smzimbabwe Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 On 1/7/2017 at 8:32 PM, Thaumatrope said: That's a great question. Many years ago I remember reading an article talking about how the NHL is the RC Cola of professional sports. The gist was that the NHL represents a niche sport with substantial limits as to how big the sport can grow, but that the fans it does have are very passionate and loyal. However, rather than embracing it's cult status the NHL has tried desperately to compete with the NFL and NBA (Coke and Pepsi) only to fall short time and again. These challenges are only exacerbated on the global level. The point being that even the most successful and popular NHL teams will probably only have a fringe following in all but a handful of countries. I remember that article and because of it, my friend and I went out of our way to buy RC cola whenever we could... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentColon2 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I like RC Cola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 the team has pretty much settled on its design and color scheme Oh, that's nice ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasBound Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Quick SparkyChewBarky, still time to challenge them ripping off your logo ideas Would be a shame if someone tipped off the examining lawyer to their thievery... TM ATTORNEY JOHNSON, DANYTHE ELIZA http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4808:a0iug2.2.1 http://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer?caseId=sn87247219&docId=PST20170307075941#docIndex=0&page=1 http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87247219&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch Tell me they didn't rip you off, they started by infringing on names, colors, creeds even the damn minor logos, feel for ya Sparky, you are a master and they stole it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltravesty Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 but why can't they release a sketch of the uniforms? Why do they need to be shown first in person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasBound Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 If I had to guess they stole more ideas off other people and want to avoid the issue. Bottom line, yes I hate the name, most of us in LV do, no denying it. What really erked us is his lack of respect for our city name and opinion, he literally picked the least liked name, stole it, colors, creed, etc. It makes me so sad they even stole Sparkys ideas. You think the jersey will be original LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 14 hours ago, coltravesty said: but why can't they release a sketch of the uniforms? Why do they need to be shown first in person? because releasing a concept doesn't create as much hype as a big televised reveal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 4 hours ago, dont care said: because releasing a concept doesn't create as much hype as a big televised reveal. "YOUR Vegas Golden Knights!" *Vegas Uniform Placeholders* PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasBound Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-ROY Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 On 3/7/2017 at 7:43 PM, VegasBound said: Tell me they didn't rip you off, they started by infringing on names, colors, creeds even the damn minor logos, feel for ya Sparky, you are a master and they stole it. Names and colors? He based the identity, both name and colors, off rumors about the team. 3 hours ago, VegasBound said: Almost forgot about these logo's Sparky did as well, cut this man a check Foley! So you're at the point of editing his logo to make it look similar to Vegas' logo? Really? Making a logo influenced by the most common symbol of Las Vegas and hockey-ifying it isn't stealing his work. Don't you think they already had designs in mind for what they wanted to do at the time of the creation of Sparky's work? There's no argument that they stole Sparky's design, none of it. At most, they were influenced by it and that has no legal standing. Now please stop, for all our sakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasBound Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Honestly didn't realize I posted those pics, my mistake, will edit. Was meaning to show there's vs Sparky's. If anything you just proved my point, I confused Sparky's design with "there's". No doubt the idea/concept is Sparky's, none. I am shocked a member of this forum especially would be so bold to state influence was all it was lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-ROY Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, VegasBound said: Honestly didn't realize I posted those pics, my mistake, will edit. Was meaning to show there's vs Sparky's. If anything you just proved my point, I confused Sparky's design with "there's". No doubt the idea/concept is Sparky's, none. I am shocked a member of this forum especially would be so bold to state influence was all it was lol What? That's not at all what you did. You had the team's logo and "Sparky's" logo. "Sparky's" logo was clearly edited to make it appear way more similar to the team's logo. The only thing say about that second bit is that common sense goes a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasBound Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Sparky's logo was not to my knowledge edited to look more like the teams, in fact his came first. Sparky's logo was his own and I will leave that for him to chime in on. My point was simply to show what each looked like "side by side" unedited, I would never think of it nor have anything to gain from that nor do I believe Sparky ever would. Perhaps you feel it was edited because it was so similar which again proves the point on how similar they are. I have plenty of common sense, too much to fall for "it was just influence". If that's the case is the teams name just influence as well? Colors? Army creed to fight etc? Foley wanting them to parachute? In fact they dropped T-shirts with little parachutes on them from the sky that night at the name reveal!!!! I could go on but if you read back far enough it is clear the man doesn't have an original bone in his body. Not to mention he started the whole process saying he wanted to copy his old school. The man is not defendable.....sorry and sincerely, goodnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildwing64 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 There are enough similarities between the two logos, but they're both taking influence from exactly the same thing. The Knights using the Welcome to Las Vegas sign was an inevitable brand direction if anything. PotD: 24/08/2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 A logo being posted on a message board does not mean that it was designed first. There's a little thing called the trademark application process to go through. There's also a reason there were rumors swirling around for weeks/months. This whole crusade against Foley ends NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaris Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Who really cares, this whole team is a joke and provides zero benefit whatsoever to the league. You could hold maybe 20 games there using whatever teams you want and it would actually get attendance. Vegas will dilute the talent pool in the league further. You got drug problems with a couple of the players in LA? Imagine them living in Vegas or even just the opposing teams coming to visit. It's a unmitigated disaster waiting to happen. Nobody wants this team, nobody will care about this team, and the league will be stuck with another black hole to throw money into. They lied about trademark issues. They made a ridiculous deal out of unveiling a logo. The owner has no idea how to run a team and has not enough passion. Give it five years tops and you'll realize I was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildwing64 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Solaris said: Who really cares, this whole team is a joke and provides zero benefit whatsoever to the league. Expansion fees. PotD: 24/08/2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joekono Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Solaris, it was like you were reading my mind. Did anyone ever consider Vegas when expansion was discussed? If so, I sure as hell don't remember. You mean you mean to tell me any of the Canadian places discussed i.e Hamilton , Quebec or anyone else north of the the border wouldn't have been a better choice! As far as the US, KC and Seattle seem far more attractive than Vegas but as wildwing64 made reference to.....it's all about the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalChef Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 On 6/19/2016 at 1:30 PM, daniel75 said: Those are all awful, looks like ECHL teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 On 3/8/2017 at 3:22 PM, Ice_Cap said: "YOUR Vegas Golden Knights!" *Vegas Uniform Placeholders* I said, THE VEGAS! UNIFORM! PLACEHOLDERS! ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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