Cosmic Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 59 minutes ago, Morgo said: What's lazy is a design that has yellow and white touching. There's no contrast or definition. The 1994 update fixed that problem without sacrificing what made the logo good. White with a sliver of yellow touching gives it a bit of a glowing effect, to me at least. The yellow can sort of disappear, but maybe that's not a bad thing? I think it works on the Flames' logo. The Ravens' purple can disappear when it's used next to black without an outline, but I think it works for them. It mimics the subtle highlights of the real bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfan1 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 The Black C era uniform colors are fantastic. It's that bad RBK template that needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 So I just read an article about how the blackhawks should change their logo to an actual black hawk bird because it would be "culturally appropriate." I really can't see how the current logo would be inappropriate in any ways, it's the profile of an Indian chief if an accurate and I'd say dignified representation is now considered offensive I don't know what in inoffensive anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, dont care said: So I just read an article about how the blackhawks should change their logo to an actual black hawk bird because it would be "culturally appropriate." I really can't see how the current logo would be inappropriate in any ways, it's the profile of an Indian chief if an accurate and I'd say dignified representation is now considered offensive I don't know what in inoffensive anymore. Look at the Halloween costume guidelines for an idea of what would stand up today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/montreal/chicago-blackhawks-logo-ghislain-picard-1.3305487 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 "Does my costume represent a culture that is not my own" that's ridiculous, any costume is going to inherently represent a different culture than my own, I couldn't dress as a football player because that is technically a different culture than what I am. I do see the controversies with the NFL team in Washington DC and Indians logo because those are racially offensive (Indians not so much but still it can offend people) but just the mere representation of native Americans shouldn't be considered inappropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroCree Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Doesn't the name Blackhawks come from a Native American named Black Hawk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Just now, insert name said: Doesn't the name Blackhawks come from a Native American named Black Hawk? Yes and the team is named after the division that fought in WW1. I don't get offended when teams decide to blaster their uniforms with camo and flags as a representation of the military which Is my culture. Sometimes I think it looks stupid but I definitely don't get offended by it. Now if they used a logo of an overly cartoonish mercinary-esque representation of a soldier I'd be offended the same way people don't like the Indians logo, or had the name idk murderers, hired guns or something then yea I would be offended like the certain NFL team in Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 It comes from an army unit that in turn was named after Black Hawk, who has lots of things named after him around Illinois, Iowa, and Wisconsin. Naming a hockey team after Black Hawk turned out to anticipate the hockey culture of "we defeated you, but we still respect your effort." The Indian Head is the playoff series handshake line of logos. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 "The Blackhawks logo is just as offensive as the Redskins logo" So it's not offensive at all? People only take issue with the Redskins name. Canada has had a bad case of political correctness lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 8 hours ago, ClassicB said: These were the best uniforms the Bruins wore. I loved the gold rim spoked B on this jersey and the black rim on the whites. These (and the whites) jersey's are "to the point". The current uniforms are too busy. Everything is tripled outlined. Hockey jersey's look so much better without shoulder yokes. I know Jocobs is a moron when in 1995 he took what was a classic original six look and turn the Bruins into a Winnipeg Jet's looking expansion team. The current uniforms are only slightly better. Ah, the electrocuted bear logo... I don't know if there was an issue when the logo was digitized (like LSU's chrysanthemum tiger, never use the "autotrace" function in Illustrator), but the zig-zag pattern (which makes it look like it's being electrocuted), splotches of brown, and doofy expression really do make it one of the crummiest shoulder patches in NHL history. Heck, it took them until their current branding to make a good bear logo: With their new alternate, the Bruins have never looked better. MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 39 minutes ago, the admiral said: It comes from an army unit that in turn was named after Black Hawk, who has lots of things named after him around Illinois, Iowa, and Wisconsin. Naming a hockey team after Black Hawk turned out to anticipate the hockey culture of "we defeated you, but we still respect your effort." The Indian Head is the playoff series handshake line of logos. Native American imagery has also been popular since the 18th century, because it was part of American culture that wasn't shared with the British that we had these wild savages running around. I don't know that it's as simple as, "Well done, I say!". I don't think there were a ton of things named after British officers from the War of 1812 or Spanish officers from the Spanish-American War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1409 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 I have just noticed something totally bugging me about the Bruins current homes... I don't know if I'm the only one noticing it but here's the thing. The yellow socks are supposed to match the stripping patern. They have switched colors to match the sleeve stripes of these : But the current uniforms : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 1 hour ago, dont care said: "Does my costume represent a culture that is not my own" that's ridiculous, any costume is going to inherently represent a different culture than my own, I couldn't dress as a football player because that is technically a different culture than what I am. No, no, no. 1 hour ago, dont care said: I do see the controversies with the NFL team in Washington DC and Indians logo because those are racially offensive (Indians not so much but still it can offend people) but just the mere representation of native Americans shouldn't be considered inappropriate. Yeah, it kind of should. At the the very least, we should tread very carefully when depicting somebody else's culture in the kind of cultural shorthand that is a sports mascot. Especially when it's a people that our our nation has at times barely acknowledged as human and a culture our society has worked so hard to demolish. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan33 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 4 hours ago, Cosmic said: White with a sliver of yellow touching gives it a bit of a glowing effect, to me at least. The yellow can sort of disappear, but maybe that's not a bad thing? I think it works on the Flames' logo. The Ravens' purple can disappear when it's used next to black without an outline, but I think it works for them. It mimics the subtle highlights of the real bird. Yellow disappearing from their primary logo is certainly a bad thing... it's their secondary colour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnPheitseog Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, Gothamite said: No, no, no. Yeah, it kind of should. At the the very least, we should tread very carefully when depicting somebody else's culture in the kind of cultural shorthand that is a sports mascot. Especially when it's a people that our our nation has at times barely acknowledged as human and a culture our society has worked so hard to demolish. My problem with things. I don't care about named like the braves, or Indians, or blackhawks. The issue to me(and why it is best to avoid such things) are the war chops, headdresses, war paint and such that come along with it. That's the kind of idiocy that(i would imagine) is the most offensive and idiotic. Formerly known as DiePerske Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollins Man Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 2 hours ago, Ark said: "The Blackhawks logo is just as offensive as the Redskins logo" So it's not offensive at all? People only take issue with the Redskins name. Canada has had a bad case of political correctness lately. it's really bad up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Crying "political correctness" is like a Hitler comparison; an admission that you've lost the argument. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Usually the the opposing side says "you're just wrong, it's offensive" so there is no real argument to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 There's been ample discussion of the particulars over the past forty-plus years. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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