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I don't know that I get Dwyane Wade's demands. It seems like he's pulling a Kobe, but without the level of success behind him. Dwyane hasn't played a full season since 2010-11, and didn't look especially great those last couple of playoffs with LeBron.

He's still a very good player, but he's entering his mid-30s. At that point, he's either joining a good team as a solid no. 2 or 3, or a bad team as a no. 1 guy that doesn't go anywhere.

For all of his success, Wade is a level below Curry, Harden, James, Davis and Westbrook. You're not going to win a championship (or even make the playoffs, it seems) with Wade as your guy, so why give him "your guy" money?

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and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags

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I don't know that I get Dwyane Wade's demands. It seems like he's pulling a Kobe, but without the level of success behind him. Dwyane hasn't played a full season since 2010-11, and didn't look especially great those last couple of playoffs with LeBron.

He's still a very good player, but he's entering his mid-30s. At that point, he's either joining a good team as a solid no. 2 or 3, or a bad team as a no. 1 guy that doesn't go anywhere.

For all of his success, Wade is a level below Curry, Harden, James, Davis and Westbrook. You're not going to win a championship (or even make the playoffs, it seems) with Wade as your guy, so why give him "your guy" money?

In 2016-17, the salary cap and luxury tax threshold will increase dramatically. It will increase by over 40% of what it is for this season.

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I don't know that I get Dwyane Wade's demands. It seems like he's pulling a Kobe, but without the level of success behind him. Dwyane hasn't played a full season since 2010-11, and didn't look especially great those last couple of playoffs with LeBron.

He's still a very good player, but he's entering his mid-30s. At that point, he's either joining a good team as a solid no. 2 or 3, or a bad team as a no. 1 guy that doesn't go anywhere.

For all of his success, Wade is a level below Curry, Harden, James, Davis and Westbrook. You're not going to win a championship (or even make the playoffs, it seems) with Wade as your guy, so why give him "your guy" money?

In 2016-17, the salary cap and luxury tax threshold will increase dramatically. It will increase by over 40% of what it is for this season.

Right. I guess the calculus changes then. Maybe he wants max money now so he can have had it, before max money means something completely different.

Anyway, the broader point is I don't know what leverage he has. The Wizards would sign him, sure, but I doubt he'd go there, so what's the point?

1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags

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I don't know that I get Dwyane Wade's demands. It seems like he's pulling a Kobe, but without the level of success behind him. Dwyane hasn't played a full season since 2010-11, and didn't look especially great those last couple of playoffs with LeBron.

He's still a very good player, but he's entering his mid-30s. At that point, he's either joining a good team as a solid no. 2 or 3, or a bad team as a no. 1 guy that doesn't go anywhere.

For all of his success, Wade is a level below Curry, Harden, James, Davis and Westbrook. You're not going to win a championship (or even make the playoffs, it seems) with Wade as your guy, so why give him "your guy" money?

In 2016-17, the salary cap and luxury tax threshold will increase dramatically. It will increase by over 40% of what it is for this season.

Right. I guess the calculus changes then. Maybe he wants max money now so he can have had it, before max money means something completely different.

Anyway, the broader point is I don't know what leverage he has. The Wizards would sign him, sure, but I doubt he'd go there, so what's the point?

Ugh. That sounds like a solid move (similar to what they did with Pierce last off-season) but I don't see him going here without giving him lots of money. Which I wouldn't like given how he's regressed in the past 2-3 years.

Plus, It's going to be hard to adjust to Wade in a different uniform, he's the last of the "franchise" guys from the '03 class to leave his original team, it seems. But if he's really all in for selling out and making money off it, I'm sure a New York-area team will give him what he wants.

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Watch the Lakers toss an absurd amount of money at him because, I dunno, they missed out on Melo last season or something.

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Watch the Lakers toss an absurd amount of money at him because, I dunno, they missed out on Melo last season or something.

LAL have $25 million in cap space, so they could sign one UFA like Rondo plus someone else. Kobe really likes Rondo.

In December, there was this pic of them at brunch in Boston.

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Lol...blows my mind that someone can get to the point where $16.1 million is 'not enough'.

Stop looking at just sports and see others in business who leave one lucritave job for another. If one has leverage, you use it to your advantage.
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Yup, exactly. The money is irrelevant. If you have the ability to use leverage like that, you take it.

That's why people complaining about Lebron changing teams like he ha sis so ridiculous and ultimately so meaningless. The guy has probably more ability to dictate his professional life than anyone in any industry. If you have that kinda of opportunity in your work life, you take advantage of it.

Same with Marshawn Lynch threatening to sit out unless he got his deal restructured last summer. He got a TON of flak for that, but why the hell does he care? He did it because he had the leverage available to him to do that. Most people only wish they had that card to play. It's all about you're value to your company. Most people simply don't offer that kind of value and would probably get shown the door.

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She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.)
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Is that whole thing about Wade never being the highest paid star on his team true? He took a cut when LeBron and Bosh came over, then took another cut in hopes of keeping LeBron this past summer. Maybe he is trying to get some of that back now. He did what was best for the team for years, and now he is doing what he wants for himself. That's all I can gather from this type of move at this point.

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Is that whole thing about Wade never being the highest paid star on his team true? He took a cut when LeBron and Bosh came over, then took another cut in hopes of keeping LeBron this past summer. Maybe he is trying to get some of that back now. He did what was best for the team for years, and now he is doing what he wants for himself. That's all I can gather from this type of move at this point.

He never has. When Wade was under his rookie deal, Eddie Jones made more. When he won his first title still under his rookie deal, Shaq made more. The following year, Shawn Marion made more and in 2009-10. Lastly, MIA had Jermaine O'Neal on the roster for two seasons including when he exercised a $23 million player option.
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Is that whole thing about Wade never being the highest paid star on his team true? He took a cut when LeBron and Bosh came over, then took another cut in hopes of keeping LeBron this past summer. Maybe he is trying to get some of that back now. He did what was best for the team for years, and now he is doing what he wants for himself. That's all I can gather from this type of move at this point.

He never has. When Wade was under his rookie deal, Eddie Jones made more. When he won his first title still under his rookie deal, Shaq made more. The following year, Shawn Marion made more and in 2009-10. Lastly, MIA had Jermaine O'Neal on the roster for two seasons including when he exercised a $23 million player option.
Ask and you shall receive.

That being known, I can't blame the guy for going after his paper.

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The Nets will launch a D-League team sometime in the next few years, based in Brooklyn. They had previously been affiliated with the Springfield Armor, who are now the Pistons' affiliate in Grand Rapids.

There is speculation the team will play its games at LIU-Brooklyn's Steinberg Wellness Center, five blocks away from Barclays Center.

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The Nets will launch a D-League team sometime in the next few years, based in Brooklyn. They had previously been affiliated with the Springfield Armor, who are now the Pistons' affiliate in Grand Rapids.

There is speculation the team will play its games at LIU-Brooklyn's Steinberg Wellness Center, five blocks away from Barclays Center.

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Yeah, but I left out the part where it was out of four competitors, and hardness was less of a category and more of an uncontrollable reaction.

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