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4 hours ago, Dolphins Dynasty said:

Would you wanna play in Utah?

Honestly, Utah seems like one of the better places to play in the NBA (kind of like OKC and Portland). Super dedicated fan base (the Jazz are the only major team in town, much like OKC). When you're bad you'll be nationally ignored (that is a blessing when rebuilding. A team like the Knicks is the exact opposite) When you're good you're a come out of no where underdog story (OKC is a good comparable example of this as well). SLC does lack night life, it lacks being surrounded by the entertainment industry, and the weather might not be everyone's cup of tea. Utah, in a lot of ways, has most of the best parts of being with an NBA franchise, with a minimal amount of the bad stuff surrounding it.

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52 minutes ago, O.C.D said:

Honestly, Utah seems like one of the better places to play in the NBA (kind of like OKC and Portland). Super dedicated fan base (the Jazz are the only major team in town, much like OKC). When you're bad you'll be nationally ignored (that is a blessing when rebuilding. A team like the Knicks is the exact opposite) When you're good you're a come out of no where underdog story (OKC is a good comparable example of this as well). SLC does lack night life, it lacks being surrounded by the entertainment industry, and the weather might not be everyone's cup of tea. Utah, in a lot of ways, has most of the best parts of being with an NBA franchise, with a minimal amount of the bad stuff surrounding it.

 

That...is an excellent way of putting it all. I hadn't thought of it in that way before. I think you completely nailed it.

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10 hours ago, O.C.D said:

Honestly, Utah seems like one of the better places to play in the NBA (kind of like OKC and Portland). Super dedicated fan base (the Jazz are the only major team in town, much like OKC). When you're bad you'll be nationally ignored (that is a blessing when rebuilding. A team like the Knicks is the exact opposite) When you're good you're a come out of no where underdog story (OKC is a good comparable example of this as well). SLC does lack night life, it lacks being surrounded by the entertainment industry, and the weather might not be everyone's cup of tea. Utah, in a lot of ways, has most of the best parts of being with an NBA franchise, with a minimal amount of the bad stuff surrounding it.

Interesting points.  I totally agree that in terms of attention, mocking, and pressure, a place like Utah would be much better than New York in lean times.  Over the last few years, the Knicks would perhaps be the worst team to play for.

 

I think every city, including SLC, has nightlife (though that may be the city that's closest to lacking it).  But there's a perception about that with some non-cosmopolitan places like Minneapolis, Milwaukee, OKC, etc.  Speaking of perception, I don't think SLC's weather is all that bad.  It's no Miami, but it's also no Minnesota. Perception-wise, though, players not from that part of the country probably think it's Siberia.

 

I read a Players Tribune piece from a former Jazz player (cannot recall who) that generally liked it there.  It's probably one of those places that a player is disappointed to land, but some of them end up liking the city.  That's happened to some athletes that have come to Minnesota teams.

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The city itself is nice, but when you are an athlete marketability is everything. In Utah you don't have that, no one outside of Utah knew who Gordon hayward was before they became good, now he gets to go to Boston where he. An truely market himself.

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Something certain is that Rubio will need to wear a different number with the Jazz, as #9 is retired for Larry H. Miller. He's had a few different international numbers and could wear one of those if available. We'll see for sure when he's introduced.

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On 7/7/2017 at 8:08 AM, dont care said:

The city itself is nice, but when you are an athlete marketability is everything. In Utah you don't have that, no one outside of Utah knew who Gordon hayward was before they became good, now he gets to go to Boston where he. An truely market himself.

 

Isnt Utah also the state where the alcohol content in your beer can't be above a certain limit, so people have to drive to Wyoming/Nevada if they really want decent booze? No thanks. 

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10 hours ago, DNAsports said:

It is a little annoying how indecisive NBA  team executives can be and how expendable they see their players. Michael Carter-Williams is a perfect example of that.

 

Yet they give dudes 30-40M multi-year contracts to lock them up too.  You're either a superstar (or in some cases an average joe in the right place at the right time) or you're not.  Even if you're not, you still make way more money than you are responsible for generating for the teams, so overall the NBA is probably the best league for any athlete at any level to play in.

 

Seriously - of the 4 major north american sports leagues, is there any league where average players get the kind of contracts that they do in the NBA?  Or where the stars get $40M?  What's the top contract in MLB - is (was) it still A-Rods 27.5M?  NFL - 20M?  

 

I totally get that the NBA is more star driven than those other sports, and there's fewer players to distribute revenue to, but wow- when contracts can be measured in the % of a billion range, it becomes so hard to fathom that it's like it's not even real.  

 

If they're generating that much revenue, then I want them to be compensated accordingly, rather than it all going into the owner's hands.  I just think that pro sports needs to implode, and get back to a more reasonable revenue / compensation level, because the players are just so out of touch with reality that it's hard to even get behind them.

 

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11 hours ago, Bucfan56 said:

 

Isnt Utah also the state where the alcohol content in your beer can't be above a certain limit, so people have to drive to Wyoming/Nevada if they really want decent booze? No thanks. 

 

No.  Full strength beer is available in Utah.  As is liquor. https://www.visitsaltlake.com/restaurants/utah-drinking/

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2 hours ago, tigerslionspistonshabs said:

Does SLC completely lack a nightlife? I mean it's not New York, L.A., Chicago or Miami, but I'm sure there's decent restaurants and clubs. Might not be a 20 year old rookie's cup of tea, but if I'm late 20s trying to start a family, that's where I'd want to be. 

You are right, but it's not just nightlife that makes players avoid Utah. It's the fact that their marketability drops dramatically playing their versus almost every other city with an NBA team. With endorsments being in some cases more than certain players NBA salaries it's a big deal for them. 

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