Gothamite Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 3 hours ago, BrandMooreArt said: are there any numbers available that show how much a team nets in jersey sales year to year? i imagine it would be fairly small in comparison to tickets/sponosrships/etc The league doesn't like sharing that level of data. We know how much the Packers make in merchandise, thanks to shareholder reports, but I'm not sure that even the Packers break it down that far. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aawagner011 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 7 hours ago, ATLfan said: @aawagner011 where did you find those images? Even though those jerseys aren't for sale on the website yet, if you know how to play with Google, you can find the listings. Try searching "site:lids.com Nike Limited Vapor Untouchable jersey" and a whole bunch show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germanshepherd Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 11 hours ago, Quillz said: I'm actually surprised how conservative the Panthers have been given their expansion nature. But I also think that while bland, the Panthers have a pretty decent uniform set as it is, and don't really need to be changing things up too much. I'd say just make the blue jerseys the primary, remove the pants logo and call it a day. i have unquantifiable corpses on my conscience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 If we're making tweaks I'd do something about the awkward helmet stripes. But yeah, on the whole it's pretty good. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Go with black or silver pants with white jerseys. The white pants / silver helmet look is bad. Other than that, it's a fine uniform that has stood the test of time. Even their sorta-goofy pants stripe now actually looks "traditional". "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VDizzle12 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Gothamite said: If we're making tweaks I'd do something about the awkward helmet stripes. But yeah, on the whole it's pretty good. Probably the worst helmet stripes in the NFL. I have never understood why they have kept them for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 3 hours ago, VDizzle12 said: Probably the worst helmet stripes in the NFL. I have never understood why they have kept them for so long. Agreed. They look good from the front . . . and really bad from the back and sides. Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gek_6 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 1 hour ago, leopard88 said: Agreed. That look good from the front . . . and really bad from the back and sides. Holy I've never even noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 48 minutes ago, gek_6 said: Holy I've never even noticed. Sorry to spoil it for you. In my experience, it is something that I don't notice much during live action because there is less chance to focus on it. It becomes apparent in photos. I'm seriously curious to find out why the helmets were designed that way. There doesn't seem to be any reason to design the stripes that way other than . . . "just because." Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, leopard88 said: Sorry to spoil it for you. In my experience, it is something that I don't notice much during live action because there is less chance to focus on it. It becomes apparent in photos. I'm seriously curious to find out why the helmets were designed that way. There doesn't seem to be any reason to design the stripes that way other than . . . "just because." I always assumed they were trying to follow the ridge on one of the newly released helmet shells -- probably the Riddell Revolution It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGoldPants Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 2 hours ago, leopard88 said: Agreed. They look good from the front . . . and really bad from the back and sides. Kinda like the Mullet. Check out my site at stevebcreations.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, Sec19Row53 said: I always assumed they were trying to follow the ridge on one of the newly released helmet shells -- probably the Riddell Revolution Were any of the newer styles around in 1995? Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, leopard88 said: Were any of the newer styles around in 1995? oh - good point. Per wiki - 2002. It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 On 4/30/2017 at 1:25 AM, aawagner011 said: Came across a slew of retail images which suggest which teams will and will not switch to the new template. These jerseys shown are the midrange "Limited" line which take their general styling and cut of a replica but with some of the more on field details. Notable that the Packers, Panthers, Colts, and Bucs are sticking with their current templates. I was interested to see how teams like the Seahawks and Bengals would switch over. And of course, you'll have a few collar tweaks like the Pats where the trim comes to a point by the NFL shield. Where can I find an image of the Bengals black and orange jerseys in this template? The white jerseys were never that much of a problem with the "toilet bowl" collars because the orange yoke was a natural cutoff point for the collar. Now it looks like we're back to a template that looks closer to what Reebok intended back in 2004.The toilet bowl looked bad on the black and orange jerseys though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperV03 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, McCarthy said: Where can I find an image of the Bengals black and orange jerseys in this template? The white jerseys were never that much of a problem with the "toilet bowl" collars because the orange yoke was a natural cutoff point for the collar. Now it looks like we're back to a template that looks closer to what Reebok intended back in 2004.The toilet bowl looked bad on the black and orange jerseys though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Thanks. That looks so much better. Have we had confirmation this is actually how these teams will wear the jersey on the field or is that a retail only change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Here's why I think the Panthers helmet stripes work: 1. A traditional helmet stripe would "cut off" the logo. The logo is designed such that the angle in the back goes pretty far, so even if it doesn't touch the stripe, having a normal stripe creates a visual "container" or "blocker" for the logo. It's better with nothing behind it. 2. There's no straight-vertical stripes anywhere else on the uniform. The pants taper, and the shoulder stripes (when replicated to spec) taper into the pits (I think that's the official spec.) A traditional helmet stripe would clash with that. If you want to argue that it should be more like the Ravens or Titans helmet stripe, then I may agree with you. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said: Here's why I think the Panthers helmet stripes work: 1. A traditional helmet stripe would "cut off" the logo. The logo is designed such that the angle in the back goes pretty far, so even if it doesn't touch the stripe, having a normal stripe creates a visual "container" or "blocker" for the logo. It's better with nothing behind it. 2. There's no straight-vertical stripes anywhere else on the uniform. The pants taper, and the shoulder stripes (when replicated to spec) taper into the pits (I think that's the official spec.) A traditional helmet stripe would clash with that. If you want to argue that it should be more like the Ravens or Titans helmet stripe, then I may agree with you. You're correct on both points - I think a single helmet stripe (tapered) that is similar to the pants' stripe would work. Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 37 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said: Here's why I think the Panthers helmet stripes work: 1. A traditional helmet stripe would "cut off" the logo. The logo is designed such that the angle in the back goes pretty far, so even if it doesn't touch the stripe, having a normal stripe creates a visual "container" or "blocker" for the logo. It's better with nothing behind it. 2. There's no straight-vertical stripes anywhere else on the uniform. The pants taper, and the shoulder stripes (when replicated to spec) taper into the pits (I think that's the official spec.) A traditional helmet stripe would clash with that. If you want to argue that it should be more like the Ravens or Titans helmet stripe, then I may agree with you. I'll make that argument. If the idea was to design something nontraditional, that was the better option. You say that a straight stripe would create a visual "container" or "blocker" for the logo. However, traditional stripes wouldn't come anywhere near the logo. They would end near the 69 in the top photo below. On the other hand, the actual stripes seriously impinge upon the logo's natural space. In fact, they almost run into the logo in most instances, as shown in the other two pictures. That is a far worse offense, in my opinion, than any "container" created by a traditional stripe. I would be fine with any of the following: 1. Making the current stripes look more like traditional stripes. 2. Getting rid of the stripes completely. 3. Using Ravens-Titans style spikes. Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynasty Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 1 hour ago, upperV03 said: It's amazing how many tweaks they are from being a good jersey. Removing the white panels and the 3D shadowing on the numbers would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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