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Just now, dfwabel said:

You are high thinking that this year's #1 overall and another Nets 1st rounder will close the gap between these two squads.

 

No, time and experience will do that for us.

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2 minutes ago, dfwabel said:

You are high thinking that this year's #1 overall and another Nets 1st rounder will close the gap between these two squads.

 

The Celtics could have traded for Paul George AND Jimmy Butler and it wouldn't matter.

 

Basically, the NBA might as well stand for National Bron Association.

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The Bill Simmons podcast has become unlistenable with Celtics talk. One day Lonzo is great, the next he's garbage because he's going to LA. One day Isaiah is the next Iverson, the next he's trash. One day the 1 seed matters, the next day the reason season is 2020-21.

 

The Celtics are like the self-actualized Sixers and it still isn't enough.

1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags

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3 minutes ago, SabresRule7361 said:

To think these Celtics actually beat Golden State at Oracle.

 

If you get hot from three anything can happen.

1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags

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Mental note: Don't boo LeBron.

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1 hour ago, DG_Now said:

The Bill Simmons podcast has become unlistenable with Celtics talk. One day Lonzo is great, the next he's garbage because he's going to LA. One day Isaiah is the next Iverson, the next he's trash. One day the 1 seed matters, the next day the reason season is 2020-21.

 

The Celtics are like the self-actualized Sixers and it still isn't enough.

 

Which, for me, at least, makes the ass-beatings the Cavs have put on the Celtics in the first two games even more enjoyable. 

 

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Good lord. These have to be the worst playoffs I've ever seen in any sport. Both conference finals have had the leading team in game 2 up by FORTY points in the 4th. If we don't have two 12-0 teams, I'd be pretty surprised. That tells me two things: 

 


1) These two teams are insanely good, and despite this being matchup #3, I cannot wait to see it. 
2) This is probably the worst the NBA has EVER been in terms of talent diversity. Like, if this league were a country, it'd be Russia. And that's REALLY saying something considering the lopsided history of this league. That probably needs to be fixed (or it could just be a crazy coincidence that these two teams went super saiyan at the right time while the rest of the league was particularly down). 

 

This is either going to be the most insane finals we've ever seen, or someone is gonna go nuclear and sweep. 

 

 

 

Also, and this is kinda me just thinking out loud right now, but if you're a big free agent who's REALLY looking to win, is there any reason to sign with anyone who's not Golden State or Cleveland right now? I almost have a feeling this whole two headed superteam monster could actually get even WORSE in the upcoming years. If you REALLY want a ring (that being the motivating factor above the extra cash as these guys are already multi millionaires and cash is always gonna be king) why in the world would you ever even consider signing elsewhere? 

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She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.)
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8 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

 

 

Also, and this is kinda me just thinking out loud right now, but if you're a big free agent who's REALLY looking to win, is there any reason to sign with anyone who's not Golden State or Cleveland right now? I almost have a feeling this whole two headed superteam monster could actually get even WORSE in the upcoming years. If you REALLY want a ring (that being the motivating factor above the extra cash as these guys are already multi millionaires and cash is always gonna be king) why in the world would you ever even consider signing elsewhere? 

There's likely no room.

 

The luxury tax and repeater penalty greatly limit those. The mid-level is likely already used on a current roster spot, so to get onto the team as UFA, one may need to now take a minimum deal and the mid-level is lower due to being over the cap.

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I don't know the NBA cap system all that well, so forgive my ignorance, but I feel like there has to be some workaround, no? Like, A guy could legitimately take the minimum or work a sign and trade to end up with one of those two? Maybe? I'm hearing a lot of talk about Melo going to the Cavs next year and it sounds it'd take some serious financial bamboozling and expiring contract'ing to get there, but it's still decently heavy talk, so... 

 

Again, just thinking out loud. 

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On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said:
She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.)
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2 minutes ago, SabresRule7361 said:

Sonehow the freaking Pacers were a Myles Turner shot and a 2nd half disaster from a 2-2 series with Cleveland

If things were different they'd be different? YA DON'T SAY!

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28 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

I don't know the NBA cap system all that well, so forgive my ignorance, but I feel like there has to be some workaround, no? Like, A guy could legitimately take the minimum or work a sign and trade to end up with one of those tow? Maybe? I'm hearing a lot of talk about Melo going to the Cavs next year and it sounds it'd take some bamboozling to get there, but it's still decently heavy talk, so... 

There is a sliding scale of a minimum salary based on years in the NBA, but it can occur.

 

In the summer of 2015, David West opted out of his $12.9M player option with the Pacers to sign a minimum deal with the Spurs.  It was for two years, with a player option on the second. He again declined the player option to sign with the Warriors for essential the same money.

 

Granted, West was not in his earning prime when he did this, he was 34, but taking less $$$ so early in your career is not that wise if you get injured.

 

As for sign & trade, the salaries exchanged have to somewhat balance out plus future draft picks would need to be involved. It'd likely be rejected as CP3 to LAL was.

 

NOTE: Due to having eight years of service, Steph Curry is a Tier 1 unrestricted Free Agent this summer.  So in theory, he could receive 35% of the cap.  He may sign for less, but for how much less since he took less money when he extended his rookie deal?

Then next summer, Durant's contract come back up.

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39 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

Good lord. These have to be the worst playoffs I've ever seen in any sport. Both conference finals have had the leading team in game 2 up by FORTY points in the 4th. If we don't have two 12-0 teams, I'd be pretty surprised. That tells me two things: 

 


1) These two teams are insanely good, and despite this being matchup #3, I cannot wait to see it. 
2) This is probably the worst the NBA has EVER been in terms of talent diversity. Like, if this league were a country, it'd be Russia. And that's REALLY saying something considering the lopsided history of this league. That probably needs to be fixed (or it could just be a crazy coincidence that these two teams went super saiyan at the right time while the rest of the league was particularly down). 

 

This is either going to be the most insane finals we've ever seen, or someone is gonna go nuclear and sweep. 

 

 

 

Also, and this is kinda me just thinking out loud right now, but if you're a big free agent who's REALLY looking to win, is there any reason to sign with anyone who's not Golden State or Cleveland right now? I almost have a feeling this whole two headed superteam monster could actually get even WORSE in the upcoming years. If you REALLY want a ring (that being the motivating factor above the extra cash as these guys are already multi millionaires and cash is always gonna be king) why in the world would you ever even consider signing elsewhere? 

 

And we thought Sharks 7, Oilers 0 was lopsided 

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27 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

I don't know the NBA cap system all that well, so forgive my ignorance, but I feel like there has to be some workaround, no? Like, A guy could legitimately take the minimum or work a sign and trade to end up with one of those two? Maybe? I'm hearing a lot of talk about Melo going to the Cavs next year and it sounds it'd take some serious financial bamboozling and expiring contract'ing to get there, but it's still decently heavy talk, so... 

 

Again, just thinking out loud. 

Maybe the NBA would be better off if there were no free agency, or severely restrict player movement.

 

It goes against my "always side with the labor" stance, but something drastic needs to happen for the NBA to really have parity and make things more interesting.  Give each team the same amount to pay their players (for example, $90 million) and the team can divide that up however they choose, but all $90 million has to be dished out to the players.  Expand the rosters to 18 so you have a deep-enough pool, etc.

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