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1 hour ago, Lee Noire said:

That's my issue with some owners and even some players getting behind the protests now. Because Trump ran his mouth. I'm glad they are motivated now to take a stand, but Kaepernick's original point is being swept away and that's annoying. I'd be lying if I said it wasn't great to see though.

 

Hope that wasn't too far guys. Football!!!

 

I'll try to tread as lightly as possible as this is political, but as someone who leans right yet despises Trump and his co-opting of a large part of the right, just about everything about this whole situation has been eating at me.

 

From the way our President throwing a Twitter tantrum about a team refusing to visit him at the White House to how Colin Kaepernick's original point in kneeling has kind of mutated in these protests, it hurts me to see the divide between both sides.

 

I've always felt that, whatever one's views, standing for the flag was intended to represent unity on both sides and hope for a better country and world, regardless of political views, race, religion, etc. Instead, it's become "You will stand or you're not patriotic...Murica!!" from those who do stand to those who don't and "How dare you support this Presidency!!" from those who don't stand to those who do. In short, at least in my view was never meant to be a point of division but instead has become exactly that. It's that binarization (is that a word?) of this situation what irritates me most.

 

The U.S. is far from perfect in terms  of social equality, and those who want to kneel can in protest (freedom of speech and all) and those who want to stand can (freedom of speech and all), but live and let live, please.

 

(If this is too far over the political line, mods, feel free to delete).

 

Anyways, back to the games. Carolina is not who I thought they were, and neither is Denver. You can't overlook Buffalo or New Orleans (though I never try to count out the Saints as long as their core remains together).

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I'm starting to think that Jameis over Marcus was a REALLY bad idea. 

 

I mean, i thought that at the time, too. But it's REALLY starting to show.

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31 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

I'm starting to think that Jameis over Marcus was a REALLY bad idea. 

 

I mean, i thought that at the time, too. But it's REALLY starting to show.

 

From a football point of view you're probably right, but for off-field reasons I don't think the Bucs were going to pass on the opportunity to take a guy who'd won a Heisman and a National Title at Florida State...

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6 minutes ago, waltere said:

 

From a football point of view you're probably right, but for off-field reasons I don't think the Bucs were going to pass on the opportunity to take a guy who'd won a Heisman and a National Title at Florida State...

 

Which is STUPID because Mariota was one collectively bad game away from having basically identical accolades at Oregon (including beating Winston to get there). I've warmed up to Winston in his time in Tampa, but there's no way IMO that he reaches the same heights as Mariota IMO, and I think most people knew that.

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1 hour ago, DustDevil61 said:

I've always felt that, whatever one's views, standing for the flag was intended to represent unity on both sides and hope for a better country and world, regardless of political views, race, religion, etc. Instead, it's become "You will stand or you're not patriotic...Murica!!" from those who do stand to those who don't and "How dare you support this Presidency!!" from those who don't stand to those who do. In short, at least in my view was never meant to be a point of division but instead has become exactly that. It's that binarization (is that a word?) of this situation what irritates me most.

 

You're not wrong. In a broad sense, we've dug ourselves into a deep ditch known as identity politics in this country and unfortunately our political ideologies have become like the nWo and established a "you're either with us, or you're against it" attitude. The loud mouths on both side get the publicity while the rational and logical people are pushed to the side.

 

Obligatory NFL comment: The Bengals are beating the Packers. WUT.

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That's lame but NFL and NCAA officials have shown willingness to make the game-deciding sill 15-yard call.  I've never seen something like that but I guess it was unsportsmanlike.  So I guess that's on Miller as much as I don't want to say it.

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3 hours ago, OnWis97 said:

The Case Keenum-led Vikings had quite a turnaround this week.  Keenum himself looked like a Pro Bowl QB.

Keenum always plays like a stud against the Bucs. 

 

Welp, 1-1 isn't so bad this far in the season for the Bucs.

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i see this in Court soon:

A62-63 of the NFL League Rulebook. It states:
“The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.
“During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition...
...It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.”

 
should might be the word that is judged.  
 
 

so long and thanks for all the fish.

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19 minutes ago, goalieboy82 said:

i see this in Court soon:

A62-63 of the NFL League Rulebook. It states:
“The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.
“During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition...
...It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.”

 
should might be the word that is judged.  
 
 

 

"May" is the key word. It may result in discipline, which means it also may not. It seems to be at Goodell's discretion and he's already weighed in. 

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All I'll say about the whole national anthem kneeling stuff, is that it makes me yearn for those days when professional sports were a way for people to come together as a reprieve to all the drama & bull :censored: going on in the world. The players kneeling doesn't bother me, it's just the fact the all this political discourse has seeped into something that before was seen as an escape from it. 

 

Back to the actual games at hand, I'm going to have to applaud who got more than 5 of these game right LOL. Bears over Steelers? Saints over Panthers? Jags making mincemeat of the Ravens in London? Definitely one of those upset weeks. I'll give Houston credit, they came damn close to also joining one of those upset game. But even at 40 To Brady showed he can still do Tom Brady things. 

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Sports become political the moment they play the anthem.

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11 minutes ago, OnWis97 said:

Sports become political the moment they play the anthem.

The playing of the national anthem before games has been a part of sporting events for well over 100 years, and as Dustdevil and Brass notes is more "national" in nature, which doesn't and shouldn't mean "political"...

 

I think the smartest thing to do is change the order of events to the way it used to be--- have NFL teams enter the playing field AFTER the national anthem is played.  That's the way it is in LSU's Tiger Stadium. And that's why I think the Seahawks/Titans approach was the best. It eliiminates the very visual opportunity for displays in a divisive issue that will hurt the league's bottom line.

It is what it is.

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