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Well they have won the Stanley Cup 7 times, right? That's pretty good I guess...

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The Devils and Kings, in the #1 and #2 media markets, no longer have free, over-the-air radio broadcasts at all. Streaming only. That's pretty sad.

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3 hours ago, the admiral said:

The Devils and Kings, in the #1 and #2 media markets, no longer have free, over-the-air radio broadcasts at all. Streaming only. That's pretty sad.

Is it any less sad than being on a college radio station?  

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Tom Wilson got thrown out of a game again. Next he should be thrown out of his union.

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15 minutes ago, the admiral said:

Tom Wilson got thrown out of a game again. Next he should be thrown out of his union.

Honestly, did he even hit him in the head?

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8 hours ago, Cosmic said:

Honestly, did he even hit him in the head?

No. But it’s Tom Wilson. If anyone in the NHL has a reputation, it’s him. Having watched the hit myself, I feel like it looked way worse in real time. For most people that’s probably a two or five minute penalty, that’s it. 

 

Here’s the conclusion that I come to every time with one of these Wilson hits. Regardless of whether he deserves the punishment for his latest hit, the guy’s got to know better. He’s extremely valuable to this team - we play much, much better with him in the lineup than without him. Knowing this, he needs to dial it way back and not even come close to the line because if he does his reputation will carry him over it.

 

Most Caps fans defend Wilson to a fault and it’s infuriating to me because he does deserve a lot of the punishments he gets, and even though I like him in the lineup because we play better with him, he doesn’t have a good head between his shoulders. He’s immature and needs to realize that his actions are dumb and are hurting his team. He’ll be out of the league before he knows it if he can’t stop. 

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On 11/24/2018 at 7:26 PM, the admiral said:

The Devils and Kings, in the #1 and #2 media markets, no longer have free, over-the-air radio broadcasts at all. Streaming only. That's pretty sad.

It’s actually an improvement considering that the Kings were stuck on an obscure AM political talk station for several years before the move.

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KABC is obscure? Hasn't that been a longtime Dodgers flagship? Still, I don't think it's an improvement to go from having free radio to not having free radio. Data is expensive, car radios are not.

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32 minutes ago, the admiral said:

KABC is obscure? Hasn't that been a longtime Dodgers flagship? Still, I don't think it's an improvement to go from having free radio to not having free radio. Data is expensive, car radios are not.

KABC has fallen off a cliff.  It's the #40 rated station in LA, even below USC's classical music station.  The Dodgers have been on KLAC since 2012 and are 50/50 partners with iHeartMedia.

 

They've also been saddled with KEIB "The Patriot" which, while an improvement at 31st, has much less mainstream recognition.

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I'm no stranger to plummeting heritage AM stations out here: WLS was one of the biggest stations in America at one time, and now, as a dying conservative talk station under failing Cumulus ownership, is right down there with our own classical station and has at times finished behind a gospel station. It's gotten so bad for them that they had to breach their White Sox and Bulls contracts because they couldn't afford the rights anymore. 

 

Nevertheless! Call me old-fashioned, but all major sports teams and some minor ones should have a place on terrestrial radio. I understand that the Kings are doing some sort of "expanded audio experience" deal with iHeart, but as we discussed over the summer with the Hurricanes firing Chuck Kaiton, providing a free local radio broadcast is really a bare minimum for team marketing and exposure, and there's no reason they can't do all this online stuff but also stick the games on one disgraced AM station or another for those who are out of wi-fi range but still want to follow the game. I guess it's a sign of the times: when the Expos discontinued local radio in 2001 or 2002, everyone was like "that's it, this team is as dead as dead can be, no team has ever been this dead," but now the Kings do the same and it's Actually Good.

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The problem?  There are so many terrestrial radio companies on the brink of bankruptcy right now that looking to bail off of the sinking ship is the sound business strategy going forward especially now that unlimited data plans have made a comeback and cars are coming equipped with streaming radio apps built in.

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1 hour ago, LMU said:

The problem?  There are so many terrestrial radio companies on the brink of bankruptcy right now that looking to bail off of the sinking ship is the sound business strategy going forward especially now that unlimited data plans have made a comeback and cars are coming equipped with streaming radio apps built in.

 

Not up in Canada.

 

But as far as I know, all the Canadian NHL teams are on either Sportsnet or TSN stations who took over existing sports radio stations in most, if not all, of the markets.

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15 minutes ago, monkeypower said:

Not up in Canada.

 

Why do you damn Canadians hate freedom so much? :P

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29 minutes ago, Kaz said:

Why do you damn Canadians hate freedom so much? :P

 

Canadian cell phones plans are the most expensive in the world, especially related to the amount of data offered. There is no way you're getting an unlimited data plan up here.

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1 hour ago, Kaz said:

Why do you damn Canadians hate freedom so much? :P

No no, Telus, Rogers and Bell hate freedom... Us Canadians would love some unlimited data plans.

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🎵With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North data free!🎵

 

:flagcanada:

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On 12/1/2018 at 3:31 AM, Crabcake47 said:

No. But it’s Tom Wilson. If anyone in the NHL has a reputation, it’s him. Having watched the hit myself, I feel like it looked way worse in real time. For most people that’s probably a two or five minute penalty, that’s it. 

 

Here’s the conclusion that I come to every time with one of these Wilson hits. Regardless of whether he deserves the punishment for his latest hit, the guy’s got to know better. He’s extremely valuable to this team - we play much, much better with him in the lineup than without him. Knowing this, he needs to dial it way back and not even come close to the line because if he does his reputation will carry him over it.

 

Most Caps fans defend Wilson to a fault and it’s infuriating to me because he does deserve a lot of the punishments he gets, and even though I like him in the lineup because we play better with him, he doesn’t have a good head between his shoulders. He’s immature and needs to realize that his actions are dumb and are hurting his team. He’ll be out of the league before he knows it if he can’t stop. 

 

Having just been in DC for the Ducks/Caps game on Sunday (and oh hot dandy what a goddamn game that was), I've got to say the two things that truly stood out among the Caps fan experience were the "Unleash the Fury" montage/standing ovation (pretty cool and unique moment) and the unreal canonization of Tom Wilson.

 

Especially with it being the game after the New Jersey hit, like I really just don't get the fervor of support for the guy. As a Ducks fan, I'm obviously no stranger to the "hate them on other teams/love them on your team" guys (see: Perry, Corey or Kesler, Ryan), but at a certain point, how does Tom Wilson get to still be that? Perry and Kesler are annoying, sure, but they're not out kabong-ing dudes in the same way Wilson does. Yes, I know, 7 goals in 7 games and like you said, Crabcake, you say that the Caps play better with him in the lineup, but the dude is just flat out reckless.

 

You walk around the concourse, and the ad boards flashed between advertisements and graphics of only three separate players: Ovechkin, Holtby, and Wilson (and at least in my corner of the upper deck, it only seemed to be Ovechkin and Wilson). Wilson shirseys are everywhere, and one of the more prominent non-Ovechkin ones in the team store. Plenty of Wilson jerseys.

 

Again, there are always the on-the-line players on every team, and usually, the hometown fans love that type of guy and fight for his side. But when that guy now has several suspensions on his record with the exact type of thing we're trying to get out of the game? I don't understand how they can still throw THAT LEVEL of support behind him every night.

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2 hours ago, Still MIGHTY said:

 

Having just been in DC for the Ducks/Caps game on Sunday (and oh hot dandy what a gosh darn game that was), I've got to say the two things that truly stood out among the Caps fan experience were the "Unleash the Fury" montage/standing ovation (pretty cool and unique moment) and the unreal canonization of Tom Wilson.

 

Especially with it being the game after the New Jersey hit, like I really just don't get the fervor of support for the guy. As a Ducks fan, I'm obviously no stranger to the "hate them on other teams/love them on your team" guys (see: Perry, Corey or Kesler, Ryan), but at a certain point, how does Tom Wilson get to still be that? Perry and Kesler are annoying, sure, but they're not out kabong-ing dudes in the same way Wilson does. Yes, I know, 7 goals in 7 games and like you said, Crabcake, you say that the Caps play better with him in the lineup, but the dude is just flat out reckless.

 

You walk around the concourse, and the ad boards flashed between advertisements and graphics of only three separate players: Ovechkin, Holtby, and Wilson (and at least in my corner of the upper deck, it only seemed to be Ovechkin and Wilson). Wilson shirseys are everywhere, and one of the more prominent non-Ovechkin ones in the team store. Plenty of Wilson jerseys.

 

Again, there are always the on-the-line players on every team, and usually, the hometown fans love that type of guy and fight for his side. But when that guy now has several suspensions on his record with the exact type of thing we're trying to get out of the game? I don't understand how they can still throw THAT LEVEL of support behind him every night.

Totally agree. The “Free Wilson” sentiment was huge after his suspension to start the season (which btw I think was totally justified). I think Caps fans almost feel like the league has something against him or something. I don’t get it. 

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The only Canadian NHL team that hasn't a radio deal with Rogers Media are the Edmonton Oilers. Their games airs on Corus-O&O radio station 630 CHED.

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