The Nati MacDaddy Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 Just curious as to anyones thoughts on the "S" overlapping the "C". My initial thought is that it makes the letter "C" harder to read. I can move it if need be. I'll keep plugging away at this until I get it right. http://boards.sportslogos.net/settings/signature/# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nati MacDaddy Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 Thanks for the great advice. The Cincinati Swarm logo and wordmark are improving. It is cool to see the evoltuion of my idea. It has evolved into the following: http://boards.sportslogos.net/settings/signature/# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUcelticsWON95 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Is the "S" supposed to be honey or the flight path of a swarm of bees that's gathered at the bottom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigshampagne Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 this just isnt working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Don't use the logo in the woodmark... That's the big problem now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nati MacDaddy Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 The "letter S" is the fligt of the Bumble Bees, pardon the pun. There is no honey. Do you think Blending the flight path in a subtle approach would help? tThe flight paths could also be blurred. Just a thought. I thought it was coming together. Apparently not. When it sets on the yellow helmet it looks better. What else can I do to get it to work? I will do whatever it takes. I'm gonna get this right. http://boards.sportslogos.net/settings/signature/# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Get rid of the bumble bees... Just use the "C" as the helmet logo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRicSlick Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 The Bears, and Packers don't use the primary in the wordmark, and they're letters. So what i'm trying to say is don't force the primary into the wordmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUcelticsWON95 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 The Bears, and Packers don't use the primary in the wordmark, and they're letters. So what i'm trying to say is don't force the primary into the wordmark.I agree. I say just do a normal wordmark, and create a cleaner primary. I see what you're doing, but it's too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWonka Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Yea I'll echo what people are saying. When I said to look at the Hornets wordmark I really wanted you to see just a normal font being used. It wasn't some out of the box crazy style it was just a sharp modern font with a slight edit to the end letters. The biggest step forward you can make is eliminating the 'swarm' flight pattern and choosing a regular modern font for the wordmark and then tweaking the placement of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nati MacDaddy Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 I did a google image search on swarm logo and drew some inspiration from a few ideas that I liked. This is the latest redesign of the wordmark. I am learning a great deal from each of your responses and I hope I am getting better. http://boards.sportslogos.net/settings/signature/# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derschwigg Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Ok, here's the problem I have with the new look: you're trying for too much. The hexagon C is a great secondary icon on its own. I get what you're trying to do with the swarm, but right now, it looks more like a murky stream going down a set of falls. The icon, as it is here, doesn't read as a CS. My advice is: keep what you have, but put it aside. I feel like you're getting stuck in a rut of ideas. Turn the page and try something different. If you're really strapped for ideas, I'd use a few bees (3-5, I'd say) and give them some detail/solid styling. You can get the "swarm" point across with a little placement help. Grouping a set of together would pull off the swarm aspect. My Portfolio | My Store | My Self Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nati MacDaddy Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 Thanks derschwigg for your advice. I have been known to be a bit strong willed or maybe just passionate about my work. It does keep me stuck in a rut and stifles the creativity. I guess its hard to let go of the things that you are passionate about. I will follow your advice and step away from the hexagonal letter "C" as part of the wordmark. I think you get my point about a swarm being more than a single bee/hornet/wasp. I will keep looking at other types of designs for flying insects and see if I can come up with something original. I am hung up on the graphic depiction of the "C and the S" but if it is not reading as "C and S" as you, and others have said then I need to try a different approach. I have to keep telling myself that change is not a bad thing. I do like some of the change that I have seen the wordmark go through and have another idea that I will submit soon. Thanks for your attention to my work. I know you and many others are pulling for me to do a great job. Your patience and attention to detail are appreciated. I'm still having a blast just learning how to become a graphic designer. I don't give up easily. So keep following this thread and hopefully I will get it right eventually. TY Bunches. http://boards.sportslogos.net/settings/signature/# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derschwigg Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I think you've got the right attitude about receiving criticism - you're not taking it personally.This idea you have isn't bad, it's just not coming across very well. I've found that, when that happens, it's good to explore other options. Sometimes you wind up melding a handful of ideas into a fantastic concept! My Portfolio | My Store | My Self Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nati MacDaddy Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 Here is my latest attempt to follow the advice of others who have replied to this thread. I was working on this while listening to one of my favorite songs by Bob Seger, "Turn the Page" I tried to create a new font with just a hint of the hexagon shape for part of the word mark and used air brush for the second part. I hope this is becoming easier to read. http://boards.sportslogos.net/settings/signature/# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 It's getting better, but it NEEDS to be cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nati MacDaddy Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 Here is a cleaner version of the wordmark and helmet logo. The Bee graphic is not my work but just something I found on a google image search. The only thing I changed was the color. I hope that I am getting closer to the high quality work that I have seen on many of the concept threads. I could use some coaching on how to clean up images to make them sharper other than the tool that I use on Adobe photoshop7 called sharpen. http://boards.sportslogos.net/settings/signature/# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ren69 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 First of all, Welcome. Your logo is progressing but at the moment it's still more t-shirt design than logo. You need to eliminate the blur, bevel, airbrush effects all together. IMO those are the main things that are keeping your design from moving forward right now. I like the BEE, make that your primary logo & add a clean wordmark to it! Focus your attention on 1 bee + wordmark & do away with all the other unnecessary elements. Reference a lot of logos to give yourself a better understanding of sports logos in general. That's a bit of my 2 cents, will be standing by to see how this comes along, good luck! https://www.behance.net/Ren1969 https://twitter.com/Ren1969_Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nati MacDaddy Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 Thanks for the welcome and your 2 cents worth ren69. I will hopefully get my idea for the swarm logo and wordmark to a higher level with your, and other followers of this thread, input. I am still stuck in the rut of wanting a blurred letter "S" it is hard for me to let go of this idea because I really like it and I guess I am trying to will it to work. Any thoughts on how to make the letter "S" keep the look of a swarm and also keep it crispness would be appreciated. I will try the Primary logo without the bevel and resubmit it to get your feedback. I am enjoying this process of getting ideas out and hearing from veterans like yourself on ways of improving the design. It has come a long way and probably will go much further but in the end it will be worth it. I am very new to this and have many other ideas for you to critique so keep being open and honest with me. I can take it because it is not something that I take personally.. http://boards.sportslogos.net/settings/signature/# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkatron101 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 The swarm idea is going to be too complicated to pull off. Personally if I were doing this, I would scrap that idea. Any "group" formation is going to be muddy looking, or overly complicated. I think the same message can be conveyed by limiting it to three simple, but defined shapes.For example: You could have a singular forward facing bee that is the focal point of the logo. Flanking that bee on the left and right could be smaller bees in silhouette. The honeycomb shape could be the container that makes them a cohesive "swarm."Then have the wordmark underneath. Also. ditch that soft beveling. It is a quick way to make your work look dated and amateurish. Simplify your idea. Keep it basic until you have really nailed the look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.