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19 minutes ago, guest23 said:

 

If it's easier logistically it stays. This is a private organization that uses a cartel business model. They make their own rules, there is nothing binding at all. If the owners are ok with the exception they make the exception. The rule makes no sense anyway.

I figure at this point, it's easier to keep the Bowl in LA than move it. I can't imagine them enforcing the rule. Also I know for sure that's a NFL-only rule... MLB has never had any qualms about new stadiums hosting the All-Star Game, for instance.

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11 hours ago, Quillz said:

I figure at this point, it's easier to keep the Bowl in LA than move it. I can't imagine them enforcing the rule. Also I know for sure that's a NFL-only rule... MLB has never had any qualms about new stadiums hosting the All-Star Game, for instance.

 

I worked on a stadium (LFF) during its first season and I'll tell you that in no way could we have hosted a major event like the SB. It took the entire first season to really "know" the stadium and what works from an operational perspective (stadiums aren't plug-and-play when it comes to staffing needs, game-day management, vendors, fan needs, etc). 

 

It would likely be a miserable experience for fans, as it's not not possible to have all the quirks figured out (and more importantly, fixed) during the season. 

 

Thats not a knock on their ability to put together a great stadium mgmt team - it holds true for every stadium. 

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15 hours ago, Quillz said:

Damn... Does this also mean LA is out of the running to host the Super Bowl?

 

But hey, at least the new identity will still come with the new stadium.

The would likely have to request a waiver from the NFL to host the Super Bowl in the first year a stadium opens.

 

 

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47 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

I worked on a stadium (LFF) during its first season and I'll tell you that in no way could we have hosted a major event like the SB. It took the entire first season to really "know" the stadium and what works from an operational perspective (stadiums aren't plug-and-play when it comes to staffing needs, game-day management, vendors, fan needs, etc). 

 

It would likely be a miserable experience for fans, as it's not not possible to have all the quirks figured out (and more importantly, fixed) during the season. 

 

Thats not a knock on their ability to put together a great stadium mgmt team - it holds true for every stadium. 

 

Didn't we sort of see this with Dallas? The Super Bowl was in the second season of Jerryworld and even then I remember there being a lot of glitches. And I don't just mean the Packers winning! hoo hoo!

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Hopefully this will turn into a textbook example of how not to manage your brand and the NFL will change its archaic rules. A team moves cross country and the rules prohibit them from updating their look for several years? Idiotic. It's true that the stadium delay is not related to the NFL uniform rules. However, it is a problem considering the Rams want the new set to correspond to the debut of the new building...meaning we have to begrudgingly tolerate these horrible mishmash of styles for possibly four seasons.

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On 1/12/2016 at 8:48 AM, OnWis97 said:

Now that we are close to having LA teams, I am surprised there is no thread in this forum on what they may look like.

Is there any way we are looking at an identity overhaul?

 

I'd say it's unlikely, particularly given the three teams we are talking about.. Both the Rams and Raiders have history in LA (so do the Chargers, but not as memorable). It would be really odd to see the Rams, who've been the Rams since, what the 30s (?), change names. I don't think whatever sympathy there is for St. Louis will cause much momentum for a Cleveland Deal, thanks to the history in LA, the lacking certainty that St. Louis will have a team again, and the lack of "lunchpail/blue collar fan" reputation. The Raiders also have LA history and while they've had a rough decade plus, their brand has historical importance. I think their brand would stay the same not only if they moved to LA but to San Antonio or London. Also, like St. Louis, there will be nothing near a guarantee that Oakland will ever get another team.

 

San Diego is the most likely to overhaul, but probably still unlikely. Given the proximity of San Diego to LA, they may even retain some fans. Plus it's a brand that's been around for 50 years or so and, once again, no Cleveland Deal is likely for San Diego. Truth is, I don't like the identity (curved lightning bolts?) but I certainly don't want to see it change, diminishing those 50 years and resulting in something likely to be worse.

 

I have no horse in the race, so as a neutral fan, I'd like to see the names remain the same, and the identities essentially the same.

 

Predictions:

  • If Raiders move: No identity change save for "Oakland" to "Los Angeles."
  • If Rams move: No name change. The horns stay. Move to the old blue/yellow scheme (60%). Otherwise, stay with current look (35%) or move to old blue/white scheme (5%)
  • If Chargers move: No name change. The bolts stay on the helmet. Stay with current look (80%). Otherwise go to some old look (15%) or a new variation of the "bolts" (5%)

 

Any thoughts?

 

I'm not trying to be snarky but I have to think that people suggesting that any of these teams change their identity have to be on the younger side or very naive about the NFL. 

 

On field success aside, these are 3 of the most visually iconic NFL franchises.  Their uniforms especially their helmets are or have been amongst the most iconic in league history.  Why on earth would you ever change these identies? No way anything new would have the staying power. Like many have said the absolute best options would be for both la teams to revert back to older looks.  

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15 hours ago, Quillz said:

I figure at this point, it's easier to keep the Bowl in LA than move it. I can't imagine them enforcing the rule. Also I know for sure that's a NFL-only rule... MLB has never had any qualms about new stadiums hosting the All-Star Game, for instance.

 

That's because of the various leagues' schedules.  Baseball teams work out the kinks in their stadiums much more quickly.

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2 minutes ago, joey joe joe jr. shabadoo said:

 

It looks fine. I get an Indianapolis Colts vibe from it but...still very solid. The helmet just looks kind of empty without the blue and yellow.

The bumper needs a word mark on it bad. Cant be plain white

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The only reason that card doesn't look terrible is because the glow from the lighting is drowning out the gold just enough that you're not processing it at first glance. If you looked at that picture without knowing the Rams were gold you'd have to look hard to notice it. 

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They should have left the facemask navy blue IMO. I don't like how the horns, bumper and facemask all blend into each other now.

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I still don't follow the logic of keeping these jerseys in tact so they don't take a huge loss on jersey sales...

 

I mean, is there ANYONE actually buying anything but yellow and blue gear? Anyone in LA or StL buying St Louis era jerseys?

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4 hours ago, ColeJ said:

I still don't follow the logic of keeping these jerseys in tact so they don't take a huge loss on jersey sales...

 

I mean, is there ANYONE actually buying anything but yellow and blue gear? Anyone in LA or StL buying St Louis era jerseys?

 

It has to be the opposite case...I can't imagine anyone that would want to buy the regular jersey at this point...the throwback has to outsell it by a wide margin at this point.

 

As I have said a few times they could have easily swapped the tan for yellow/white or simply made a white throwback,...that would be zero design effort and could have been an expedited manufacturing run...my suspicion still is that goodell was pissed that stan forced his way into LA so the league was absolutely not going to do him any favors.

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5 hours ago, ColeJ said:

I still don't follow the logic of keeping these jerseys in tact so they don't take a huge loss on jersey sales...

 

I mean, is there ANYONE actually buying anything but yellow and blue gear? Anyone in LA or StL buying St Louis era jerseys?

Probably not... I wanted to buy a Goff jersey, but I didn't want a jersey that is out of date in a few years

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32 minutes ago, Jake Manternach Creative said:

Probably not... I wanted to buy a Goff jersey, but I didn't want a jersey that is out of date in a few years

That's not a nice thing to say about Goff. 

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8 hours ago, Brave-Bird 08 said:

The only reason that card doesn't look terrible is because the glow from the lighting is drowning out the gold just enough that you're not processing it at first glance. If you looked at that picture without knowing the Rams were gold you'd have to look hard to notice it. 

 

Yeah, I know. Still doesn't look as bad as I imagined it would have. 

 

Although this could be because I'm pleasantly surprised on how much I love this new helmet. Obviously, I still prefer the royal blue and yellow color scheme, but I wouldn't be as unhappy if they stayed navy and white as I originally thought I would be.

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