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The Lakers had to pick Lonzo, especially after trading Russell. He should make the Lakers better.

 

But we aren't making the playoffs this upcoming year, despite Lavar's declaration. If Lonzo can actually lead this team to the playoffs in his first season, then the Lakers would have the steal of the draft.

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6 minutes ago, Rockstar Matt said:

The Lakers had to pick Lonzo, especially after trading Russell. He should make the Lakers better.

 

But we aren't making the playoffs this upcoming year, despite Lavar's declaration. If Lonzo can actually lead this team to the playoffs in his first season, then the Lakers would have the steal of the draft.

 

Lonzo is going to be awesome and I bet his dad fades away. Even tonight they weren't really indulging him much.

 

Who is this woman playing Roy Firestone? No one cares about that stuff.

 

Ooh....bad move Phoenix. Jackson asked for a damn visor. This is where he learns about the reality of NBA merchandising.

1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags

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And think about this for a second. The reason Butler didn't end up in Cleveland is because the Bulls looked at Love as a centerpiece of a deal and were like, nah, fam. We good. That must make the T Wolves feel even better. 

 

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6 minutes ago, DG_Now said:

 

Lonzo is going to be awesome and I bet his dad fades away. Even tonight they weren't really indulging him much.

 

Who is this woman playing Roy Firestone? No one cares about that stuff.

 

Ooh....bad move Phoenix. Jackson asked for a damn visor. This is where he learns about the reality of NBA merchandising.

If you've got NBA TV, they're live at Barclay's too, but they don't go to the stage, the green room, or have the useless interview.

 

Smitty and Kenny the Jet are onsite with Seth Davis and Trey Kerby.

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NBATV is $10/month I can't justify. Maybe next year for the playoffs.

 

It'll be interesting to see what Indy gets for George. Love seemed like good value, considering he's also a good player and locked up for a few years. You'd hate to see Indy overplay their hand and get stuck trading George for peanuts. Someone's going to get desperate.

 

Boston not landing Butler is the clearest indication they're playing for 18/19.

1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags

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28 minutes ago, DG_Now said:

Butler, KAT and Wiggins could be really awesome but I can't imagine Butler wants to be playing in Minnesota.

 

 

 

So the wolves make a trade for a good player that could make them pretty awesome, but you're saying he wouldn't want to play there. So presumably he'll be miserable and either force a trade or leave asap. 

 

You just argued for the process. You can make trades to improve yourself but unless you're one of "those teams" it doesn't matter. 

 

What's Minnesota supposed to do? Any good player they trade for won't want any part of it, they can't sign any awesome FAs, and their draft picks are in the 7 range, which is essentially the 6th round of the NFL draft. 

 

Im not trolling when I say that all of you guys are making a case for a process whether you realize it or not. 

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The starting five in Minnesota should be quite a force. Of course they have no bench and Rubio just cannot score consistently, but at least they have someone to pair KAT with on the offensive end.

 

The Lakers won't compete this year but will next year with the LeBron SuperFriends v.3.

 

I sure hope Ainge knows what he's doing. Tatum at third makes sense offensively; he'll fit right in with Brown and Horford. But it just feels like they could have made a move somewhere...though I'm not exactly sure what chips would have been on the table. Hopefully we reap ripe fruit for the 2019 season.

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5 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

So the wolves make a trade for a good player that could make them pretty awesome, but you're saying he wouldn't want to play there. So presumably he'll be miserable and either force a trade or leave asap. 

 

You just argued for the process. You can make trades to improve yourself but unless you're one of "those teams" it doesn't matter. 

 

What's Minnesota supposed to do? Any good player they trade for won't want any part of it, they can't sign any awesome FAs, and their draft picks are in the 7 range, which is essentially the 6th round of the NFL draft. 

 

Im not trolling when I say that all of you guys are making a case for a process whether you realize it or not. 

 

If the process involves drafting three centers in a row, two of them broken, then no, I'm not arguing for that.

 

Earlier this week, Butler had the potential of playing for one of the two best teams in the east. Now he's playing on the at-best 5th team in the west for a coach who's going to take years off his career.

 

The process assumes there's a one-size-fits-all approach to team management and, again, that's facile. You can't just lose and hope you strike it rich in the lottery. You need something (like player development or vets) to fall back on.

 

The Sixers might win 50 games this season and 65 the next. This might all be validated. I just don't think it will be.

 

EDIT: Risky move for the Knicks to draft another Frenchman.

1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

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The Wolves got Butler and the 16th pick?

 

Jesus Chicago. Sorry Bulls fans. That's terrible.

 

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Also terrible? The Ringer dorks:

 

 

I don't need to see those guys.

1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

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12 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

So the wolves make a trade for a good player that could make them pretty awesome, but you're saying he wouldn't want to play there. So presumably he'll be miserable and either force a trade or leave asap. 

 

You just argued for the process. You can make trades to improve yourself but unless you're one of "those teams" it doesn't matter. 

 

What's Minnesota supposed to do? Any good player they trade for won't want any part of it, they can't sign any awesome FAs, and their draft picks are in the 7 range, which is essentially the 6th round of the NFL draft. 

 

Im not trolling when I say that all of you guys are making a case for a process whether you realize it or not. 

What do the sixers have to show from "the process". The worst record in NBA history. The worst 3 year stretch of any team in NBA history. Joel embid, and maybe markel faulks if he's as good as advertised. Theyll be a fringe playoff team this year at best. That is honestly a :censored:tt return for literally giving the middle finger to your fanbase for 3-4 years of futility. 

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Why are you so upset about the Sixers' process? They should be good this year, assuming everyone stays healthy. Simmons, Fultz, Embiid is a nice young trio to build around. Embiid looks like a generational center, and is certainly the NBA's most entertaining personalty, plus the Sixers improved by 18 games last season despite Simmons not playing a second. 

 

They netted 3 potentially really good players in this "process". That's a positive.

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Chris Paul should seriously look at Minnesota.

 

Hear me out, MIN trades for Jimmy Butler and on Tuesday they released Pekovic. Pekovic was making $11.6M and they'll get some cap relief as it looks career ending, so they still may have over $25M. Jordan Hill's $4M isn't guaranteed until next Friday and Shabazz Muhammad is RFA with a $7.5M cap hold.

 

With this roster and with the ability to free up more money, why not make a run at him? They're much younger and athletic than both the Spurs and Rockets.

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13 minutes ago, dont care said:

What do the sixers have to show from "the process". The worst record in NBA history. The worst 3 year stretch of any team in NBA history. Joel embid, and maybe markel faulks if he's as good as advertised. Theyll be a fringe playoff team this year at best. That is honestly a :censored:tt return for literally giving the middle finger to your fanbase for 3-4 years of futility. 

 

That's a pretty short sighted take.  It's fair to say that they're now in "develop and win" mode, with no more incentive to tank.  I don't understand the salary cap or how free agency works with sign-and-trades and other bull :censored: like that, so I don't know if this is the year they bring in vets to "teach them how to win" (whatever that used to mean), but it's fair to say that this year is for them to gel and get used to the NBA style of play, and then next year they add a few FAs (and they still could have the #1 overall pick again!) and hope Lebron breaks his femur and legitimately compete.

 

It could all backfire.  It could turn into the biggest dumpster fire ever.  Or not.  It's simply not possible to say now.

 

As for drafting three big guys in a row - the only think I can think of is that he never intended to have them all at the same time, and planned to swap one to a desperate team in exchange for more than his value in picks.  That obviously didn't work.

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29 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

That's a pretty short sighted take.  It's fair to say that they're now in "develop and win" mode, with no more incentive to tank.  I don't understand the salary cap or how free agency works with sign-and-trades and other bull :censored: like that, so I don't know if this is the year they bring in vets to "teach them how to win" (whatever that used to mean), but it's fair to say that this year is for them to gel and get used to the NBA style of play, and then next year they add a few FAs (and they still could have the #1 overall pick again!) and hope Lebron breaks his femur and legitimately compete.

 

It could all backfire.  It could turn into the biggest dumpster fire ever.  Or not.  It's simply not possible to say now.

 

As for drafting three big guys in a row - the only think I can think of is that he never intended to have them all at the same time, and planned to swap one to a desperate team in exchange for more than his value in picks.  That obviously didn't work.

 

So the bolded part is decidedly not the process. The process is to tank until you're absolutely sure you have generational talent, and then all of a sudden you win. Player development, smart trades, and complementary FA pickups were beyond Hinkie. You're seeing now the efforts of the Colangelos actually developing a roster.

 

And that's another thing -- if the Sixers end up being good it should not be seen as validation of the process. It should be seen as validation of building a team effectively and maximizing resources Hinkie couldn't and didn't do that.

 

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7 minutes ago, BlackBolt3 said:

For the first time in a while, I am legit excited as a Hornets fan.

 

I have no idea what Dwight has to offer, but Malik Monk is really exciting. He could end up making everyone else look really stupid this draft.

1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

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21 minutes ago, DG_Now said:

 

So the bolded part is decidedly not the process. The process is to tank until you're absolutely sure you have generational talent, and then all of a sudden you win. Player development, smart trades, and complementary FA pickups were beyond Hinkie. You're seeing now the efforts of the Colangelos actually developing a roster.

 

And that's another thing -- if the Sixers end up being good it should not be seen as validation of the process. It should be seen as validation of building a team effectively and maximizing resources Hinkie couldn't and didn't do that.

 

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I have no idea what Dwight has to offer, but Malik Monk is really exciting. He could end up making everyone else look really stupid this draft.

 

I"m not sure "process" was ever defined.  There's more to "the process" than what Hinkie did, IMO.  Hinkie's charge was break it down, acquire assets, turn them into more assets, keep doing that until you have a solid core of great young players (and at least one "generational" talent.)  

 

It's possible that Hinkie was only ordered to execute one part of the process, and do it "until further notice".  Once ownership, advisors, (and eventually the league itself) felt enough was enough, "further notice" was given and he was out, and a "basketball guy" was brought in to lead part 2 of the process, which is what we (might) see this year and next.

 

It's like a computer program.  Hinkie's program was a continuous loop where an asset counter incremented by one every iteration of the loop.  Eventally, they hit the ESC key to exit the loop, that variable was passed to the next routine, which is what we're seeing now.

 

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If you take any 6 seed or lower team right now (especially in the East), would you choose to build around their core or the Sixers?  I know next-to-nothing about the NBA, but I'd bet there aren't any mid-level teams with a more attractive core group of young talent than the Sixers.hinkie_witness.png

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