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bosrs1    648
11 hours ago, LA_Angels said:

I don't think a new stadium will fix the rays problem at all. Based on what happend in Miami, I don't believe a new stadium will always solve attendance problems. I feel like a possible market other than Montreal on the upswing currently would be Sacramento; nice metro area, only the kings to compete with, and a stadium that could be expanded to MLB standards if needed. However i view this as an alternate option to the A's stadium fiasco, because 3 NorCal teams might be pushing it.

 

Sacramento doesn't have a stadium that can be expanded to MLB standards :/

 

Not to mention they blew their public funding wad on the Kings and Republic. 

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AstroBull21    566
1 hour ago, dfwabel said:

If Omaha was chosen, the team would have a 20+ day road trip in June due to the College World Series. That contract is through 2035.

Yeah, that's not happening...

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Gothamite    6,085
2 hours ago, bosrs1 said:

Sacramento doesn't have a stadium that can be expanded to MLB standards :/

 

Not to mention they blew their public funding wad on the Kings and Republic. 

 

The Republic's stadium is privately financed.  As they all should be. 

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sc49erfan15    896

I'm tired of hearing Charlotte as an option.


Their new minor league stadium is not expandable to MLB standards. Charlotte has committed to being a minor league baseball town for at least the next 20 years.

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bosrs1    648
3 hours ago, Gothamite said:

 

The Republic's stadium is privately financed.  As they all should be. 

 

Stadium is true, but there are infrastructure items around the stadium the city will be footing. They weren't the bulk of the "wad blowing" I was referring to earlier though, the Kings were the majority of that. But there certainly isn't enough left to build a new MLB park. And unlike what was suggested, there is no park that can be upgraded to MLB standards (for some reason there's this myth that has persisted for over a decade that Raley Field across the river in West Sacramento can somehow be upgraded to MLB standards)

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Gothamite    6,085

I will take your word on Raley Field; I honestly know nothing about it.  But it's important to note that the relatively few infrastructure improvements around the site do not in any way equal public funding for the Republic's new stadium.

 

I have a passionate hatred for public financing of stadiums. Infrastructure here and there is the very job of a municipality.  

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the admiral    10,639
7 hours ago, AstroBull21 said:

The population (and money) in the Miami area is a little bit north in Broward County so if Marlins Park was built a little further north and optimized it's location that may have helped overall.

 

Wayne Huizenga checking in. Maybe they should have built it near Sawgrass Mills, that's worked out!

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AstroBull21    566
12 minutes ago, the admiral said:

 

Wayne Huizenga checking in. Maybe they should have built it near Sawgrass Mills, that's worked out!

I didn't imply that Sunrise would be a better option, but who knows....just speculation.

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the admiral    10,639

I mean, Little Havana isn't a perfect location (the AAA has that), but it's the old Orange Bowl site, so it's not as if it's unthinkable for people to go there for sports. It's about a mile northwest of downtown Miami. It's fine. And Broward is so developed at this point that who knows where you could even plop down a stadium.

 

btw the money is even more serious up around Boca Raton and Palm Beach but I wouldn't put a stadium there either

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dfwabel    1,051
2 hours ago, Gothamite said:

I will take your word on Raley Field; I honestly know nothing about it.  But it's important to note that the relatively few infrastructure improvements around the site do not in any way equal public funding for the Republic's new stadium.

 

I have a passionate hatred for public financing of stadiums. Infrastructure here and there is the very job of a municipality.  

The Raley Field thing has been discussed here quite a few times. It should come up in a search as I believe once I linked to the A's ballpark blog with the quotes from somebody the RiverCats regarding the construction.

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LMU    3,135

Sacramento's only an option for an A's relocation if the new Oakland project falls through.  I don't see Nor Cal supporting three teams when the most populated city up there is stuck in territorial rights limbo.

 

Plus, Sacramento, being in the Central Valley, probably needs a roof because weather-wise it can fluctuate from 110ºF to blinding fog that closes the airport.

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HedleyLamarr    1,383

I went to the Braves game last night, and was chatting it up with these two guys that were next to us.  He was from Tampa, so naturally the Rays and their ballpark came up.  He had a couple of interesting tidbits:

 

1. Apparently the Rays people are in communication with the Braves about how they were able to come up with stadium location and all that fun stuff.  (So I guess this goes in line with whatever the Rays planned on discussing come this offseason...wasn't there something about the Rays and stadium plans coming this December?)

 

2. The population of St. Petersburg has gone up in the last five years, though it remains the poorer city between them and Tampa.

 

3. The desire seems to be for a retractable roof, because this is Florida in the summertime.

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marlinfan    5
12 hours ago, AstroBull21 said:

Miami is a bad measuring stick because while the Marlins got a brand new stadium, it's location still hinders it much like Tropicana Field and the Rays.

 

The population (and money) in the Miami area is a little bit north in Broward County so if Marlins Park was built a little further north and optimized it's location that may have helped overall.

 

Miami-Dade has 2.6 million people to Broward's 1.9 million. Adding Palm Beach's population to Broward's is unrealistic because no one in their right mind will consistently drive 20 miles down to downtown Fort Lauderdale. The Marlins basically tried being in the geographic center of a metro area 70 miles long and it did not work out. The Marlins made the right move in moving closer to the urban core of Miami-Dade County. Downtown Miami is the largest and fastest growing of the three urban cores in South Fla. Redevelopment is already pushing up the river and into Little Havana a couple blocks from where the stadium is. There was a time in the 90s that many believed downtown Fort Lauderdale would overtake Miami as the most important urban hub. I think that argument is dead and buried.

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the admiral    10,639
1 hour ago, marlinfan said:

Adding Palm Beach's population to Broward's is unrealistic because no one in their right mind will consistently drive 20 miles down to downtown Fort Lauderdale.

I-95 between Jupiter and West Palm is the longest ten-mile drive in the world. I don't get it. It's not that the traffic is always unbearable (but southbound at rush hour sure is), there's just some space-time distortion that makes going to Jupiter feel like going to the planet Jupiter.

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AstroBull21    566
11 hours ago, the admiral said:

I-95 between Jupiter and West Palm is the longest ten-mile drive in the world. I don't get it. It's not that the traffic is always unbearable (but southbound at rush hour sure is), there's just some space-time distortion that makes going to Jupiter feel like going to the planet Jupiter.

Yeah being from Tampa, and only ever going to Miami proper twice....half the drive is going from Tampa to Palm Beach county and the other half is the rest of the drive to Miami.

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Magic Dynasty    480
10 hours ago, bleuet said:

Tryin to imagine Gary Bettman's face if a MLB team would go Vegas!

 

Can you spell "nightmare"?

I'd like to see Bettman try.

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waltere    307
22 minutes ago, Magic Dynasty said:

I'd like to see Bettman try.

G-O-L-D-E-N  K-N-I-G-H-T-M-A-R-E

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Ice_Cap    7,766
21 hours ago, bleuet said:

Tryin to imagine Gary Bettman's face if a MLB team would go Vegas!

 

Can you spell "nightmare"?

Baseball? Hell, the Raiders moving into town will be enough to make the Golden Knights an afterthought. 

 

Especially if the Knights can't even get on tv in their home market :upside: 

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Gothamite    6,085
1 hour ago, Ice_Cap said:

Especially if the Knights can't even get on tv in their home market :upside: 

 

Wait, what?  Did I miss something?

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