crashcarson15

New Forum Policy on “Megathreads”

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crashcarson15    959

Hey everyone.

 

We’re piloting a new forum policy where “big four” sports teams that are unveiling a significant logo/uniform change and/or seen had a significant logo/uniform change leaked will see forum discussion split off from the league’s “megathread” into individual threads. I’ve gone ahead and done this with the Pacers unveiling yesterday, splitting that discussion into its own thread.

 

The motivation, largely, is that “megathreads” are particularly vulnerable to potential discussion getting trapped and looked over, and can be particularly difficult to navigate when they grow significantly in 24 hours, as they often do when a team unveils a new set. When the Pacers unveil a new uniform, that discussion shouldn’t be swallowing up news about the Trail Blazers’ new threads, for example.

 

We don’t necessarily need individual threads when teams are making small tweaks, especially when it relates to the Adidas -> Nike move the NBA is making this offseason; the slightly different Thunder shorts don’t require a split from the megathread.

 

Additionally, let’s keep all speculation to the so-called “megathread.” An individual thread should be created for each team either…

  • On the date of the expected logo or uniform unveiling
  • When a credible image of the logo or uniform has leaked

 

I’ll set out some examples of how we’d implement the new policy, and hopefully they make good sense.

 

We would want an individual thread in instances like…

  • An expansion team’s unveiling, like the Vegas Golden Knights last month
  • When a team is keeping its logo suite the same, but unveiling a new uniform design, like the Minnesota Wild last month
  • When a team is introducing a new logo, like the Minnesota Timberwolves did a couple months ago

 

We do not need an individual thread in instances like…

  • A team makes minor tweaks to its uniform, like the Columbus Blue Jackets last month.
  • A team introduces a new tertiary or anniversary mark.
  • A team’s jersey is transferring to a new cut or manufacturer, but largely keeping the design the same, like the Oklahoma City Thunder.

 

This announcement only directly pertains to the major four American/Canadian sports leagues: MLB, NBA, NFL and NHL.

 

Soccer kit news should remain in the megathread; creating individual threads for kits would bog the forum down significantly, which is the danger of this policy. However, if a major club or an MLS team has unveiled a new crest, it should have its own thread.

 

I’m keeping this thread open to field questions and feedback from the forum, so please do let me know if you have any questions!

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Gothamite    5,745

Thank you for this! 

 

I think that it's a great idea to limit speculation to the mega thread, but personally I'm less happy about some of the restrictions on individual threads.   If a team unveils a new anniversary logo to be worn for an entire year, that seems worthy of a new thread.  Many of us avoid the megathreads because they get so unwieldy, and some good stuff will otherwise be lost. 

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Gothamite    5,745

Here's another example of why I think the solo-thread limitations are too strict; under these guidelines this thread, created this morning, shouldn't exist. 

 

 

 

It's a new logo for a new team, so that makes sense.  But it's not a major league, so according to that it should be limited to the megathread.  But it's a good topic, and really seems worthy of discussion.

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EddieJ1984    271

I think individual threads tend to be better, like the 2018 Mlb All Star Game logo deserved it's own thread, but instead its talked about in the MLB 2017 thread.

Which sorta doesn't make sense since it relates to 2018, but it is certainly too early to make a MLB 2018 thread.

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crashcarson15    959
11 hours ago, Gothamite said:

Here's another example of why I think the solo-thread limitations are too strict; under these guidelines this thread, created this morning, shouldn't exist. 

 

 

 

It's a new logo for a new team, so that makes sense.  But it's not a major league, so according to that it should be limited to the megathread.  But it's a good topic, and really seems worthy of discussion.

TBF, I don’t expect those guidelines to pertain to minor league teams, and see no issue with that having its own thread.

 

It’s more a set of guidelines to draw discussion out of megathreads for the topics the board cares most about, rather than to restrict other discussion to a megathread. We can evolve these as time goes on, too, based on what the community thinks is most important; to me, anniversary logos are little more than footnotes, but if others feel differently, we can and should change the criteria.

 

At the same time, I know there are members that prefer the idea of a “megathread,” so I’m trying to split the difference a little here, too.

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Gothamite    5,745

If you don't mind my asking, was there a concern that we had too many threads?  I thought we had a pretty good balance already; every change made it into a megathread, and some also got their own.  If the change was too minor or the conversation uninspiring, it quickly dropped to the back pages and was forgotten.   Was that deemed insufficient?

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CS85    5,110

I feel like this is a necessary change, and honestly I'd let it go even further. It's not a democracy, so why not have it both ways?


Pinning general threads is always a safe bet, since inevitably some will want megathreads, others will want specific threads, and honestly since this is a uni/logo design forum, even incremental changes kind of merit their own threads (unless there's already a team-specific thread in place).  

 

Either way, I applaud the mods.  Please take the previous sentence into consideration next time you get a butthurt complaint from someone about one of my posts.

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oldschoolvikings    3,465

I'm all for anything that might help to put an end to the amateur mod jumping down someone's throat for opening a new thread with the obligatory "already being discussed HERE!" post.

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BringBackTheVet    4,086

This is good.  While there was always a rule that individual threads could be made, too often jerkoffs would get on people for doing it and post links to a post on page 1,224 of the megathread.

 

Megathreads have their purpose.  Discussing league-wide changes, like BP cap material, promotions like the stupid little league thing, manufacturer changes, rumors, etc.  But it's so difficult to critique and have a discussion about a uniform when another one is unveiled the same day and there's two separate conversations going on right on the same page of a megathread.

 

It won't produce clutter.  If nobody cares that a minor league team totally overhauls its look then it'll naturally fall off the first page.  It could get crazy if there were threads for NCAA teams since nowadays they have like 20 unis each and change every year, but I think people are smart enough to only make a separate thread for something really significant.

 

I remember the pre-megathread days and it was fine.

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OnWis97    2,149

I like this.  There were a couple times when a uniform overhaul would be announced and some backseat mod would jump in on post #3 and say it should be in the 300-page megathread.  

 

Hopefully the participants can understand this.  If so, it's a good balance.  Hopefully when the Yankees announce they are removing their pinstripes, nobody will say "uh, we have an MLB thread."  But the general thread obviously is a good place for a team adding a memorial patch, the inconsistencies of how players wear pants/socks, "Natinals" jerseys, and the like.  The policy is roughly how I'd like these things to go

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