Victormrey

MLB in 2020 - Toronto Blue Jays (5/30)

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Awesome! Unlike the Rays, there's nothing I would change. ;)

 

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Well that was easy, great job! 

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Before starting with the ALC, I'd like to set what I'm going to do with the Cleveland team.

 

I'm pretty sure sooner or later the team will drop the Indians identity altogether.

At first, I thought on going for the Spiders, given it was their former name. But doing a small research, I came up with other options:

-Cleveland Blues/Bluebirds (used from 1882 to 1884)

-Cleveland Broncos (proposed by the players in 1902)

-Cleveland Napoleons (adopted in 1903)

-Cleveland Elites (team from the Negro League in 1926).

Also, I've had other two ideas:

-Cleveland Rockers (the Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame is in Cleveland)

-Cleveland Browns (bringing back the St. Louis Browns look)

 

Which name do you prefer?

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If you're gonna change it, I vote for the 'Spiders.'

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1 hour ago, Victormrey said:

Before starting with the ALC, I'd like to set what I'm going to do with the Cleveland team.

 

I'm pretty sure sooner or later the team will drop the Indians identity altogether.

That will never happen.  Cleveland dropping the Indians name is in the same chances of happening as Manchester United changing their crest because there is a devil in it.  Or Real Madrid changing their name to FC Madrid because they want to distance themselves from the crown in a pro democracy demonstration.

 

They'll ditch their offensive Chief Wahoo, finally, and move forward with the Indian identity.

 

Of course this is a concept forum so certainly you should explore alternate identities.  Browns would be hard because there would be too much tie in with the NFL team which is a sacred identity in Cleveland.  I say that because the baseball team would be compelled (forced?) to create some kind of logo for branding, which most people are set against doing for the Browns identity.  The Cleveland Brown's anti-logo identity would carry over to a baseball team by the people.

 

Spiders has fun possibilities if it wasn't for the identity's notorious history.  In the baseball world, the Spiders is synonymous with losing.  They hold the baseball record of the most losses in a season.  Anyone who follows baseball would never want their team named the Spiders.  That is why you don't see any team, major or minor league, named the spiders despite the cool potential for logos/brands/concepts.

 

I'd have fun and try to create the Rockers, but certainly try to do the other identities as well.  I'm just being a Debbie Downer this morning and pointing out why these names would never happen.

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"Blues" would be simple enough, as it would be a nice parallel to the neighboring Reds. Plus you could probably just keep the block "C" in blue instead of creating a new Cleveland wordmark.

 

Having said all that, although I think the Indians will eventually change their name, I'm not sure it would happen as soon as 2020. Think about how long it's taken for them to phase out Wahoo (it still hasn't happened yet). Not sure the fanbase would accept the team changing their identity within three years, as well. 

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Yeah, if we're being realistic, the name won't be gone. However, that shouldn't stop you from doing an additional concept demonstrating how you would brand the team. I agree with @coco1997 that Blues is your best course of action, but make sure that you brand them in a way that's distinct from the St. Louis Blues of the NHL. Maybe a "blues guitar" route, with a bit of musical notation thrown in on the scripts/cap logo (since the block C might not fit with this idea)?

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Maybe it's my history degree talking but I'd be interested in the Napoleons. Perhaps use a logo that has Nap Lajoie with his hand in his jersey like the Emperor?

jacques-louis_david_-_the_emperor_napole Lajoie_Nap_3.jpg

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9 minutes ago, SFGiants58 said:

Yeah, if we're being realistic, the name won't be gone. However, that shouldn't stop you from doing an additional concept demonstrating how you would brand the team. I agree with @coco1997 that Blues is your best course of action, but make sure that you brand them in a way that's distinct from the St. Louis Blues of the NHL. Maybe a "blues guitar" route, with a bit of musical notation thrown in on the scripts/cap logo (since the block C might not fit with this idea)?

 

The problem with the Blues name that I see is this: Cleveland/Ohio is not quite related to the Blues music, given it's not part of the Mississippi area, but going for the Bluebirds identity might make them look like the Blue Jays.

 

Given you all agree they'll  be keeping their name (at least within 3 years) I think I'll keep their current identity, choosing one of those from above at the end of the series, as a special design.

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Just now, Victormrey said:

Given you all agree they'll  be keeping their name (at least within 3 years) I think I'll keep their current identity, and choosing one of those from above at the end of the series, as a special design.

 

This sounds like the way to go. 

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6 hours ago, Carolingian Steamroller said:

Maybe it's my history degree talking but I'd be interested in the Napoleons. Perhaps use a logo that has Nap Lajoie with his hand in his jersey like the Emperor?

jacques-louis_david_-_the_emperor_napole Lajoie_Nap_3.jpg

I like this. Also, based on the picture, I think Lajoie would beat me with that bat for thinking that.

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Just an idea , but how about something space based for Cleveland, due to the states ties to NASA/ space exploration. Perhaps something like the Cleveland Cosmos or Comets? 

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9 hours ago, McTuna said:

Just an idea , but how about something space based for Cleveland, due to the states ties to NASA/ space exploration. Perhaps something like the Cleveland Cosmos or Comets? 

 

I like the idea, but I think it'd be too close to Astros' identity.

 

I've a lot of time to think about their rebrand. As soon as I choose a new name, I'll post it here.

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