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Someone pointed this Wolves prototype jersey out to me. Was on ebay, but the link isn't there anymore, unfortunately. Not sure what season this prototype was made for. Maybe when they made their recent change to remove green from the unis?

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2 hours ago, The Giant Pacific Octopus said:

 

The winning entry was a little girl. I remember it specifically. I remember the Toronto Star article and I remember them announcing it and discussing it on the Fan 590. I don't know if the Fan 590 has archives of their old shows but you should contact their website and inquire.

 

Point us to it in the Toronto Star's online archives, please. I'm sure you can find it, you're a crafty octopus.

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I mean I don't doubt one of the people who wrote in support of the Raptors name was a little girl, but that's not the same thing as "a little girl named the team."

 

And really, so what if she did?

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3 hours ago, Conrad. said:

Someone pointed this Wolves prototype jersey out to me. Was on ebay, but the link isn't there anymore, unfortunately. Not sure what season this prototype was made for. Maybe when they made their recent change to remove green from the unis?

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I'm digging this uniform. Really sleek and really simple. 

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3 hours ago, Conrad. said:

Someone pointed this Wolves prototype jersey out to me. Was on ebay, but the link isn't there anymore, unfortunately. Not sure what season this prototype was made for. Maybe when they made their recent change to remove green from the unis?

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NBA logo is on back, so it should be something between 2014-2016. Wordmark is similar to this what they have on their practice court. Maybe this is a hint (or an early version of a design or unused one by adidas) of Timberwolves new uniforms?

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On 3/3/2017 at 7:27 PM, The Giant Pacific Octopus said:

 

Back when the name was announced I was listening to it on the Fan 590 (a popular sports radio station here in Toronto), and they stated the winning entry was sent in by a little girl and that she was given a prize pack for her name being selected (i think it was something like season tickets and some jerseys and paraphernalia) . And I remember stating to my brother "So they listened to some kid for the team name". We all hated the name when it was announced.

 

As for in print there was an article that mentioned it in the Toronto Star and if I recall a blurb in Gamepro magazine under their "Entertainment News Section"

Here in Toronto? I thought you lived in the Pacific Ocean. 

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13 hours ago, Danny said:

I remember seeing a picture of a Preds player (Shane O'Brien?) wearing that jersey at a community/fan event.

 

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But they never wore it in a game.

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The knicks used white outlines inside the numbers in the 2010 media day, due to the Rev30 switch. In the end they kept the normal blue outline with an additional outline that was the same  color of the jerseydanilo-gallinari-of-the-new-york-knicks-

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3 hours ago, cubsfan2015 said:

I'm digging this uniform. Really sleek and really simple. 

 

I've got to respectfully, but wholeheartedly, disagree with you there.  One of the Wolves' biggest problems is that they aren't vibrant enough.  Going with essentially Spurs-esque jersey that appears to be only black, white, and silver/gray, is basically the exact opposite of what the Wolves need to be doing.  It looks like a create-a-team jersey.  No indication of an identity whatsoever.  I wouldn't even want this as an alternate.

 

I'm not saying they've got to go crazy with green, but they need to use it.  Green makes too much sense to use for them not to use it.

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9 hours ago, The Giant Pacific Octopus said:

 

The winning entry was a little girl. I remember it specifically. I remember the Toronto Star article and I remember them announcing it and discussing it on the Fan 590. I don't know if the Fan 590 has archives of their old shows but you should contact their website and inquire.

 

What I'm saying is that girl wasn't the sole person who suggested Raptors ... it was one of the ten names from 2000 suggestions. From what I've read and found it seems like she just won a drawing of those suggested names. But, there were more factors than just her suggestions -- popularity of the the movie, dinosaurs at the time, focus groups, etc. 

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23 hours ago, SFGiants58 said:

 

Point us to it in the Toronto Star's online archives, please. I'm sure you can find it, you're a crafty octopus.

 

You see here is the thing. I dont go through my life keeping a bibliography of every news report I read or recording every radio spot that I hear especially in the pre-Internet era.. Back in the 1980s and 1990s it never occurred to me that one day I would have to cite something I heard or read to some stranger on something called a "message board" on something called an "Internet". I have a strong memory (especially from the 90s and 80s. When I was younger) and I remember specifically the little girl winning entry news bit.

 

Now if you are so obsessed with tracking down a citation or radio report to verify the story, I've given you the avenues to pursue your research.

 

Here is the Fan590 link

http://www.sportsnet.ca/590/

Contact them and tell them you wish to listen to their radio archives from the 90s (providing they still have the original recordings on file somewhere) and they will help you on your way.

 

Her is The Toronto Star website

https://www.thestar.com/

 

Inquire about finding archives from the sports news stories from the 1990s, and I'm sure they will point you in the right direction.

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48 minutes ago, The Giant Pacific Octopus said:

 

You see here is the thing. I dont go through my life keeping a bibliography of every news report I read or recording every radio spot that I hear especially in the pre-Internet era.. Back in the 1980s and 1990s it never occurred to me that one day I would have to cite something I heard or read to some stranger on something called a "message board" on something called an "Internet". I have a strong memory (especially from the 90s and 80s. When I was younger) and I remember specifically the little girl winning entry news bit.

 

Now if you are so obsessed with tracking down a citation or radio report to verify the story, I've given you the avenues to pursue your research.

 

Here is the Fan590 link

http://www.sportsnet.ca/590/

Contact them and tell them you wish to listen to their radio archives from the 90s (providing they still have the original recordings on file somewhere) and they will help you on your way.

 

Her is The Toronto Star website

https://www.thestar.com/

 

Inquire about finding archives from the sports news stories from the 1990s, and I'm sure they will point you in the right direction.

 

I'm hardly obsessed. I merely take issue with people who randomly throw out things like "a little girl picked the team name" while providing weak evidence. If you want me to believe that "a little girl picked the team name independently and the expansion group bypassed all focus group testing and a team naming contest (which is thoroughly documented) to listen to a specific little girl," you'd best provide a link to it (preferably The Toronto Star, due to the difficulty of linking to radio), please. 

 

Bold claims need bold, concrete (linkable, if discussing things on the internet medium) evidence provided by the claimant. If a student turned in a research paper with no specific citations and told their professor to "go look it up," they'd receive a failing grade on that paper. You don't have the best track record with citing your sources on your claims, and coupled with your gimmicks (a pathological hatred of the Mighty Ducks, blaming the North Stars' failure entirely on high school hockey, and pretending that your actually a giant octopus) growing stagnant, I would like you to buck that trend.

 

Citation matters. MLA, APA, Chicago/Turabian, a simple link to a website or a picture, etc., are the backbone of any good claim in an argument. The joke's probably on me, though. AFAIK, I'm telling a sentient octopus to cite its sources on a story that's about 75% apocryphal.

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20 hours ago, anythinglogos said:

The knicks used white outlines inside the numbers in the 2010 media day, due to the Rev30 switch. In the end they kept the normal blue outline with an additional outline that was the same  color of the jerseydanilo-gallinari-of-the-new-york-knicks-

It's possible that the equipment manager just used the numbers that were supposed to go on the road blue jerseys by accident for this photoshoot.

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5 hours ago, The Giant Pacific Octopus said:

As I stated, I gave you a source from where I got the info from. Now if you want to verify it, you have a means to pursue your research.

That's not how work cited works :upside:

 

Anyway I have no doubt that the success of Jurassic Park led to the team adopting the Raptors name. And I have no doubt the team picked a little girl's entry as the "winning" entry to whip up some positive PR.

 

What I'm having trouble with is why any of this is a bad thing.

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3 hours ago, Lights Out said:

It's possible that the equipment manager just used the numbers that were supposed to go on the road blue jerseys by accident for this photoshoot.

Never thought of it like that, that could very well be the reason. The equipment manager could have been sent the numbers from adidas with no clarification, and seeing the double outline he could have thought that it was the knicks changing uniforms and not the disingenuous outline-that's-the-same-color-as-the-jersey.

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On 3/5/2017 at 2:47 PM, pepis21 said:

 

NBA logo is on back, so it should be something between 2014-2016. Wordmark is similar to this what they have on their practice court. Maybe this is a hint (or an early version of a design or unused one by adidas) of Timberwolves new uniforms?

That is beautiful. 

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On 3/4/2017 at 7:44 PM, kimball said:

 

I'm pretty sure it wasn't the little girl who named the team. There was a contest of over 2,000 suggestions and Raptors was one in 10 that were considered. I'm looking for record of the girl winning the contest, but I'm sure it was a drawing of a few hundred suggestions like how most of these contest end up being.

 

I found this from the official Raptors page: http://www.nba.com/raptors/news/behindthename_081606.html

was it a real name the team contest or some sham of a contest like the Bullets to Wizards naming contest (if i remember right, Abe Pollin's wife like the name Wizards).  

 

 

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On 3/5/2017 at 2:47 PM, pepis21 said:

 

NBA logo is on back, so it should be something between 2014-2016. Wordmark is similar to this what they have on their practice court. Maybe this is a hint (or an early version of a design or unused one by adidas) of Timberwolves new uniforms?

Flip did say the team needed new uniforms. They had probably just started the process before he passed away.

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On 3/5/2017 at 7:06 PM, kimball said:

 

What I'm saying is that girl wasn't the sole person who suggested Raptors ... it was one of the ten names from 2000 suggestions. From what I've read and found it seems like she just won a drawing of those suggested names. But, there were more factors than just her suggestions -- popularity of the the movie, dinosaurs at the time, focus groups, etc. 

If the team wanted to find someone who "chose" the name, they're going to pick the cute little kid over the 40 YO with a scraggly beard and worn cuordoroys. And ultimately, it's the team who chose the name anyway.  Picking a "winner" is a marketing scheme.  To be surprised or hold it against the team seems like missing the forest for the trees (or the reef for the coral, as it were).

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5 hours ago, goalieboy82 said:

was it a real name the team contest or some sham of a contest like the Bullets to Wizards naming contest (if i remember right, Abe Pollin's wife like the name Wizards).  

 

 

 

I am sure it was a nomination for Top 10 list and then the marketing teams in Toronto and the NBA went from there. It seems like most recent expansion teams have gone that route (sans the Bobcats).

 

This Mental Floss article is a good collection of how teams got their names. And, it seems like a number of them have drawn out names for prizes, etc. 

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