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Cleveland Browns re-do in the works for 2020?

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45 minutes ago, pscf3 said:

 

And now a twitter account with 95k followers is spreading the obviously fake white helmet rumors 🤦‍♂️

 

This is just going to get worse ... and we still have two years until 2020.

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We already have too many teams with white helmets that would look better with colored lids (Charger, Jets, possibly Cardinals and Titans), let's not add to it. 

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7 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

We already have too many teams with white helmets that would look better with colored lids (Charger, Jets, possibly Cardinals and Titans), let's not add to it. 

 

Definitely agree on the Chargers and Jets. Both teams would look infinitely better with non-white helmets. Disagree on the Cardinals and Titans. Haven't those teams traditionally always had white helmets? 

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Just now, DeFrank said:

 

Definitely agree on the Chargers and Jets. Both teams would look infinitely better with non-white helmets. Disagree on the Cardinals and Titans. Haven't those teams traditionally always had white helmets? 

All 4 of them have traditionally white helmets, so I'm not sure how you agree with the first two based on the second two.

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1 minute ago, DeFrank said:

 

Definitely agree on the Chargers and Jets. Both teams would look infinitely better with non-white helmets. Disagree on the Cardinals and Titans. Haven't those teams traditionally always had white helmets? 

If you went by their time as the Oilers, the Titans had light blue helmets as well.

 

1 minute ago, Sec19Row53 said:

All 4 of them have traditionally white helmets, so I'm not sure how you agree with the first two based on the second two.

Traditionally the Jets and Chargers have had their best success, not counting Super Bowl III, in colored helmets. The Cardinals have worn white forever and a change would be glaring, but I think it would be an improvement even if their fans may initially cringe. 

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I really want a Browns that basically looks like this.

 

The Browns can't have a white helmet, because the helmet IS their brand.  No matter how many times they try to shoehorn a wordmark, it's simply not going to work.  The Browns have the helmet, the bulldog, and the elf.  That's fine.  It's unique, it's weird, it's Cleveland.


Orange, Brown, White.  Flat, matte, simple, clean.

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27 minutes ago, Sec19Row53 said:

All 4 of them have traditionally white helmets, so I'm not sure how you agree with the first two based on the second two.

 

"Traditionally have always" was the phrased I used. I guess what I meant was that they've basically had white helmets uninterrupted for several decades, rather than the Jets and Chargers, who went from white to navy/green for a couple decades in the 80s-00s.

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15 minutes ago, CS85 said:

I really want a Browns that basically looks like this.

 

The Browns can't have a white helmet, because the helmet IS their brand.  No matter how many times they try to shoehorn a wordmark, it's simply not going to work.  The Browns have the helmet, the bulldog, and the elf.  That's fine.  It's unique, it's weird, it's Cleveland.


Orange, Brown, White.  Flat, matte, simple, clean.

 

So Florida Gators, just with brown instead of blue?

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1 hour ago, MJWalker45 said:

If you went by their time as the Oilers, the Titans had light blue helmets as well.

 

Traditionally the Jets and Chargers have had their best success, not counting Super Bowl III, in colored helmets. The Cardinals have worn white forever and a change would be glaring, but I think it would be an improvement even if their fans may initially cringe. 

Nope the Jets have definitely had more success in white helmets. They have been to 3 AFC Titles in white lids and only 1 in green.

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1 hour ago, MJWalker45 said:

Traditionally the Jets and Chargers have had their best success, not counting Super Bowl III, in colored helmets.

 

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

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2 minutes ago, Gothamite said:

 

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

Shot in the dark here, but I thought it was terrible.

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While I don't think they'll switch to a White helmet, both Oregon State and Oklahoma State have had some great looks with the White lid and Orange/Black color scheme.  (boo those truncated stripes):


This, with full helmet & pant stripes, and 1-color block numbers and matching sleeve stripes (basically, back to their original unis, but matching up the stripes) would indeed work.  
 

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White on White is beautiful:

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White over Dark:

 

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White over Orange:

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In my opinion, these are still king:

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The smartest thing for Nike, the NFL and the Browns to do is involve Cleveland fans, coaches and players in the process. Don't let them design anything obviously. But do focus groups and gauge reactions before everything is official. If they cared enough to do it the first time, they wouldn't be in this mess. 

 

Imagine if they did something dumb like white helmets and we have to wait 5 years to see it fixed again? or forcing us to watch all white uniforms for another 5 years.

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4 minutes ago, VDizzle12 said:

The smartest thing for Nike, the NFL and the Browns to do is involve Cleveland fans, coaches and players in the process. Don't let them design anything obviously. But do focus groups and gauge reactions before everything is official. If they cared enough to do it the first time, they wouldn't be in this mess. 

 

Imagine if they did something dumb like white helmets and we have to wait 5 years to see it fixed again? or forcing us to watch all white uniforms for another 5 years.

 

Well, what if players want white helmets, and the coaches don't give a crap? Then what? 

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Never never never ask the players.  Never. Just look at CFB, involving the players in the uniforms ends in a train wreck every time.

 

 

I know they're the ones who are going to wear them, but that doesn't mean their aesthetic judgements are worth a crap. When I have a plumber in to fix the toilet, I don't ask him what color I should paint the bathroom walls.

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30 minutes ago, VDizzle12 said:

The smartest thing for Nike, the NFL and the Browns to do is involve Cleveland fans, coaches and players in the process. Don't let them design anything obviously. But do focus groups and gauge reactions before everything is official. If they cared enough to do it the first time, they wouldn't be in this mess. 

 

Imagine if they did something dumb like white helmets and we have to wait 5 years to see it fixed again? or forcing us to watch all white uniforms for another 5 years.

 

Asking the players lead to the 49ers wearing all black with red numbers. 

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1 hour ago, Volt said:

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This is the exact look they should have in 2020, because they never should've changed it from this in the first place.  Period.

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54 minutes ago, WSU151 said:

 

Well, what if players want white helmets, and the coaches don't give a crap? Then what? 

 

51 minutes ago, oldschoolvikings said:

Never never never ask the players.  Never. Just look at CFB, involving the players in the uniforms ends in a train wreck every time.

 

 

I know they're the ones who are going to wear them, but that doesn't mean their aesthetic judgements are worth a crap. When I have a plumber in to fix the toilet, I don't ask him what color I should paint the bathroom walls.

 

29 minutes ago, PaleVermilion81 said:

 

Asking the players lead to the 49ers wearing all black with red numbers. 

 

I should have been more specific. I definitely don't think the players and coaches should design the uniforms. I was thinking of more practical reasons why the players/coaches would be opposed to uniform designs. Like the current guys hating the brown jerseys, because they can't read the orange numbers. A problem that never would have happened if they did proper research in the beginning. The NFL has such strict rules, they need to get it right this time.

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7 minutes ago, Mac the Knife said:

 

This is the exact look they should have in 2020, because they never should've changed it from this in the first place.  Period.

The only thing I would change is to get rid of the chest word marks. IMO most, if not all chest word marks should be removed from jerseys.

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