Wings Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Well at least the Clippers can say they beat the Warriors in the playoffs way back in '14. Lol. So do the Warriors win the Pacific by 30 games this coming season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 WELP, it makes a lot more sense now. Stupid ass Doc Rivers. That part about not trading for Melo due to keeping Austin Rivers on the team is particularly egregious. This is from Michael Eaves: "Here's some information on the Chris Paul trade. First the MICRO: Paul's relationship with Doc Rivers started to deteriorate rapidly after the Clippers acquired Austin Rivers. Several members of the team felt Austin acted entitled because his dad was both the coach and the President of Basketball Operations. In the view of the tenured players, Austin Rivers never tried to fit in, and when players tried to address the situation with him, he still did not respond the way the core of the team wanted him to. It led to resentment within the locker room, which often played out during games. One of Paul's biggest contentions with Doc was that Paul, and other players, felt Doc treated Austin more favorably than other players. He would yell at guys for certain things during games and practices, but not get on Austin in the same manner for similar transgressions. But what really solidified Paul's dissatisfaction with Doc was a proposed trade involving Carmelo Anthony last season. New York offered Carmelo and Sasha Vujacic to the Clippers in exchange for Jamal Crawford, Paul Pierce and Austin Rivers, a deal to which Rivers ultimately said no. That event led Paul to feel that keeping his son on the roster was more important to Doc than improving the team. So, ultimately, Paul lost both trust and faith in Doc. As one league executive put it, "Chris despises Doc." (I was also told that when Paul met with the team to inform them of his plans, Jerry West was not in attendance. It was only Doc and Lawrence Frank.) MACRO This move is a win-win for Chris Paul, and it was all part of a master plan. By opting into the final year of his current contract and pressuring the Clippers to trade him to Houston, Paul will be in the exact same situation next summer. He can re-sign with the Rockets for 5 years and $200+ million or sign a 4-year deal for about $150 million with another team. In addition, he will save several million dollars in state income tax. Also, by being committed to the Rockets for only one season, it gives him a year to see if he can actually co-exist and pursue a title with James Harden. But even beyond that, this move gives Paul more flexibility to join LeBron James in 2018. If he stayed in LA or signed the max deal with the Clippers and forced them to do a sign-and-trade with the Rockets, Paul and LeBron could only join forces at one location. Now, they will have the ability to pick and choose wherever they want to go as a tandem, which could be Houston, LA {Lakers or Clippers (provided Doc is no longer with organization)}, or any other destination in-between." On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Isn't this a pretty clear case of tampering? Paul went to LAC management telling them he's going to HOU well before teams can speak with players AND BEFORE Paul's option deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Wait, the Clippers could have had Melo, Griffin, Paul, Jordan, and Redick, and said no? Doc should be on his ass today too. Apparently the Rockets are pushing for Paul George too. I bet, like Butler, Indiana is more amenable to an offer that gets him out of the conference. Without playing the trade machine, maybe some variation of Ariza, Harrell, Capela and Anderson? 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, DG_Now said: Wait, the Clippers could have had Melo, Griffin, Paul, Jordan, and Redick, and said no? Doc should be on his ass today too. Apparently the Rockets are pushing for Paul George too. I bet, like Butler, Indiana is more amenable to an offer that gets him out of the conference. Without playing the trade machine, maybe some variation of Ariza, Harrell, Capela and Anderson? Harrell had to be added to LAC, so that's $1.5M less to account for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Oh, I didn't know that! Harrell is good; I like him. At least that's one positive for the Clippers. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 17 minutes ago, DG_Now said: Oh, I didn't know that! Harrell is good; I like him. At least that's one positive for the Clippers. Rockets are buying up non guaranteed deals to get room for George. This is really crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I for one am looking forward to a new era for the Clippers. The Big Three was never going anywhere in the playoffs and we needed a change. Hopefully a coaching change is next - Doc has got to go. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DG_ThenNowForever Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 These are good points. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 7 hours ago, DG_Now said: Did Doc make that decision? I'm sure Jerry West suggested it or at least he supported Doc's decision. 7 hours ago, Bucfan56 said: Honestly? I kind of think this was a really dumb move on CP3’s part. I mean I guess it makes sense to try and line up a bunch of dudes to be free agents at the same time as Lebron. But Chris Paul is already injury prone and getting older, and he just moved to a more demanding run and gun offense where he sort of contradicts their best player. Just... Why? Why? I'd like to think that CP3 left because the logo of the Clippers was so damn awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Noire Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 I just saw all the Clippers news. It's a sad day as a fan, but it was a fun 6 years. Back to the drawing board. I believe in Jerry West. I'll miss all the Lakers fans that jumped over though. Good luck going back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Lee Noire said: I just saw all the Clippers news. It's a sad day as a fan, but it was a fun 6 years. Back to the drawing board. I believe in Jerry West. I'll miss all the Lakers fans that jumped over though. Good luck going back. Trusting the Process > believing in Jerry West. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Noire Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 53 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said: Trusting the Process > believing in Jerry West. I know. That phrase is way more catchier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 2 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said: Trusting the Process > believing in Jerry West. It worked pretty well for the warriors... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 8 hours ago, dont care said: It worked pretty well for the warriors... And the Lakers and the Grizzlies. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 18 hours ago, Lee Noire said: I'll miss all the Lakers fans that jumped over though. Most Laker fans jumped over to the Warriors, not the Clippers. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Noire Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 5 hours ago, Lights Out said: Most Laker fans jumped over to the Warriors, not the Clippers. You'd be surprised. My timeline was full of Lakers fans moaning about Clippers bandwagon jumpers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 I'd say hell no to that too. Kyrie is the closest thing to a next Kobe. Trading that for one year of Paul "Ballgame" George and a decent-ish PG is a terrible deal. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Since there is more smoke about Joe Lacob unwilling to go deep into the luxury tax, this Bobby Marks article from two weeks ago, but it explains the worst case scenario(s) for the Warriors and the luxury tax going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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