Gothamite

North American Pro Soccer 2017

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I stand corrected, but the as I stated in page prior, even that Acee piece noted the lease terms may/may not be available for the public to read before Election Day. 

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And if that's the case, then the proposal deserves to go down in flames.

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On 5/12/2017 at 10:10 PM, mr.negative15 said:

Care to expand on that thought?

 

I'm not even necessarily arguing I'm just curious as to why you say this

 

The MLS teams in Canada are doing OK, but with a league that is going to focus on mostly Canadian rosters, the talent and entertainment level isn't going to be that high, frankly. Plus, MLS has captured the top three markets in the country, so that removes a lot of potential money (and owners) and fans. Attendance for the lower league teams currently in Canada in USL, NASL isn't great either.  

 

Yes, we have a zillion channels between Sportsnet and TSN, but I can't seem them putting money into covering the league. Hell, most of the time the same crap is on all the channels at the same time!

 

We had a Canadian pro league before and it flamed out after five years. I hope this one does well and helps produce more pro players for Canada, but I'll reserve judgement until they have more than 2 teams announced and have impressive deep pocketed owners. It will also be very interesting if they'll be able to balance developing Canadian talent with the $$$ potential of bringing in foreign players. 

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The Cosmos fans I know are pretty pissed off right now, as their mighty club got bounced out of the US Open Cup by an amateur team, and they're now off to the Middle East to play a friendly in Riyadh (that they rescheduled an NASL game for).  

 

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This has fueled speculation that Sela Sports still has an ownership stake in the club, not to mention the bad feelings that winning over NYC isn't really their priority.  

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I just got a pretty good look at Phoenix Rising's new park. Wow, that's pretty impressive. 

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That reminds me quite a bit of Papa Murphy's Park (Bonney Field) in Sacramento, but with more bells and whistles. And that location on McClintock off the Loop 202 next to Tempe Marketplace is AWESOME. Totally underused area that needed something like this. I'm kinda bummed they didn't have the team when I was there. 

 

Here's a story on it with a video showing the park a bit more. Not sure why all the headlines say it's in Scottsdale, though. That's most definitely Tempe. 

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017/05/24/mls-expansion-sacramento-republic/

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As for FC Cincinnati....

http://www.wcpo.com/sports/fc-cincinnati/fc-cincinnati-could-be-asking-for-up-to-250-million-in-public-aid-to-join-mls

 

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FC Cincinnati says it doesn’t want a tax increase, but it is asking local governments for millions in public aid to build a soccer-specific stadium so it can win one of the four Major League Soccer expansion franchises up for grabs.

 

FC Cincinnati President Jeff Berding went public with his club‘s pitch at a Thursday news conference, calling for “a little help” in creating a public-private partnership and saying that his club can’t win an MLS franchise in the competition with 11 other cities without its own soccer stadium.

 

Berding said FC Cincinnati is committed to spending $250 million of its own money -- $150 million for MLS franchise fees and $100 million toward the stadium. Berding wouldn’t say how much public money the club wants, but he did say FC Cincinnati’s contribution would cover more than half of what’s needed to build a stadium. So it figures it could be asking for less than $100 million in public aid.

 

Berding and team ownership led by Carl Lindner III know what they’re up against by asking for public money in a town that has buyer’s remorse from using hundreds of millions of sales tax dollars to finance the Bengals and Reds stadiums. The mayor and county commissioners have already gone on record against any tax hike. A group called No More Stadium Taxes vowed this week to fight any taxes for a soccer stadium or new Downtown arena, since the owners of US Bank Arena have their hands out, too.

 

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9 minutes ago, Gothamite said:

Well, that's very disappointing. 

As for the desired sites....

 

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/2017/05/24/heres-where-fc-cincinnati-looking-build-new-stadium/343095001/

 

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The upstart franchise, hoping to make the jump to Major League Soccer in the next few years, is looking to build a $200 million stadium possibly on one of these sites: 

• West End: Taft high school's football stadium – and some land around it – near Central Parkway, just west of Music Hall and Washington Park.

• Oakley: Land around Oakley Station off Interstate 71 and Ridge Road, including the former Cincinnati Milacron plant site.

• Newport: The site long planned for the Ovation mixed-use development near the confluence of the Ohio and Licking rivers, land that offers a clear view of the Downtown Cincinnati skyline.

 

Both Hamilton County Commissioner Todd Portune and Cincinnati Mayor John Cranley have said they do not see taxpayer money going toward a new soccer stadium.

 

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7 hours ago, Bucfan56 said:

I just got a pretty good look at Phoenix Rising's new park. Wow, that's pretty impressive. 

1200px-PRFC_Soccer_Complex.jpg

IMG_1713_1490511305373_57374224_ver1.0_6

 

That reminds me quite a bit of Papa Murphy's Park (Bonney Field) in Sacramento, but with more bells and whistles. And that location on McClintock off the Loop 202 next to Tempe Marketplace is AWESOME. Totally underused area that needed something like this. I'm kinda bummed they didn't have the team when I was there. 

 

Here's a story on it with a video showing the park a bit more. Not sure why all the headlines say it's in Scottsdale, though. That's most definitely Tempe. 

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017/05/24/mls-expansion-sacramento-republic/

Isn't it right on the border between Tempe and Scottsdale? I remember seeing the Marketplace sign when I would travel through. I think some of their acreage may split both areas.

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13 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

Isn't it right on the border between Tempe and Scottsdale? I remember seeing the Marketplace sign when I would travel through. I think some of their acreage may split both areas.

The stadium sits on tribal land, so the Salt River Pima Maricopa tribe just uses the most desirable ZIP.

 

Oh, and earlier in May, the Salt River Pima's land asset company, the Solanna Group and Phoenix Rising did partner for the stadium with the Devil....Goldman Sachs.

 

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/phoenix-rising-football-club-retains-goldman-sachs-as-structuring-agent-for-mls-soccer-stadium-300451139.html

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Scottsdale starts on the other side of the Loop 202. Unless that corner by Tempe Marketplace has some really weird things going on (which actually could be the case, that area is a little weird with Tempe Town Lake and the Salt River), that's Tempe. I remember ASU having some issues with that due to the city change backing right up to campus. 

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