies the strongest support. Monterrey, it turns out, has the highest affinity for the NFL in Mexico. Beta Football League The Beta League simply follows the above pattern with the largest markets not served in the Alpha League. The minimum salary would be $125K, and would consist of players that have finished their time in the Gamma League. It would equate to the Div-I FCS. The only real note to the Beta League is that it includes Hawaii. I had some concerns on remoteness, but the NCAA finances transportation for game in Hawaii, so assuming all operational costs were covered by the NFL (an entity that made an estimated $14B in 2017), then travel expenses for smaller markets becomes less of a concern. Gamma Football League Minimum salary in the Gamma League drops to $62,500, higher than the national median income, but we're getting down to blue-collar football here. These are the players that have made it a year or two in the Delta League and have made their first jump up the ranks. Delta Football League This is the bottom of the barrel, with media markets down to about three hundred thousand on average, with the smallest market being Casper, Wyoming. I opted to include a team in The Bahamas, as the sport is growing in popularity there and it would increase exposure to American Football in the Caribbean. And Anchorage, while by far the northernmost city in this project, is purportedly not much worse in winter than Seattle, with the surrounding oceans mitigating much of the harsher Alaskan winters. With a minimum salary down to $31,250, this would be the league that recruits players directly out of high school and takes walk-on try-outs. It would be comparable to Div-III, essentially the Single-A Short Season league of professional football. Assuming a player plays one year in each league, they'd earn roughly half a million over four years before signing with the NFL. And at any time, whether for salary cap reasons or recovery from injury, the NFL would have the ability to send players down to the minors. On a final note, I have concepts in mind for about half these markets, so I'm open to suggestions. EDIT: I apologize for the frequent edits since posting. I'd written the entire post in HTML... only to find that the forum displays HTML as naked code, which wasn't my intention. I didn't have access to my computer till this morning and my phone browser was rather temperamental with the post editor. EDIT: Replaced images since I'd stupidly mixed up Chattanooga and Knoxville in my map. EDIT: Changed cities in the Delta League Map.
  20. Artisan219

    Uniform Template

    I posted to the forum for the first time in years and ended up making a new template. This is spliced from three templates - the bulk of it comes from tbdaniels15. That user has not been on the forum for some time, but bucksfan5 had posted a .psd template that still had a valid link. I copied some of my old template (the cleats) from a template posted by andrewharrington, and the gloves and general layout are all my doing. I still need to do some layer tweaking, and I'm thinking of doing setting up some preset stripe layers. So I'm not just quite ready to post the new Photoshop template itself, but I have enough of it set that I figured I'd post this reduced resolution preview to get some C&C before I go ahead and finish up the file. The actual template is 3300 x 2550, or 11" x 8.5" at 300 dpi. I don't usually make templates, but I like having it print-ready, down to the half-inch print-safe border.
  21. HRC4

    Fantasy Football Edits

    I did up some player cards for the best starting lineup in my dynasty league. Rather than spamming you all with the 10 individual cards, here they are all together.
  22. FlyingBuckeye7

    Fast Food Football League

    While browsing through the concepts forum one day, I decided that I wanted to make my own concept. I wanted to do a league of some sort, particularly for football. But I just didn't know what to do. Then it came to me, Fast Food Football League. So without further ado, here it is: The Fast Food Football League, or FFFL, was founded in the spring of 2009 by the CEOs of some major fast food chains to promote their restaurants and to prove which fast food venue was truly the best. The first season was held in the spring of 2010 with only 4 teams. These teams came from the following restaurants: - McDonald's - Taco Bell - Arby's - Chikfila I will be putting together the team logos soon.
  23. frbenzema2014

    Which soccer jerseys do you own?

    Since there seems to be such a thread does not exist, I thought that a topic. Would be very interesting. So ... what soccer jerseys presses do you own? I: Lazio Rome (2004) Inter Milan (fake ^^) (2005 or so) Arsenal (fake) (Henry) (03/04) Tunisia (Dos Santos) (06/07) Cameroon (Foé) (03/04) Olympique Lyon 3rd (Juninho) (06/07) Real Madrid (Robinho) (07/08) Austria Wien (Sweepstakes, Random Football Prize) (05/06 or 04/05) Rapid Wien away (Fabiano) (07/08) Romania (06/07) Spain (06/07) Spain (Torres) (07/09) England away (06/07) Portugal (Ronaldo) (07/09) As Rome (Totti) (07/08) Inter Milan 100 years jubilee jersey (07/08) with the imprint after they became master again in 2008: I Campioni siamo noi - 16 Austria (Vastic) (07/09) Here, I also share a friend's collection! how about it? Anyway, I think they are great!!!
  24. I've been on this forum for a while and I saw that others (hugevolsfan and CJ Zilligen) had shared personal/fictional football leagues with their own designs. I have my own fictional football league that I came up with more than 30 years ago, and I've had it knocking around in my brain and on paper ever since. I always thought I was the only football helmet/logo geek out there -- glad to see I'm not the only one. There's a rather long backstory to my league -- the Continental Football League -- so I'll try to sum it up. I started this concept league in 1983-84 when I was in ninth grade as a mashup of the Canadian Football League, USFL and World Football League, with several teams of my own creation (Hurricanes, Mustangs, Wolfpack, Thunderbirds, etc.) to fill out a 28-team league that roughly paralleled the NFL, but as an East-West league like the NHL or NBA. Since I am not much of an artist and many of the teams in my league exist in the real world in some form, I used helmets from MG's Helmets to display the vision of my league, using Photoshop to make changes. In some cases, I used logos from other artists on here or elsewhere in cyberspace, but I give full credit to the artists' original work -- and I do not profit from any of this, this league is for my own enjoyment. In other cases, I recolored logos to suit the teams I came up with. Full credit goes to hugevolsfan for the Memphis Blues -- that's his idea, although I use a recolored Philadelphia Soul helmet for them. I had gone through several nicknames for Memphis over the years, but I have no idea why I didn't think of the Blues years ago! My original Memphis team was the Wolfpack using North Carolina colors, but they morphed into other teams before I settled on the Blues after seeing hugevolsfan's. As for some of the other helmets, all credit to CJ Zilligen for the current Jacksonville Sharks' and Colorado Grizzlies' logos. They are outstanding works and wanted to plug his artwork. Credit also goes to the creators of the logos for the Miners and Mustangs, also among my favorites. Again, this league is completely for my own enjoyment, but I thought I would share another concept league. The Arizona Inferno are my homage to my favorite logo -- the Atlanta Flames' flaming A. The Carolina Hurricanes actually, for me, dates back to a team I created in 1984 (as the Houston Hurricane originally), but the helmet is MG's Helmets' concept from the NHL team. I had discovered Canadian football in 1982 when NBC showed some games during the NFL strike and ESPN started its coverage of the CFL. I also happened to have an English teacher, Mr. Niles, who was Canadian and let me borrow a couple of books he had about the CFL. My family took a vacation to Ontario in the summer of '83, so I bought a couple more CFL books. I was fascinated with football helmets and logos to begin with, and bored with the same old NFL logos, so I was thrilled to see new teams and colors -- including arrival of the USFL in the spring of '83, and a 10th anniversary story of the WFL in Football Digest magazine showed that late-lamented league's logos (in black and white). So I had the brilliant idea around that time to invent my own league with CFL teams, plus select teams from the USFL and WFL, and a few of my own concept teams. Using a blank helmet template traced from an NFL preview book, I created a league with paper and colored pencils. I originally dubbed it the North American Football League (NAFL), but changed it to the Continental Football League a few years later (I knew there was a minor Continental League in the 1960s, but at the time I knew very little about it). I developed an origin story -- the Canadian league merging with teams from two other smaller pro leagues in the U.S. south and eastern seaboard in the mid to late 1950s to compete with the NFL -- and each team had its own history, as well. I created the league as a hybrid of American and Canadian rules to create the most exciting game possible, in a fictional timeline where the AFL never existed (although some teams did, but as NFL teams) as my league and the NFL competed for expansion cities. Sometimes, in my free time, I traced football photos and recolored them as teams from my league. Over three decades, I tweaked and retrofitted teams to change nicknames and helmet/uniform designs and colors, finding teams that I liked in the Arena Football League, NFL Europe or CFL expansion (Baltimore Stallions) and replacing original teams. Since my league has always paralleled the NFL in format, my CFL expanded to 30 and 32 teams. I also developed past helmets that teams used in previous decades. Two very interesting things with my Continental Football League -- I came up with the Ottawa Renegades and Carolina Hurricanes a decade or two before the actual CFL and NHL teams. When I first drew up my league in 1984, I know CFL purists will hate this, but I never liked two Roughriders/Rough Riders, so I kept Saskatchewan the same and changed Ottawa to the Renegades, using a black, white and red version of the Orlando Renegades USFL helmet (eventually switching to the Ottawa Renegades' CFL helmet when they arrived in 2002). As for the Hurricanes, I love the nickname and wanted a team with that name and the same red/white/black colors -- and since Charlotte, NC, did not have a pro team at the time (1984), that was my natural landing spot (although Houston Hurricanes was a possibility, as well). I originally used the old WFL Portland Storm logo -- recolored in red and black -- until I saw the Carolina Hurricanes' NHL logo. Another is the Montreal Alouettes/Baltimore Stallions history -- in this alternate timeline, Montreal moved to Baltimore in the 1980s instead of going defunct, and the Washington Sentinels (remember "The Replacements"?) moved to Montreal in the '90s. I created or recolored several teams because there were many color combinations I like that were not in the NFL or CFL in the 1980s, but were in the college ranks, so there are several teams that represent some of those great color combinations -- black and teal, dark green and black, maroon and metallic gold, orange and navy, green and blue (think Hartford Whalers), purple and silver, garnet and gold. I have teams that have stayed in the same city, but have undergone multiple nickname changes until I found something that sounded right. I had the Michigan Panthers right up until a few weeks ago -- I was playing musical nicknames among the Wolfpack, Mustangs and Thunder, but I always wanted a team called the Wolfpack, so I retrofitted the Panthers as the Wolfpack after a rebranding, circa 1980. EDIT: I ended up going back to the Michigan Panthers from the start, and having the Wolfpack be the Chicago franchise. NOTE: Attached below are the current (2016-present) lineup of my Continental Football League -- Eastern Football Conference and Western Football Conference. I decided to give new life to the CFL's former East and West division logos -- we can just switch Division to Conference:
  25. CrimsonBull9584

    NCAA football video game

    As many of you already know, I still play NCAA Football 14 and can't wait for another game to come out. Not that it's likely with EA at this point, but a man can dream. That being said, one of the major issues I've always had with the NCAA franchise, is that beyond FBS, they don't really care about FCS and lower. Up until the release on the PS3 and XBOX 360, the game did use to include FCS teams, but dropped them completely when they did move to the new hardware. They eventually made Teambuilder as a was of making up for the lack of FCS teams, but it really didn't. Point is that FCS, D2, D3, NAIA, and whoever else didn't get any love and representation in the games. Hypothetically speaking, should EA or another developer come out with a NCAA football video game, would it be feasible for them to include FCS, etc all teams in the game? See what I'm thinking is that with the current generation hardware and beyond (PS5?) it should be possible to create the 600+ college football teams for play in the game. Wether this is on the disk or DLC, I think I can and should be done. I'm curious what everyone else things, particularly those of you who know more about video gaming that I do. Is it indeed possible to do it and if so, would you want it? I think a game where you can play as any college team with properly recreated uniforms, stadiums and such would be great. But does anyone else find value in playing as a D3 school in a video game?