sportstar1212 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Is there some kind of "conventional" positional number system in hockey that I don't know about? Mind you I ain't the most knowledgeable about the sport but I keep seeing things said about this so now I'm curious.Anyway, even I thought this was strange for some reason:Even as a young'n I knew something wasn't quite right about a netminder wearing 60.And actually...what is it about numbers in the 60s, anyway? Outside of football linemen they always seem a bit...strange. Particularly 61--a number I don't even see many linemen wear. I think Livan Hernandez and Rick Ankiel (?) are the only two I can remember who prominently wore that number.(Of course, Mario Lemieux and Jaromir Jagr are very prominent 60-somethings...)Traditionally, goalies either wear 1 or something in the 30 range, defencemen single-digit numbers, and forwards 7 and up, but lower than 30. Nowadays, any number is fair game and you'll often see several players wearing high numbers, a trend started by guys like Gretzky, Lemieux, Jagr, etc. I guess it's because you stand out more wearing a unique number.Myself, I wore 17 for the longest time in hockey, but I got 53 in summer hockey a few years back and I ended up deciding to make it my permanent number. My reasoning was that mentioned above; I thought it was unique and I'd stand out more. Also, if you look at some of the league's biggest stars, you'll see a lot of them in higher numbers, eg. Crosby (87), Stamkos & Seguin (91), Malkin (71), Karlsson (65), Kessel (81), Oshie (74), Skinner (53) and the list goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tBBP Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I personally admire the creativity but can see why people disliked it.These have long been a guilty pleasure of mine...these things encapsulate just about everything one needs to know about the '90s era of sports design.This also gives me the chance to bring up another relic from the 90s, only because of something I noticed a while back...Look closely...If you can straighten out the waviness in your mind, you'll notice these two teams pretty much used the same font...the only two instances I can remember of this particular [style of] font being used in pro sports. Speaking of the Motre Bames...as much as I loved that particular uniform set (much more post-'96), the "4" from that set was just inexcusable... *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayMac Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 The fish sticks unis are awesome in a 90s vacuum. If the design were not used by a team with some rich history, I feel that it would been well received at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcreteCharlie Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Is there some kind of "conventional" positional number system in hockey that I don't know about? Mind you I ain't the most knowledgeable about the sport but I keep seeing things said about this so now I'm curious.Anyway, even I thought this was strange for some reason:Even as a young'n I knew something wasn't quite right about a netminder wearing 60.And actually...what is it about numbers in the 60s, anyway? Outside of football linemen they always seem a bit...strange. Particularly 61--a number I don't even see many linemen wear. I think Livan Hernandez and Rick Ankiel (?) are the only two I can remember who prominently wore that number.(Of course, Mario Lemieux and Jaromir Jagr are very prominent 60-somethings...)Traditionally, goalies either wear 1 or something in the 30 range, defencemen single-digit numbers, and forwards 7 and up, but lower than 30. Nowadays, any number is fair game and you'll often see several players wearing high numbers, a trend started by guys like Gretzky, Lemieux, Jagr, etc. I guess it's because you stand out more wearing a unique number.Myself, I wore 17 for the longest time in hockey, but I got 53 in summer hockey a few years back and I ended up deciding to make it my permanent number. My reasoning was that mentioned above; I thought it was unique and I'd stand out more. Also, if you look at some of the league's biggest stars, you'll see a lot of them in higher numbers, eg. Crosby (87), Stamkos & Seguin (91), Malkin (71), Karlsson (65), Kessel (81), Oshie (74), Skinner (53) and the list goes on.I think Ken Hodge was the first to go past 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I was a goalie and I wore 79 when I played. I'd still wear it today if I was still playing. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorinK92 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 In hockey, any goalie who wears a number that isn't 1 or 30-35Today, it's mainly 29-34, but no 32, and 39-41 that seems normal to me. #1 is really fading out for some reason (only 5 starters wear it this season, up from just 4 last season) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgo Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Traditionally, goalies either wear 1 or something in the 30 range, defencemen single-digit numbers, and forwards 7 and up, but lower than 30. Nowadays, any number is fair game and you'll often see several players wearing high numbers, a trend started by guys like Gretzky, Lemieux, Jagr, etc. I guess it's because you stand out more wearing a unique number.Myself, I wore 17 for the longest time in hockey, but I got 53 in summer hockey a few years back and I ended up deciding to make it my permanent number. My reasoning was that mentioned above; I thought it was unique and I'd stand out more. Also, if you look at some of the league's biggest stars, you'll see a lot of them in higher numbers, eg. Crosby (87), Stamkos & Seguin (91), Malkin (71), Karlsson (65), Kessel (81), Oshie (74), Skinner (53) and the list goes on.You forgot future HOFer David Clarkson.I personally admire the creativity but can see why people disliked it.These have long been a guilty pleasure of mine...these things encapsulate just about everything one needs to know about the '90s era of sports design.This also gives me the chance to bring up another relic from the 90s, only because of something I noticed a while back...Look closely...If you can straighten out the waviness in your mind, you'll notice these two teams pretty much used the same font...the only two instances I can remember of this particular [style of] font being used in pro sports. Speaking of the Motre Bames...as much as I loved that particular uniform set (much more post-'96), the "4" from that set was just inexcusable...I'm not sure if I'm mistaken but the old blue Wizards jersey number fonts resemble the old Thrashers number font. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinMINTwins Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 One of the little quirks I like about hockey is that skaters can wear basically any number and not look weird. You don't really get that in any of the other sports. Especially not soccer; even MLS, where there are instances like Clint Dempsey (2, seemingly usually reserved for a right back) or Bradley Wright-Phillips (99, usually reserved for the guy who gets a personalized shirt), it's pretty much a situation where if you start at a certain position, you have to wear one of three numbers.On a related note, James Wilson freaks me out. - Minnesota Twins - Minnesota Golden Gophers - Dallas Stars - Dallas Mavericks - Norwich City FC - - Texas Tech Red Raiders - FC Dallas - Minnesota Vikings - Borussia Dortmund - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGM13 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 For goalie numbers, I'd say 1,20, 29-35, 37, 38-41 and maybe a few odd ones like 72 and 80 are acceptable. GO OILERS-GO BLUE JAYS-GO ESKIMOS-GO COLTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Is there some kind of "conventional" positional number system in hockey that I don't know about? Mind you I ain't the most knowledgeable about the sport but I keep seeing things said about this so now I'm curious. 1 is traditionally for goaltenders only. 30 through 39 are also used for goaltenders but can be used for forwards. Defensemen traditionally wear 2 through 9 but also numbers in the 20s and sometimes 30s but rarely 10s. Forwards wear whatever they want. No one wears 0 because it BSODs the NHL's statistical database. This is all customary; there are no rules about eligiblity, nor refs having to hand-signal players' numbers like college hoops. Heralded draft picks tend to wear their birth numbers or numbers close to them: Crsoby 87, Kane 88, but Stamkos and Tavares are both 1990s who wear 91. Connor McDavid is expected to wear 97 and kill me I'm old. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatic Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 In hockey, any goalie who wears a number that isn't 1 or 30-35Not even 39? Worn by one of the greatest goalies ever?For me, goalie numbers are 00,1, 20, 30-40. 20 is because of Mike Vernon; I think that number would look very weird on any skater for some reason. And the great Freddie Brathwaite wore 40, so you have to include that! Actually, I think there's something about the "tens" numbers that make me like them for goalies, but 10 is too skinny for a goalie, and anything 50 or above looks weird no matter what.39 isn't bad, its still in the 30s, but it does look a little weird to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 The Steelers' italicized number looks especially bad in 7.FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygers09 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Single-zero looks rather weird. Double-zero is OK, though.Hey, #0 and #00 are my favorite numbers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygers09 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Traditionally, goalies either wear 1 or something in the 30 range, defencemen single-digit numbers, and forwards 7 and up, but lower than 30. Nowadays, any number is fair game and you'll often see several players wearing high numbers, a trend started by guys like Gretzky, Lemieux, Jagr, etc. I guess it's because you stand out more wearing a unique number.Myself, I wore 17 for the longest time in hockey, but I got 53 in summer hockey a few years back and I ended up deciding to make it my permanent number. My reasoning was that mentioned above; I thought it was unique and I'd stand out more. Also, if you look at some of the league's biggest stars, you'll see a lot of them in higher numbers, eg. Crosby (87), Stamkos & Seguin (91), Malkin (71), Karlsson (65), Kessel (81), Oshie (74), Skinner (53) and the list goes on.You forgot future HOFer David Clarkson.I personally admire the creativity but can see why people disliked it.These have long been a guilty pleasure of mine...these things encapsulate just about everything one needs to know about the '90s era of sports design.This also gives me the chance to bring up another relic from the 90s, only because of something I noticed a while back...Look closely...If you can straighten out the waviness in your mind, you'll notice these two teams pretty much used the same font...the only two instances I can remember of this particular [style of] font being used in pro sports. Speaking of the Motre Bames...as much as I loved that particular uniform set (much more post-'96), the "4" from that set was just inexcusable...I'm not sure if I'm mistaken but the old blue Wizards jersey number fonts resemble the old Thrashers number font.Although the Islanders "fisherman" jersey made The Hockey News Top Ten bad jerseys of all time, and was a total disaster along both Islander fans and throughout the league as well. I really liked the wave design on the jersey themselves. But the player and number fonts really got to me, they could have just reduce the size of them, made look like any other jersey and it would've been fine IMHO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBubba Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 One of the little quirks I like about hockey is that skaters can wear basically any number and not look weird. You don't really get that in any of the other sports. Especially not soccer; even MLS, where there are instances like Clint Dempsey (2, seemingly usually reserved for a right back) or Bradley Wright-Phillips (99, usually reserved for the guy who gets a personalized shirt), it's pretty much a situation where if you start at a certain position, you have to wear one of three numbers.Nonsense. The NHL is filled with players wearing cringe-worthy numbers. Anything above 50 is a "no" in my books, without exception. The worst part is that a large chunk of the league's stars are skating around wearing goofy looking digits, which will likely inspire a whole new generation of young players to prance around in 71s and 83s. Nobody cares about your humungous-big signature. PotD: 29/1/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygers09 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Yes but you also have to remember that more and more lower numbers 1-50 are being retired, so the chances of using those numbers are reduced...Plus there are league restrictions as to what numbers can be used:NHL : #0 and #00 can not be used because the computers wont recognize the number when statisticians input data. MLB : #42 is retired by the League for the remembrance of the great Jackie Robinson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonFromMiami Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 "prance around" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgo Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 One of the little quirks I like about hockey is that skaters can wear basically any number and not look weird. You don't really get that in any of the other sports. Especially not soccer; even MLS, where there are instances like Clint Dempsey (2, seemingly usually reserved for a right back) or Bradley Wright-Phillips (99, usually reserved for the guy who gets a personalized shirt), it's pretty much a situation where if you start at a certain position, you have to wear one of three numbers.Nonsense. The NHL is filled with players wearing cringe-worthy numbers. Anything above 50 is a "no" in my books, without exception. The worst part is that a large chunk of the league's stars are skating around wearing goofy looking digits, which will likely inspire a whole new generation of young players to prance around in 71s and 83s.Watching the Habs must give you a headache also. At least there doesn't seem to be any more number retirements in the future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 One of the little quirks I like about hockey is that skaters can wear basically any number and not look weird. You don't really get that in any of the other sports. Especially not soccer; even MLS, where there are instances like Clint Dempsey (2, seemingly usually reserved for a right back) or Bradley Wright-Phillips (99, usually reserved for the guy who gets a personalized shirt), it's pretty much a situation where if you start at a certain position, you have to wear one of three numbers.Nonsense. The NHL is filled with players wearing cringe-worthy numbers. Anything above 50 is a "no" in my books, without exception. The worst part is that a large chunk of the league's stars are skating around wearing goofy looking digits, which will likely inspire a whole new generation of young players to prance around in 71s and 83s.I think most anything goes. There's rarely a number that makes me do a double take. I have some random numbers that I think would look weird (59 for some reason bugs me), but you can really get away with anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poser Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 For the Sharks its anyone in the 40-60's as the Sharks do no typically allow high numbers and players must "earn" a lower number but sometimes they will stick with the higher number. But at the same time they hand out numbers in the 80's to younger players and it makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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