ZionEagle Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I'm back with another rebrand! (I just can't give up can I?) This time, I was looking at college logos on the site and come across the atrocity of an identity. You guessed it, the Wofford Terriers caught my eye. It's utterly pathetic that a Division I college can't even manage to have a logo that looks better than your average clip art drawing. So I endeavored to tackle the design challenge before me and update the Terriers. I plan on doing jerseys eventually. To start, I redid the college logo. I used Edmond Sans bold as a base for the font, but I edited it to give the vibe of the original. As for the new logo, I essentially just improved on the anatomy of the terrier. You'll also notice I swapped the colors on the collar. This is my favorite logo of the package. I considered making it the primary, but I'm not really sure. C&C always appreciated! "Winners never quit, and quitters never win." ~Vince Lombardi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysox Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Wow that's a great look! Major upgrade. The bottom lip seems some what stubby and there's a few black details that seem a little unnecessary but it's heading in a good direction @MichaelDanger19 | Dribbble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyeagle Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I don't know why, but something on the dog head logo makes me think cat instead. Maybe the eye is a little too narrow or something in the mouth is throwing it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Cunningham Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 2 hours ago, scottyeagle said: I don't know why, but something on the dog head logo makes me think cat instead. Maybe the eye is a little too narrow or something in the mouth is throwing it off I was thinking the same thing: there's something cat-like about the dog's face. I realize that perception of the image is influenced by the ears too (as they stick up like a cat's), but you've illustrated what a Boston Terrier's ears look like. So it must be something to do with the mouth; fixing that to make it look less feline will then make the ears not appear so feline either. Closing the mouth and/or extending the upper lips down a bit might help de-cat the terrier's face a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionEagle Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 Thanks for the feedback guys 2 hours ago, Ted Cunningham said: I was thinking the same thing: there's something cat-like about the dog's face. I realize that perception of the image is influenced by the ears too (as they stick up like a cat's), but you've illustrated what a Boston Terrier's ears look like. So it must be something to do with the mouth; fixing that to make it look less feline will then make the ears not appear so feline either. Closing the mouth and/or extending the upper lips down a bit might help de-cat the terrier's face a bit? I think it is the mouth, but here's the reference picture I used. As you can see, I tried to make the mouth as similar as possible to the picture. Maybe if I added teeth to the bottom lip it would make it less feline? I'll admit I was having trouble deciding what to do to the mouth. Any ideas? "Winners never quit, and quitters never win." ~Vince Lombardi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEDIEBOLT Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 You should work on presenting your concepts differently. The background is too busy to focus on your work. But I think the primary logo is fine. I don't think the underlines are really needed anymore. Both dog logos aren't bad. I think they could use some more fine tuning. The back legs on the full body logo seem off to me. Maybe some more detail on the left leg as seen in the reference image you posted above? I actually agree that the dog appears somewhat cat like. Maybe try experimenting with a rounder eye shape. Something more similar to the old logo. Also, maybe a visible tongue could help it appear more like a dog? You don't see many cats with a tongue wagging haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefoot Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 You need a more defined snout to stop that cat like appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrosby Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Defining the top jaw, shortening the lower jaw, making the eye-white a bit more round, and giving the ears some forward direction should help get rid of that feline-feeling. https://twitter.com/OutOfThisWC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithisgood Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 On 12/31/2016 at 3:55 PM, ZionEagle said: I'm back with another rebrand! (I just can't give up can I?) This time, I was looking at college logos on the site and come across the atrocity of an identity. You guessed it, the Wofford Terriers caught my eye. It's utterly pathetic that a Division I college can't even manage to have a logo that looks better than your average clip art drawing. So I endeavored to tackle the design challenge before me and update the Terriers. I plan on doing jerseys eventually. To start, I redid the college logo. I used Edmond Sans bold as a base for the font, but I edited it to give the vibe of the original. As for the new logo, I essentially just improved on the anatomy of the terrier. You'll also notice I swapped the colors on the collar. This is my favorite logo of the package. I considered making it the primary, but I'm not really sure. C&C always appreciated! Love the logo set, but can't help feel the updated typeface is more generic than the existing typeface. The block W, rendered in gold-ish hues, smacks strongly of U-Dub. I'd be curious to see an update which retains the varying stroke width of the W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krz Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I agree the last logo should be the primary, I always love when Baylor plays them in football such a competitive game Excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionEagle Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 21 hours ago, JESSEDIEBOLT said: You should work on presenting your concepts differently. The background is too busy to focus on your work. But I think the primary logo is fine. I don't think the underlines are really needed anymore. Both dog logos aren't bad. I think they could use some more fine tuning. The back legs on the full body logo seem off to me. Maybe some more detail on the left leg as seen in the reference image you posted above? I actually agree that the dog appears somewhat cat like. Maybe try experimenting with a rounder eye shape. Something more similar to the old logo. Also, maybe a visible tongue could help it appear more like a dog? You don't see many cats with a tongue wagging haha 16 hours ago, Whitefoot said: You need a more defined snout to stop that cat like appearance. 16 hours ago, mcrosby said: Defining the top jaw, shortening the lower jaw, making the eye-white a bit more round, and giving the ears some forward direction should help get rid of that feline-feeling. I personally thought that the logo was distinctive enough to be associated with a Boston Terrier, however I do agree that changes could be made. Therefore, I present version 2.0! 2 hours ago, keithisgood said: Love the logo set, but can't help feel the updated typeface is more generic than the existing typeface. The block W, rendered in gold-ish hues, smacks strongly of U-Dub. I'd be curious to see an update which retains the varying stroke width of the W. Uh...Really? What can be more generic than the wikipedia font they have now. And forgive me, but I'm not sure what you mean by U-Dub. I know the font probably isn't the most exciting, that's partly my fault because I'm not the best font editor. But I didn't want to give them the standard college block font, so I tried to make it a little different. The varying stroke width is interesting in theory, but I didn't like how it looked when I executed it. 13 minutes ago, KRZYBDGRZ said: I agree the last logo should be the primary, I always love when Baylor plays them in football such a competitive game I was thinking the same thing, but not sure how it would look on a helmet. I thought that maybe a roundel W would be an interesting look for the school. My inspiration was keeping the double gold lines, but I'm not sure I like this one. If you have a better idea let me know. I plan on coming out with football jerseys in the near future "Winners never quit, and quitters never win." ~Vince Lombardi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point1 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I really like the mark. I don't love the tongue (it kinda looks like a peanut). The eyes go a long way towards being more dog like, maybe add a pair of bottom fangs instead of the tongue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjm3114jr Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I think the tongue should be shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyeagle Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 The tongue is way too much. Just rounding the eye should be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEDIEBOLT Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 It's getting better, but the tongue does feel too long. Should be just barely outside his mouth. Right now it looks like it's too big for his mouth lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefoot Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Look back at your reference photo. Look at how the white fur makes a short almost horizontal line from the nose to the center of the eyes defining the top of the snout. Your render dose nothing to address the horizontal part of the snout (yours looks as if there is no snout and the nose meets the bottom of the forehead), thus a cat-like skull structure. The eye change is much better! The tongue is not a good addition. If you feel you need a tongue, keep it visible but inside the mouth (like in your reference photo). I also don't understand the two black triangle shapes at the bottom of the W ?sash? that the dog is wearing on its back. It forms a "M". If you are trying to show a wavy motion in the ?sash?, it is not working since the bottom edge is straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithisgood Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Sorry, should have been more clear. U-Dub is the University of Washington.And now that I've googled the photo, its dissimilar enough from yours to be distinctive. Still not sold on the typeface, but I suppose you can just chalk it up to personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaha32 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Stylistically this is a big upgrade, but getting the anatomy right is important. I pretty much agree with what Whitefoot said above. Your version comes across as a cat, because the forehead runs straight down into the nose, and it is lacking a dog-like snout. I'd bring the nose forward more and add a horizontal ruffle/shadow where the forehead meets the snout between the eyes to give the impression of a brow. How does it look if you try adding a little white to the far eye? As far as the sash draped over the back, right now you have it bending to the right, but try flipping it and having it bend to the left. That should look better based on the perspective. And you're going to have to arch the W a little to match the contours of the sash. You're getting a lot of feedback on this because it has a lot of potential. If you make the necessary adjustments to the anatomy, it'd be a really nice addition to your portfolio. DesignsByHahn.com Behance Dribbble Instragram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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