ZionEagle Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 So I won't be able to post the full bodied griffin tonight because I'm still working it all out Already working on one Just haven't gotten to it yet. Thanks though! "Winners never quit, and quitters never win." ~Vince Lombardi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whittier S Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I'm really digging that last double-red color scheme. Can't wait to see the full body. One thing I get from this concept is that it's possible to create great work with bad software--sorry, PowerPoint is great for what it's designed for, but you know what I mean--as long as you're willing to take the extra time and effort to make it work. Let this be a lesson to those who write off their inferior work as being attributed to low-level software. (Though, that said, there are still more possibilities with actual graphic software.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionEagle Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 @Whittier S I couldn't agree more. Thank you "Winners never quit, and quitters never win." ~Vince Lombardi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suplauren Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 17 hours ago, ZionEagle said: Like this? This looks a lot better! Can't wait for the full-body logo. laurenlogos.tumblr.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionEagle Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 Wish Granted. It's still kind of rough, I don't like something but I can't put my finger on it. I was having trouble making the body just because of the pose. "Winners never quit, and quitters never win." ~Vince Lombardi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoE38_Concepts Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 That body logo is pretty sick, but I agree about something that doesn't look right. Maybe a silhouette-like position? I would also remove the outline on the neck. @noe38concepts (Instagram - Twitter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionEagle Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 That body logo is pretty sick, but I agree about something that doesn't look right. Maybe a silhouette-like position? I would also remove the outline on the neck. The silhouette position didn't really work out for the logo, but thanks for suggesting it. Yeah, maybe I'll remove the neck line. I was trying to make it a mane without removing aspects of the head logo. Thanks NoE38. Any more feedback before I work on the logo again? (It's at the bottom of page one for those that haven't seen it.) "Winners never quit, and quitters never win." ~Vince Lombardi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujju2 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Body's fine, but I think the head and body aren't fitting together perfectly for some reason. Also, what if the end of the tail was the same goldish colour as the wing? Looking really good, can't wait to see the finished product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionEagle Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 Thanks @ujju2 I'll rework the logo today or tomorrow. "Winners never quit, and quitters never win." ~Vince Lombardi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoe12 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 The head-only logo works well, and the body is well drawn, but the place where they meet looks very awkward. I would remove the highlight to help it fit together better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugevolsfan Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Great Job on this Zion I have always like your work! My Fictional Football League Version 3 My Fictional Football Leagues WebsiteMy Church Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujju2 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 5 hours ago, jmoe12 said: The head-only logo works well, and the body is well drawn, but the place where they meet looks very awkward. I would remove the highlight to help it fit together better. Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at. Looks like it's a lion with an eagle mask. In that the head fits more like a mask than a head. Maybe it's just the size of the head, I can really see this becoming a great logo. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suplauren Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 On 3/9/2016 at 2:51 PM, ZionEagle said: Wish Granted. It's still kind of rough, I don't like something but I can't put my finger on it. I was having trouble making the body just because of the pose. The wings are really low on the body. They'll look better if they start in the shoulder area. Right now they're sprouting from the middle of its spine. Its back foot in the shadows also needs to be up a little higher. Perspective wise, it needs to be standing further back than all the other feet. I also think you should move down the top of the neck. You'll have to make this one look a little different at that part than just the head, but I think that's okay. Finally, I think the wings would look better in red with gold highlights like the rest of the body. This is a great start though! I love the pose. It's intimidating but not over the top. laurenlogos.tumblr.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujju2 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I like the wings in the colour they are, personally. I agree, the anatomy of wings being that low is a bit off, but I do think the balance is better the way it is. Although accuracy would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionEagle Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 Okay then. Thank you all so much for the feedback! I really appreciate it. This logo is a personal favorite, and I happy people are willing to help me make it better. Before I reveal my edits, I'll reply to some posts here. The head-only logo works well, and the body is well drawn, but the place where they meet looks very awkward. I would remove the highlight to help it fit together better. Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at. Looks like it's a lion with an eagle mask. In that the head fits more like a mask than a head. Maybe it's just the size of the head, I can really see this becoming a great logo. Well done. First off, thank you both for the compliments. Second, I do agree and that is one of the main issues I tried to remedy with this update. Great Job on this Zion I have always like your work! Didn't know I had a fan... Thank you The wings are really low on the body. They'll look better if they start in the shoulder area. Right now they're sprouting from the middle of its spine. Its back foot in the shadows also needs to be up a little higher. Perspective wise, it needs to be standing further back than all the other feet. I also think you should move down the top of the neck. You'll have to make this one look a little different at that part than just the head, but I think that's okay. Finally, I think the wings would look better in red with gold highlights like the rest of the body. This is a great start though! I love the pose. It's intimidating but not over the top. Lauren, thanks for taking the time to reply. I moved the wings up, and raised the back foot. I also tried to move down the neck a bit as well. However I kept the wing colors the same, it looks better that way. Personal preference really. I like the wings in the colour they are, personally. I agree, the anatomy of wings being that low is a bit off, but I do think the balance is better the way it is. Although accuracy would be nice. Agreed. Now for the new logo. Old: New: (I also did the yellow tail just for a try, I have it brown though too.) Comments? "Winners never quit, and quitters never win." ~Vince Lombardi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoE38_Concepts Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 That looks amazing. @noe38concepts (Instagram - Twitter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whittier S Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I agree with suplauren, move the wings up the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionEagle Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 @NoE38 Thanks. Glad you like it. @Whittier S I had moved the wings up a bit. You think they still need to go up higher? Any more criticism so I can decide what needs to be reworked? "Winners never quit, and quitters never win." ~Vince Lombardi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmiller5 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 My issue with the full body logo is that it looks like the head is plastered on a different body. There isn't really any integration between the head and the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whittier S Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 6 hours ago, ZionEagle said: @NoE38 Thanks. Glad you like it. @Whittier S I had moved the wings up a bit. You think they still need to go up higher? Any more criticism so I can decide what needs to be reworked? I guess I picture the wings coming more out of the shoulders than the middle of the back. Of course, griffins don't exist so you get some artistic license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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