Brian in Boston Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 8 hours ago, Gothamite said: Kroenke has shown the way - pay for your own damn stadiums. Bob Kraft opted to "pay for [his] own damn stadium" about 16 years before Stan Kroenke did. Bob Kraft footed-the-bill for the price of purchasing the land on which Gillette Stadium was built, as well as the cost of the facility's construction. Further, while the Commonwealth of Massachusetts paid for some up-front infrastructure improvements surrounding the Gillette Stadium site, Kraft agreed to reimburse the state for said improvements. He's been doing so via annual payments since Gillette Stadium opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 That's great. He deserves credit as well. Unfortunately that didn't set a trend among cities, hopefully the Rams' plan will. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, Gothamite said: That's great. He deserves credit as well. Unfortunately that didn't set a trend among cities, hopefully the Rams' plan will. See Joe Robbie from nearly 30 years ago. Municipalities still are willing to get bent. http://www.nytimes.com/1987/08/16/sports/joe-robbie-s-success-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Yep. But we can hope. In Vegas's case, MGM Grand still has something to say about directing tourist taxes away from advertising and into Adelson's scummy fingers. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 16 minutes ago, Gothamite said: Unfortunately that didn't set a trend among cities, hopefully the Rams' plan will. Stan Kroenke's plan in Inglewood is about as likely to "set a trend among cities" when it comes to the financing of sports facility construction as the plans of Joe Robbie and Bob Kraft did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Gothamite said: Yep. But we can hope. In Vegas's case, MGM Grand still has something to say about directing tourist taxes away from advertising and into Adelson's scummy fingers. The legislative representatives north of Las Vegas/Clark County have a lot to do with it all as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 True enough, but we've seen plenty of municipalities willing to sell out their citizens. I have more faith that his business rivals can and will do something. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 46 minutes ago, Gothamite said: True enough, but we've seen plenty of municipalities willing to sell out their citizens. I have more faith that his business rivals can and will do something. The last three legislative sessions had a Majestic proposal for a stadium/mixed-use property too. None left a state House committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Thanks - from what I've read in this thread, state money looks very unlikely. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 14 minutes ago, Gothamite said: Thanks - from what I've read in this thread, state money looks very unlikely. I just know that Majestic has tried to use UNLV for three legislative sessions for this same d@mn project. It has gone from a major mixed-use project to just a stadium and campus housing to now nothing to do with the struggling university. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Southwest Airlines officially opposes the site on Tropicana (behind MGM Grand). And the other locations still have their issues as the deadline to report to the governor approaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben in LA Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 On June 25, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Gothamite said: True enough, but we've seen plenty of municipalities willing to sell out their citizens. I have more faith that his business rivals can and will do something. St. Louis sure was willing to. Tax the taxpayers more money to build a NEW stadium before the old one was even paid off. Great idea...which some maroons were willing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Nevada governor extends his tourism committee's deadline by two months. http://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2016/jul/13/committee-given-more-time-to-work-out-stadium-deta/?_ga=1.147137457.742970776.1468455721 From the article: Quote Gov. Brian Sandoval today gave an 11-member tourism panel two more months to vet plans for a 65,000-seat stadium that may attract the Oakland Raiders to Las Vegas. Sandoval signed an executive order that extends the deadline of the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee until Sept. 30. The committee was supposed to finalize its recommendations by the end of this month, but Chairman Steve Hill said this week he would request more time to continue working through the stadium project. In his order today, Sandoval made two major amendments to his original order that created the infrastructure committee last July. The first amendment extends the committee’s existence and deadline; the second states that the committee can recommend “funding from appropriate sources” to address law enforcement and policing needs for Southern Nevada tourists and residents. While the proposed stadium and plans to renovate and expand the Las Vegas Convention Center have taken up much of the committee’s attention, the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department also became an issue. Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo has told the committee he needs additional funding, but it was previously unclear whether the committee had the authority to make a recommendation on that issue. Enabling legislation that would have allowed for more funding of law enforcement expired on July 1, according to Sandoval's order. As for the Convention Center aspect, the committee unanimously approved that recommendation on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 So do we think approving the Convention Center impacts the stadium bill at all? The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Gothamite said: So do we think approving the Convention Center impacts the stadium bill at all? Probably not, but if the governor is extending the committee session for 60 days, they really want to try to find both the votes and the $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I'm shocked they don't try to do what the Chargers are doing and propose a combination convention center/stadium. Other than ego stroking amongst casino magnates it'd be a win-win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 42 minutes ago, LMU said: I'm shocked they don't try to do what the Chargers are doing and propose a combination convention center/stadium. Other than ego stroking amongst casino magnates it'd be a win-win. Using the Riviera property would have been close to that. On the Oakland side, Ronnie Lott and Fannie Mae CEO/Atlanta developer Egbert Perry spoke to both the city of Oakland and Alameda County concerning the coliseum site for a new Raiders stadium. http://www.mercurynews.com/athletics/ci_30128997/ronnie-lotts-investment-group-wants-coliseum-site-new Yea, we were still making Egberts in the late 60's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYUNDERDOGS Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 On February 1, 2011 at 5:33 PM, slapshot said: We. Are. Farmers. Dum da dum dum dum dum dumb Hey hands off the jingles Drive for five..... Shots to my head With the Seats burning at Citi ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 The Review-Journal is reporting that the city will propose building on the current site of the baseball park: Quote City of Las Vegas to pitch Cashman Center as ideal stadium site By RICHARD N. VELOTTA LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL Expect the city of Las Vegas to employ a full-court press as early as Thursday to convince the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee that Cashman Center — the downtown complex that is the current home of the Las Vegas 51s minor-league baseball team — is the best place for a 65,000-seat domed football stadium. The 11-member committee meets at UNLV’s Stan Fulton Building at 8 a.m. Thursday. Finding a suitable location for a stadium is at the top of the board’s agenda. It will be the group’s first meeting since Gov. Brian Sandoval agreed to extend the life of the committee. Thursday’s meeting was supposed to be the panel’s last gathering. But committee Chairman Steve Hill convinced Sandoval that the panel needs more time to consider stadium options. Earlier this month Sandoval amended the executive order that created the committee, allowing it to meet through September. Stadium developers Las Vegas Sands Corp., Majestic Realty and the Oakland Raiders asked for more time to review nine potential stadium sites at the committee’s July 11 meeting. The developers have proposed a public-private partnership that asks the committee to recommend the use of up to $750 million in room-tax revenue to help finance bonding for the stadium. The facility would be home to UNLV’s football team as well as the Raiders, who would seek permission from the NFL to relocate to Las Vegas if stadium financing is approved by the Nevada Legislature. One of the proposed stadium sites is Cashman Center, a complex owned by the city and managed by the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority. It houses a 98,000-square-foot exhibit hall, 12 meeting rooms, a 1,992-seat theater and the 9,334-seat Cashman Field. The stadium has been the home of the Las Vegas 51s and its predecessors, the Las Vegas Stars, since 1983. The 51s’ owners have proposed a new baseball stadium in the western Las Vegas Valley, adjacent to Downtown Summerlin. Earlier this month, the Las Vegas City Council directed City Manager Betsy Fretwell to push Cashman as an ideal football stadium site. “I think the big plus on Cashman is that the city has ultimate control of the dirt,” Councilman Steve Ross said. “In addition to the 55 acres of the center, we control 25 more acres of the surrounding area, so we’re talking 75 to 80 acres that we already have.” Ross noted that there are some 25,000 parking spaces in downtown Las Vegas to accommodate vehicles and, with some help from the Nevada Department of Transportation, the state could develop easier access to the site from both U.S. Highway 95 and Interstate 15. Cashman Center has been criticized as a potential stadium site because of its distance from the Strip and UNLV, but Ross noted that a light-rail trolley system has been proposed for Maryland Parkway. The transit line would move riders north from McCarran International Airport past UNLV to downtown Las Vegas and the Cashman site. The Review-Journal is owned by the family of Las Vegas Sands Corp. Chairman and CEO Sheldon Adelson. Of course, that last sentence has the potential to invalidate everything above it. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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