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Lions New Logo and Uniforms 2017

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1 hour ago, Proc said:

I've had a week to think on the new uniforms.

 

I like them.

 

I wanted to dislike the wordmark - I don't.  I wanted to dislike the WCF tribute to William Clay Ford.  I don't.  I wanted to dislike the font.  I don't.

 

Its a fresh take using the only 2 colors needed - Honolulu Blue and Silver.

 

I really like the blue pants.  I always thought the lions road uniforms lacked something.  I liked the blue pants in the past and this is a nice update to that.

 

I won't give them an A on it seeing as my "A" grade would've been a simple update of either the Barry Sanders or Billy Sims era uniforms - but I will give this a solid B+ and say it's tastefully done and not some overdone nastiness like the Buccaneers or Jaguars.

The main issue with me is the lack of white in the home uniforms, especially with the numbers 

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1 hour ago, OnWis97 said:

I think a lot of traditionalists would have been happy to see the Barry Sanders era with the updated logo.  But most of them are just glad the black's gone.  Everyone else, regardless of how they feel, gets to see more Nike.

 

Additionally, say the Lions went back to the Sanders era...some people would probably call Nike "lazy" for not really doing anything original.  A team would really, really have to want to go back for it to happen.

 

Then again, if they'd done a slightly modified version of the Sims-era set, how many folks in the "Nike=fire" demo would even know the original existed?

 

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46 minutes ago, MGoBlue98 said:

The main issue with me is the lack of white in the home uniforms, especially with the numbers 

 

For me, that's a pretty significant point in its favor. 

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2 hours ago, OnWis97 said:

Cleveland could be the test of whether "nobody will ever go back to an old look" is 100% true.

 

 I would not be totally blown away if the Browns ended up with their traditional uniforms.  It's at least a small part of what everyone clamored for regarding the "Cleveland Deal."  And I think there are a lot of people who think that the Browns should be toned down.  It will be interesting to see.  Will they go all the way back?  Or will they get a closer-to-traditional look with some "Nike" flair in the form of a custom font, serifs, stripes that match the sleeveless template, or some other goofy thing that's just being cooked up in some plucky intern's mind as we speak?

 

*I recall reading facebook comments after the Vikings released their current uniform that they went with a "throwback" look. I don't know whether we should be laughing at those fans or they should be laughing at us.

 

I agree that it wouldn't be shocking to see the Browns go back (or most of the way back) to their old look... but if they redesign in a few years, they would be the first team to switch twice in the Nike era, so that would make them a special case.

 

As for your point about some people thinking the Vikings new uniforms were "throwbacks"...

 

I've told this story on these boards before, but it's been a while so it's probably OK to repeat it. I have a semi-friend (husband of my wife’s best friend) who is also a big Viking fan, and I was talking with him not long after the Viking's new look debuted. He was going on about how he was excited that the Vikings were (I’m quoting here) “going to wear their throwbacks full time now.” I said, no, they’re getting brand new uniforms. He says, yeah, but they’re just new versions of the throwbacks. So, of course, I start to explain just a few of the numerous ways in which these new uniforms are nothing like the throwbacks. I’m not even done talking before I start to get the here-we-go-again eye roll from him. And then he says (quote again) “yeah, they’re not exact, I guess, but, you know… plain white numbers, stripes on the sleeves… they're basically the throwbacks, right?”

 

 

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6 minutes ago, oldschoolvikings said:

I've told this story on these boards before, but it's been a while so it's probably OK to repeat it. I have a semi-friend (husband of my wife’s best friend) who is also a big Viking fan, and I was talking with him not long after the Viking's new look debuted. He was going on about how he was excited that the Vikings were (I’m quoting here) “going to wear their throwbacks full time now.” I said, no, they’re getting brand new uniforms. He says, yeah, but they’re just new versions of the throwbacks. So, of course, I start to explain just a few of the numerous ways in which these new uniforms are nothing like the throwbacks. I’m not even done talking before I start to get the here-we-go-again eye roll from him. And then he says (quote again) “yeah, they’re not exact, I guess, but, you know… plain white numbers, stripes on the sleeves… they're basically the throwbacks, right?”

 

 

That's when we know that we're the weirdos.  Assuming this guy is not too far off of your age group, he remembers at lest the 1980s.  And if he's a big Viking fan, I'd frankly expect him to at least better-acknowledge the difference along with the "old school" feel or something.  Imagine how much, say, Steeler fans pick up on this with the Vikings.  Some of them may legitimately believe they adopted those throwbacks full-time

 

But it's not like we're talking about something like the updated Target Field Twins wordmark (which I doubt most people still even know changed) or that nice little Viking logo update (even more subtle) from a few years ago.  So I do remain surprised.

 

I think among normal fans (i.e., not us), their are still tiers...I know some people that have feelings on uniform changes and would never suggest that the Vikes are in throwbacks.  My friend who is more into uniforms than most (but still would never come here to talk about socks) said he liked the new uniforms because it reminded him of the old days when they were "mostly purple and white."  But he gets that it's not a throwback.  But there are other fans who essentially know the team colors and uniforms are just way off the radar.  I don't talk uniforms with them because they think I'm a kook when I do.  So, since I don't, I sometimes wonder what (or whether) they think of recent trends.  Why there are several possible uniforms the Twins may be wearing when they arrive at Target Field.  Do they just not even think about it when the see the red alt or the Memorial Day garb?  I can barely put myself in their shoes.  It's a huge chunk of what I notice during down time.

 

I apologize for the Digression.  These Lion uniforms are nice but Nike kept them from ideal.

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1 hour ago, Sleeper66 said:

 

Then again, if they'd done a slightly modified version of the Sims-era set, how many folks in the "Nike=fire" demo would even know the original existed?

 

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What is going on with those sleeve stripes? its like they were trying to decide between two different sets of stripes and just said :censored: it, we will go with both.

 

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7 minutes ago, dmhtfld said:

What is going on with those sleeve stripes? its like they were trying to decide between two different sets of stripes and just said :censored: it, we will go with both.

 

 

???

 

They're just silver Northwestern stripes with white borders on each stripe.  The bottoms just got cut off by some players.

 

They're supposed to look like this.

 

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4 minutes ago, dmhtfld said:

What is going on with those sleeve stripes? its like they were trying to decide between two different sets of stripes and just said :censored: it, we will go with both.

 

 

They are regular Northwestern stripes, outlined in white, but the bottom stripes have been chopped off. (posted 0.5 seconds after leopard88).

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Nevermind my eyes were :censored:ing with me. I thought the grey stripe at the top was blue.

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19 hours ago, Gupti said:

Anyone else think it's safe to say that changing back to a full-on copy of an old uniform is simply considered out of the question at this point?

 

While there is a precedent for returning to vintage looks (teams like the Jets, Giants, and 49ers come to mind), those happened earlier in the century (2009 being the latest) BEFORE the height of the era of Twitter, Instagram and rapid image sharing in general. This isn't the 70's where you didn't know about knew uniforms until they hit the field week one and you usually wouldn't care to tell the difference anyway. Uniform unveilings are a huge deal now for people who browse sports news, and if your team's new duds aren't super hot [fire emojis], then your team falls behind in the marketing game.

 

It doesn't make sense from that standpoint to change out your current set for "old," "boring," "been-there/seen-that" unis. The only people who'd be truly satisfied to see an old set make a comeback are we freaks here and a select group of heady loyal fans. Be mindful that there were even some people in the social media-sphere who were DISAPPOINTED that the Vikings changed away from their disgusting old set into their beautiful new one.

 

Uni game is a social media marketing competition between these teams and the only way to keep up is to reveal 21st century uniforms that "sleek and modern," but also have some "vintage flair," because who doesn't just love a little bit of that? Old sets will just stay throwbacks to sell more jerseys.

Not totally out of question, because the Bills did pretty much that during the Twitter era.

 

I'd imagine it would be extremely rare though; good point.

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I don't see why the Lions can't just modernize their old uniforms. Similar to what the Jays did back in 2012. Take the same template, but update the logo, font, etc. I guess the Lions already did this to a certain extent, though.

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11 hours ago, WavePunter said:

The Browns don't fit with the other 3 here.. They were currently wearing their classic set when they decided to redesign.. If they had gone back to it, there would've been no change, since they've worn essentially the same design for their entire existence.. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they do go back to that look (or at least something similar) as soon as the 5 years is up

 

The Browns' previous set was almost identical, yes. They could have improved the look by lightening the brown, thinning out the stripes on the white pants, eliminating the brown pants, and wearing only striped socks. However, their look was certainly passable. The only thing they really needed to do with come up with an actual primary logo. Of course, they messed literally everything up, but still failed to make a primary logo.

 

But I agree. They'll probably come closest of any Nike team to going back completely to the classic look. But there will, of course, be a handful of Nike flourishes.

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10 hours ago, TheOldRoman said:

 

The Browns' previous set was almost identical, yes. They could have improved the look by lightening the brown, thinning out the stripes on the white pants, eliminating the brown pants, and wearing only striped socks. However, their look was certainly passable. The only thing they really needed to do with come up with an actual primary logo. Of course, they messed literally everything up, but still failed to make a primary logo.

 

But I agree. They'll probably come closest of any Nike team to going back completely to the classic look. But there will, of course, be a handful of Nike flourishes.

I'd even suggest they didn't need to eliminate the brown pants if they would just put stripes on them.. And I'll agree that they absolutely need a primary logo.. While I prefer the helmet remain logoless, they need something other than a solid orange helmet as a logo

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I don't know why the Browns can't just have a primary logo and not use it on their helmets. Like, it doesn't seem that hard. Maybe at some point it was traditional to use a helmet logo, but nowadays, it's just dumb. It's hilarious when sports networks just throw up an orange-brown rectangle as the "logo."

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16 hours ago, WavePunter said:

I'd even suggest they didn't need to eliminate the brown pants if they would just put stripes on them.. And I'll agree that they absolutely need a primary logo.. While I prefer the helmet remain logoless, they need something other than a solid orange helmet as a logo

 

Striped brown pants would have looked good, provided they were only worn with the white jerseys and striped white socks. However, it wasn't right for the Browns. But yes, I didn't want them touching the helmet (other than going back to the superior white facemask). Just come up with anything that's not a helmet or a B inside a football.

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How can people complain about how bad the Lions sleeve stripes are when the Steelers basically have the same thing and nothing is said?

 

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13 minutes ago, DNAsports said:

How can people complain about how bad the Lions sleeve stripes are when the Steelers basically have the same thing and nothing is said?

 

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THIS. It pains me to even watch a Steelers game because most of the players play with less than half of the original striping on their jerseys because of all the modification. 

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4 hours ago, DNAsports said:

How can people complain about how bad the Lions sleeve stripes are when the Steelers basically have the same thing and nothing is said?

 

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It is said. A lot.

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9 minutes ago, scraw28 said:

Iowa is no problem 

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Does Nike not want their swoosh lost in the striping? There is literally no other reason to keep the Steelers striping like it is. Right up there with retail 9ers jerseys mimicking the adjusted stripes, which makes no sense in its own right.

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