MLB Changes 2015

[PhlyBoy]

While it's great for nostalgia reasons, the brown Padres are so ugly its ridiculous. Cool? Totally, because of the the retro 70's factor, but for current use full time? No way. When I think San Diego, what is supposed to be one of the most beautiful cities in the world (never been there but I hear. Something about a whales vagina), I do not think of Brown. Honestly, I believe that incorporating powder blue, navy, and either gold or yellow would be amazing.

[Beeperino]

I'd rather not have Brandiose in the MLB, thank you very much.

They did the Reds. While the Reds aren't the best team in Major League Baseball, they certainly aren't the worst.

Other than downplaying the black, I'm trying to think of anything from this current set that isn't a downgrade from their previous look.

Even the relatively generic block letters and numbers were better for a team with their historical pretensions than the overly-fussy custom font they're saddled with now.

I do hope you do not mean to say the Reds are "pretentious" (with a negative connotation), but rather are acknowledging their long history as a franchise and even older connection to the city.

While I initially liked the Reds font when it debuted in '07 (or technically, Reds Fest in '06), I've soured on it over the years. Part of the reason is the white outline (traditional) WITH the black dropshadow. It makes it way to busy, especially on the road jerseys.

I do not mind the black in and of itself as a trim color. For instances, the Reds used black as a trim color in the '60s (see below). My issue is the cartoonish stuff - black-billed road hats and dropshadow. If they would even use black as just a subtle outline (like navy on the Cardinals home whites), it would be a vast improvement.

[Gothamite]

Indeed, it would.

I didn't say "pretentious", which would indeed have a negative connotation. I said "historical pretensions", in its main meaning (although I just noticed that my auto-correct misspelt the word).

pretension1

Syllabification: pre·ten·sion

Pronunciation: /prəˈten(t)SH(ə)n /

NOUN

1 (pretension to) A claim or the assertion of a claim to something:

their pretensions to culture

we cannot tolerate pretension to infallibility

1.1 (often pretensions) An aspiration or claim to a certain status or quality:

another aging rocker with literary pretensions

No inherent value judgment. Just a neutral statement of fact. The Reds have a claim to the oldest extant baseball club, and they ought to dress like it. Not like a 1990s single-A franchise just relocated from North Haverbrook.

[FiddySicks]

If the Royals win the WS, maybe they'll do the gold outline thing on their uniforms for the first game like some other teams have done. The gold would look really good, and IMO should be investigated as a permanent addition.

I was just saying that. It's be a nice change from the Dodgers and it would look great.

Just ditch the powder blue. It's totally unnecessary.

[Gothamite]

I'd hate that, only because I've been saying for years that the Brewers should take the royal from their throwbacks and metallic gold from their current set. It's a gorgeous color combination, so much more vibrant than the boring navy.

[sportstar1212]

If the Royals win the WS, maybe they'll do the gold outline thing on their uniforms for the first game like some other teams have done. The gold would look really good, and IMO should be investigated as a permanent addition.

I was just saying that. It's be a nice change from the Dodgers and it would look great.

Just ditch the powder blue. It's totally unnecessary.

That has me wondering what the Giants would do for their specialty jersey if they win. They've already used the primary script in gold in 2011, as well as the SF on the chest from the road alts in gold in 2013. Would they just recycle the 2011 one?

[FiddySicks]

I'd say Goants cursive script on an orange jersey. Same hat that's been worn the previous two times. It sounds gaudy, and it totally is, but it'd be glorious.

Too early for all that talk, though. Strike what I said above.

[Jungle Jim]

I'd rather not have Brandiose in the MLB, thank you very much.

They did the Reds. While the Reds aren't the best team in Major League Baseball, they certainly aren't the worst.

Other than downplaying the black, I'm trying to think of anything from this current set that isn't a downgrade from their previous look.

Even the relatively generic block letters and numbers were better for a team with their historical pretensions than the overly-fussy custom font they're saddled with now.

They got their sleeves back, for one. I never want to see a vest on a baseball diamond again.

[dahatman]

Did Tampa Bay wear the navy fauxbacks again this season? I know they wore the powder blue fauxbacks but I can't recall if they wore the navy ones again.

Yes, they did in June.

[TheOldRoman]

While it's great for nostalgia reasons, the brown Padres are so ugly its ridiculous. Cool? Totally, because of the the retro 70's factor, but for current use full time? No way. When I think San Diego, what is supposed to be one of the most beautiful cities in the world (never been there but I hear. Something about a whales vagina), I do not think of Brown. Honestly, I believe that incorporating powder blue, navy, and either gold or yellow would be amazing.

Brown is plenty attractive in the right color scheme. For instance, go into any home décor store, and you'll likely see a lot of brown. Brown works with tans, greens, yellows, blues, etc. But what the hell is so beautiful about navy? It's definitely more "blah" compared to brown. We're so used to seeing navy in certain places that we hardly notice it, where as brown would be unique and stand out more, potentially making it more garish . But as for more attractive? That's just an opinion. Brown could be made into a clown uniform, like the Padres did in the '80s, but it could also be made into a classy uniform. And navy could be made into a clown suit. If you want an instance of an awful navy-powder-yellow set, look at the mess that is the Memphis Grizzlies.

As for the whole light blue-navy-yellow thing, the Chargers did that in a half-assed effort to placate fans wanting throwbacks, and their uniforms suck now (the lone exception being the light blues, and the presence of navy greatly detracts from those). It's probably not a good idea to ape the unpopular color scheme of an in-town team when you yourself have been around nearly 50 years. Also, without knowing Padres fans, I can't imagine they as a whole would be too receptive of yet another color scheme which still isn't the one they actually want back.

[Jungle Jim]

While it's great for nostalgia reasons, the brown Padres are so ugly its ridiculous. Cool? Totally, because of the the retro 70's factor, but for current use full time? No way. When I think San Diego, what is supposed to be one of the most beautiful cities in the world (never been there but I hear. Something about a whales vagina), I do not think of Brown. Honestly, I believe that incorporating powder blue, navy, and either gold or yellow would be amazing.

The Padres had a very classy (and yes, beautiful) brown uniform before they went crazy in the 70s...

[PhlyBoy]

While it's great for nostalgia reasons, the brown Padres are so ugly its ridiculous. Cool? Totally, because of the the retro 70's factor, but for current use full time? No way. When I think San Diego, what is supposed to be one of the most beautiful cities in the world (never been there but I hear. Something about a whales vagina), I do not think of Brown. Honestly, I believe that incorporating powder blue, navy, and either gold or yellow would be amazing.

The Padres had a very classy (and yes, beautiful) brown uniform before they went crazy in the 70s...

That uniform isn't the end of the world. I was thinking of those taco bell looking once from the 70s and 80s, so I see your point, but still, when I hear San diego, I don't think of Brown/yellow. for Wyoming? Perfect. San Diego, light blue to me

[bosrs1]

What about the Padres? Wasn't ownership considering making changes for the 2015 season or was that 2 or 3 ownership groups ago? They are in need of a complete overhaul.

No changes for 2015. They're supposedly looking at different options for 2016 including investigating brown but nothing definitive yet. They're still not convinced the majority of the fan base actually wants brown back.

Frankly while I'm not a fan of the brown at all, even I don't see why they don't split the difference in this era of alternate uniforms. Bust out a new or retro brown uniform as an alternate to placate the vocal brown fans (hopefully without the godawful late 70's and early 80's taco bell cap), revamp the blues to have a little more style to them for the primaries (something like the 1998's would be great), and keep the very popular camo for Sunday. It would be a good line up that would give everyone something to like.

Or they could just wear brown full time and look their best (or at least like their own separate team)

Sorry but the history of the brown uniforms has only proven that they've yet to find a way to do it tastefully. I'd rather they look bland than like crap. And while the '69's weren't terrible, that's not what the vocal brown minority points to when they talk brown. They always seem to reference the godawful '84's with their taco bell cap with orange highlights. About the only thing worse were the early 70's all yellow uniforms.

I mean I'm sure brown can be done well, but it's definitely an easier color scheme to screw up as history has proven. And the team still insists that the brown lovers, while vocal, represent a minority of the Padres fans who seem quite happy with the blue these last 25 years. And the blue '98 style apparently does remain quite popular too.

[TheOldRoman]

What about the Padres? Wasn't ownership considering making changes for the 2015 season or was that 2 or 3 ownership groups ago? They are in need of a complete overhaul.

No changes for 2015. They're supposedly looking at different options for 2016 including investigating brown but nothing definitive yet. They're still not convinced the majority of the fan base actually wants brown back.

Frankly while I'm not a fan of the brown at all, even I don't see why they don't split the difference in this era of alternate uniforms. Bust out a new or retro brown uniform as an alternate to placate the vocal brown fans (hopefully without the godawful late 70's and early 80's taco bell cap), revamp the blues to have a little more style to them for the primaries (something like the 1998's would be great), and keep the very popular camo for Sunday. It would be a good line up that would give everyone something to like.

Or they could just wear brown full time and look their best (or at least like their own separate team)

Sorry but the history of the brown uniforms has only proven that they've yet to find a way to do it tastefully. I'd rather they look bland than like crap.

Often times, the bland circle of the Venn diagram overlaps the crap circle. That's where the Padres are now, seeing as their road look aped the Yankees' roads, and their home set features an accent color which doesn't appear anywhere on the roads. When your jerseys are stripped down, devoid of color and simplistic, without having historical precedent or significance for such, they are sucky-bland. And the Padres sets before they started wearing yellow jerseys and pants were absolutely tasteful. The inaugural set that everyone keeps posting was great.

[Gothamite]

And while the '69's weren't terrible, that's not what the vocal brown minority points to when they talk brown. They always seem to reference the godawful '84's with their taco bell cap with orange highlights.

Some of us do.

[bosrs1]

And while the '69's weren't terrible, that's not what the vocal brown minority points to when they talk brown. They always seem to reference the godawful '84's with their taco bell cap with orange highlights.

Some of us do.

When I say that I'm talking about the vocal brown minorty who are Padres fans. Folks here are of course entitled to their opinions, but when you don't have to wear it regularly or see it regularly it's not really the same.

That said, as I said above, the '69's aren't terrible. They just weren't all that great either lacking much of any style. They were a very generic uniform simply colored yellow and brown. I'd much rather see the Pads go with a stylish blue like they had 15 years ago which would apparently placate the majority, while also having a brown alt for the minority rather than go through yet another major color change back to what may not be that popular of a color scheme with the brown/yellow or brown/orange (yet another issue with brown, which color pairing is what people would even want when they say brown?) Nevermind the issues going to brown would present to a team who purposely matched their stadium to their then team color scheme (which was and remains a classy aspect of the franchise).

[TheOldRoman]

And while the '69's weren't terrible, that's not what the vocal brown minority points to when they talk brown. They always seem to reference the godawful '84's with their taco bell cap with orange highlights.

Some of us do.

When I say that I'm talking about the vocal brown minorty who are Padres fans. Folks here are of course entitled to their opinions, but when you don't have to wear it regularly or see it regularly it's not really the same.

I think there's plenty of reasons for Padres fans to wear stuff from the '80s. First, the Padres were actually good then, winning the franchise's first pennant (lol cubs). Also, just like White Sox fans in my age group, there's a nostalgic tie to that '80s set because the team was not only good, but it's what we grew up watching. Also, part of widespread throwback popularity is garishness. That's why lots of fans of other teams bought Sox, Astros and Padres throwbacks over the last fifteen years - because the sets were uniquely ugly. Well, since that is largely what gets produced in throwback form, that's most of what Padres fans would have to choose from if they wanted to wear brown Padres gear.

That being said, if the Padres were to go back to a classy brown and yellow set, I don't think there would be anybody yelling "You need to add orange and bring back contrasting front panels!"

[Phils Phan]

Yeah screw brown, let's just have the Padres look like every other team! Even if brown wad gaudy (which it isn't), MLB needs some originality in color for the love of all that's good and holy.

[bosrs1]

Yeah screw brown, let's just have the Padres look like every other team! Even if brown wad gaudy (which it isn't), MLB needs some originality in color for the love of all that's good and holy.

Why? There was a time every team was white and grey with very little variety in the supplimentary colors (and very little use of them). And this is in a sport that's largely been traditional over most of its history with the most iconic uniform sets largely still adhering to that.

That said brown may be associated in some folks of a certain age's minds with the Padres but fact is they've worn blue through more of their history now than brown and gold. They're as much a blue team as they are a brown team. And that's only if you count the MLB years. If you go back to their origins in 1936 they've not only worn blue (through an even longer stretch of their overall history) but also various times black and then red have also been their primary colors. Brown was only one of many primary colors they've worn in their history. And the presentations of it were not their best uniforms, PCL or MLB.

[daveindc]

What do you guys think of a blue, brown, and tan combo?