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4 hours ago, AstroBull21 said:

So out of the goalies Vegas can take, is Fleury a lock? 

I'd say a lock to get taken, but they may see him as trade bait. His stock is fairly high right now.

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Elliotte Friedman is reporting that Marian Hossa may have played his final game in the NHL, due to the Blackhawks' Hossa's severe and unusual allergy to cap recapture hockey equipment.

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Guy was virtually an indestructible cyborg for all these years and it all ends because of a rash. You really never do see the one with your name on it, huh.

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4 hours ago, Flames1fan said:

Michal Neuvirth, better pick. not to old

Sabres retread, or three-time Cup winner who just won 9 games in the playoffs? Decisions, decisions...

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5 hours ago, Sodboy13 said:

Elliotte Friedman is reporting that Marian Hossa may have played his final game in the NHL, due to the Blackhawks' Hossa's severe and unusual allergy to cap recapture hockey equipment.

Christ on a cracker... is that the best story they could come up with? He is literally allergic to hockey?!?

 

@the admiral better never complain about the Coyotes' cap circumvention again.

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The allergy/rash has retired players before, if you read the S-T article.  

Hossa wouldn’t be the first player to retire early because of such an allergy. “The Gunk,” as it was known in the 1970s and 1980s, affected many players, and drove former Hawks and North Stars defenseman Tom Reid out of the game in 1978.

 


 

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http://www.lockerroomdoctor.com/the-gunk-a-virulent-oozing-rash/

 

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It was ten years later before doctors came up with anything resembling an answer to the gunk mystery — too late for Reid’s career. In 1988, a member of the Edmonton Oilers’ medical staff helped identify one of the causes: the use of formaldehyde in the manufacture of equipment as a way of preventing mildew and maintaining colour.

“Once we figured out that was the problem, we had a good, quick solution to it,” Dr. Don Groot said in 2000. This (surprisingly specific) one: the addition of a cup of powdered milk to the second rinse cycle of a wash, he said, seemed to do away with both the formaldehyde and the gunk it bred.

 

 

This is so Hockey: "eh, just put some powdered milk in the washing machine, that makes the formaldehyde stop giving you suppurating rashes, but it has to be the second rinse cycle."

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Oh, and for anyone bitching that the Hawks are getting away with something, all they're getting away with is no longer having their best defensive forward and perennial on their team, a guy whose backchecking, scoring, and general tenacity will have him in the Hall of Fame in three years. Ooh, what a heist! We "get" to replace an irreplaceable player. Everything's coming up Blackhawks now that our third-best forward can't play here anymore.

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4 minutes ago, the admiral said:

Oh, and for anyone bitching that the Hawks are getting away with something, all they're getting away with is no longer having their best defensive forward and perennial on their team, a guy whose backchecking, scoring, and general tenacity will have him in the Hall of Fame in three years. Ooh, what a heist! We "get" to replace an irreplaceable player. Everything's coming up Blackhawks now that our third-best forward can't play here anymore.

The Hawks got to pay him an unsustainable salary for the years that he did play, and now the cap hit and (admittedly bogus) penalties disappear because they can call this an injury that will never go away. His willingness to play through it seems to be proportional to the 75% pay cut he was going to take this year (down 87% from what he made two years ago).

 

This is very strange, and not only in ways that make Chicago look bad. He hasn't played hockey in two months... why did this come out now? It looks bad that it's right before they need cap space to sign free agents and make trades at the draft, but (in Chicago's defense) wouldn't Stan Bowman have liked to protect any other forward from Vegas? Hossa didn't know literally five days ago?

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13 minutes ago, the admiral said:

Oh, and for anyone bitching that the Hawks are getting away with something, all they're getting away with is no longer having their best defensive forward and perennial on their team, a guy whose backchecking, scoring, and general tenacity will have him in the Hall of Fame in three years. Ooh, what a heist! We "get" to replace an irreplaceable player. Everything's coming up Blackhawks now that our third-best forward can't play here anymore.

 

2 minutes ago, Cosmic said:

The Hawks got to pay him an unsustainable salary for the years that he did play, and now the cap hit and (admittedly bogus) penalties disappear because they can call this an injury that will never go away. His willingness to play through it seems to be proportional to the 75% pay cut he was going to take this year (down 87% from what he made two years ago).

 

This is very strange, and not only in ways that make Chicago look bad. He hasn't played hockey in two months... why did this come out now? It looks bad that it's right before they need cap space to sign free agents and make trades at the draft, but (in Chicago's defense) wouldn't Stan Bowman have liked to protect any other forward from Vegas? Hossa didn't know literally five days ago?

 

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It sounds like reporters knew all about it for months but sat on it to be respectful, in grand Chicago Blackhawks beat writer tradition.

 

idk, it's not by any means like he had become this albatross who hurt the Hawks just by continuing to exist, really quite the opposite, so it just seems kind of bitchy to be like "the Hawks should not have him and then also be punished for not having him!" Again, third-best forward is gone for nothing, you want the Hawks to suffer, you're lookin' at it. 

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7 minutes ago, Cosmic said:

The Hawks got to pay him an unsustainable salary for the years that he did play, and now the cap hit and (admittedly bogus) penalties disappear because they can call this an injury that will never go away. His willingness to play through it seems to be proportional to the 75% pay cut he was going to take this year (down 87% from what he made two years ago).

 

This is very strange, and not only in ways that make Chicago look bad. He hasn't played hockey in two months... why did this come out now? It looks bad that it's right before they need cap space to sign free agents and make trades at the draft, but (in Chicago's defense) wouldn't Stan Bowman have liked to protect any other forward from Vegas? Hossa didn't know literally five days ago?

This isn't the first time that a player has ended their career on LTIR so stop acting like the league is bending the rules just to help the Hawks. Besides, they can't put him on LTIR until the season starts so they still have to deal with his cap hit to be cap compliant for the start of the season. 

 

Also, Hossa had a NMC so he had to be protected. 

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40 minutes ago, CRichardson said:

This isn't the first time that a player has ended their career on LTIR so stop acting like the league is bending the rules just to help the Hawks. Besides, they can't put him on LTIR until the season starts so they still have to deal with his cap hit to be cap compliant for the start of the season. 

 

Also, Hossa had a NMC so he had to be protected. 

Players with a NMC can be exposed if they waive it; Fleury did it.

 

It's dumb no matter who does it, but you have @the admiral going on about imaginary ways he figures Vegas might sidestep the cap when they don't even have any NHL players yet. Meanwhile, the Blackhawks seem to have the same luck with the cap that the Penguins have getting calls in the playoffs.

 

He was great defensively and he scored a lot of goals last year, but he's going to turn 39 in the middle of next season. It's not like he was cut down in his prime.

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"He's only averaging .616 pts/gm instead of 1.22, nbd"

 

EDIT: while this implies that Hossa is indeed half the player he once was, a 100-point pace in 2007 is waywaywaywaywaaaaaaaaaay closer to a 50-point pace in dead-puck-II 2017 than it has any right to be

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It's just very convenient that without Hossa playing until he's 43 or this rash that nobody's heard of in 30 years, the Blackhawks would have to pay a cap penalty.

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IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT A PLAYER HAS BEEN STASHED ON LTIR! THIS IS NOT A RULE BEING BENT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE BLACKHAWKS!

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1 minute ago, CRichardson said:

IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT A PLAYER HAS BEEN STASHED ON LTIR! THIS IS NOT A RULE BEING BENT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE BLACKHAWKS!

It seems to be the first time everyone on this board is okay with it. It's dumb, and I'm saying it's dumb. It was dumb for the Coyotes to buy their way to the floor with Pronger, and it was dumb to give teams "freebie" buyouts.

 

He was still really good, but not shocking that a 38YO would "retire" after making 94% of his contract's money in 66% of the time.

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The Blackhawks were the only team over the new $75 million cap. Now they're not.

 

It just seems so awfully convenient for Chicago.

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