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NBA 2017-18: A Tale of Two Conferences

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Kaz    711
1 hour ago, MJWalker45 said:

I could see LeBron jump to New York.  With a new rookie and solid role players it's almost falling into place for him. He'd be on a competitive team in a strong media market with strong basketball roots and a fan base starved for a championship.  

The key reason why he’s likely to jump ship is because of an asshat owner; I doubt he’s even considering playing for Dolan

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OKC does well in the regular season and wins the division with approximately 52 wins. But they're not playoff built. Way too thin. They've got one somewhat serviceable backup guard in Felton, and Patrick Patterson up front (assuming Adams starts). If they end up playing Minnesota in the first round (4-5), I'm not even sure they beat them.

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rams80    2,897
On 9/23/2017 at 1:02 PM, ozzyman314 said:

Imagine what a monster team OKC would be if KD hadn't bitched out because he wanted a ring. 

 

OKC doesn't add the parts they added this year if they had KD Tawwmmy.

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Seadragon76    312

I like the title here... definitely makes sense.

 

The West is going to be an all out war with at least 4 or 5 teams (Golden State, San Antonio, Houston, Oklahoma City and possibly Minnesota) being the cream of the crop and then three playoff spots left. That middle group of 5 teams (Memphis, Portland, the Clippers, Utah, and the Lakers) will fight for those spots. That leaves the bottom group (Dallas, New Orleans, Denver, Phoenix and Sacramento).

 

Out East, it's Boston and Cleveland... that's it. Maybe Toronto and Milwaukee if they can play their cards right, but if it's not Celtics vs. Cavs in the Eastern Finals, consider me surprised. After those four, it's a big freaking dog pile of 8 teams for 4 playoff spots (Atlanta, Miami, Washington, Charlotte, Indiana, Chicago, Detroit and Philadelphia) That leaves Orlando, Brooklyn and New York to round out the East (and the Knicks bombing so badly that they get the Number 1 pick in the 2018 Draft)

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HedleyLamarr    1,387
On 9/25/2017 at 5:25 PM, Seadragon76 said:

I like the title here... definitely makes sense.

 

The West is going to be an all out war with at least 4 or 5 teams (Golden State, San Antonio, Houston, Oklahoma City and possibly Minnesota) being the cream of the crop and then three playoff spots left. That middle group of 5 teams (Memphis, Portland, the Clippers, Utah, and the Lakers) will fight for those spots. That leaves the bottom group (Dallas, New Orleans, Denver, Phoenix and Sacramento).

 

Out East, it's Boston and Cleveland... that's it. Maybe Toronto and Milwaukee if they can play their cards right, but if it's not Celtics vs. Cavs in the Eastern Finals, consider me surprised. After those four, it's a big freaking dog pile of 8 teams for 4 playoff spots (Atlanta, Miami, Washington, Charlotte, Indiana, Chicago, Detroit and Philadelphia) That leaves Orlando, Brooklyn and New York to round out the East (and the Knicks bombing so badly that they get the Number 1 pick in the 2018 Draft)

No way the Hawks make the playoffs this year.  Again, casual basketball fan, and I can't name more than a few of their players....Schroeder, Bazemore, one of the Plumlees, that guy named after a fraternity...

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Seadragon76    312
36 minutes ago, HedleyLamarr said:

No way the Hawks make the playoffs this year.  Again, casual basketball fan, and I can't name more than a few of their players....Schroeder, Bazemore, one of the Plumlees, that guy named after a fraternity...

 

This is just me, but the entire Southeast Division is possibly the weakest division in the NBA. There's no one team that stands out from the crowd. So what if Atlanta has a group of no-name players... the division is that weak.

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JTernup    118
On September 25, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Seadragon76 said:

I like the title here... definitely makes sense.

 

The West is going to be an all out war with at least 4 or 5 teams (Golden State, San Antonio, Houston, Oklahoma City and possibly Minnesota) being the cream of the crop and then three playoff spots left. That middle group of 5 teams (Memphis, Portland, the Clippers, Utah, and the Lakers) will fight for those spots. That leaves the bottom group (Dallas, New Orleans, Denver, Phoenix and Sacramento).

 

Out East, it's Boston and Cleveland... that's it. Maybe Toronto and Milwaukee if they can play their cards right, but if it's not Celtics vs. Cavs in the Eastern Finals, consider me surprised. After those four, it's a big freaking dog pile of 8 teams for 4 playoff spots (Atlanta, Miami, Washington, Charlotte, Indiana, Chicago, Detroit and Philadelphia) That leaves Orlando, Brooklyn and New York to round out the East (and the Knicks bombing so badly that they get the Number 1 pick in the 2018 Draft)

You're about to be surprised by the Nuggets. There is NO WAY they finish below Minnesota, Memphis, Portland, LAC, Utah, and the Lakers. I'd be shocked if they even finished behind 3 of them, let alone all 6.

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^ Agreed. I think there's a clear top 4- GS, HOU, SA and OKC. Minnesota is not far behind, but I've learned not to trust them. Regardless, I think they're a top 6 minimum. Denver is definitely a playoff team, as is Utah. Yes, they lost their best player but they're deep enough and have a great defense. After that, it's the Clippers, New Orleans and Portland fighting for that 8 spot. Memphis is way too thin. 

 

16 hours ago, Seadragon76 said:

 

This is just me, but the entire Southeast Division is possibly the weakest division in the NBA. There's no one team that stands out from the crowd. So what if Atlanta has a group of no-name players... the division is that weak.

 

Yea, Atlanta's going to absolutely suck. Them and the Bulls will be lucky to crack 20 wins. I think Miami surprises a lot. They win the SE and take the 4 seed. They're deep, have a group of guys and a coach that've been together for years, and finished last season on an absolute tear. 

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Crabcake47    418
2 hours ago, tigerslionspistonshabs said:

Yea, Atlanta's going to absolutely suck. Them and the Bulls will be lucky to crack 20 wins. I think Miami surprises a lot. They win the SE and take the 4 seed. They're deep, have a group of guys and a coach that've been together for years, and finished last season on an absolute tear. 

The Southeast is definitely really weak, Atlanta and Orlando are bad and i don't think Charlotte has enough talent to make the playoffs.  TBH I think the Wizards take this division easily though, and that's not just bias.  Wall-Beal-Porter is deadly, and as long as they don't have too many injuries they'll be good to go.

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21 minutes ago, Crabcake47 said:

The Southeast is definitely really weak, Atlanta and Orlando are bad and i don't think Charlotte has enough talent to make the playoffs.  TBH I think the Wizards take this division easily though, and that's not just bias.  Wall-Beal-Porter is deadly, and as long as they don't have too many injuries they'll be good to go.

 

So thin though. That was their downfall the past 2 seasons and they did nothing to reinforce their bench. I've just got a feeling about Miami. Charlotte should be back in the playoffs as long as Kemba Walker repeats his success and the rest of the squad stays healthy. It remains to be seen if Dwight fits in, but I think as horrible as the east is, they're a playoff team.

 

 

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Crabcake47    418
4 hours ago, tigerslionspistonshabs said:

 

So thin though. That was their downfall the past 2 seasons and they did nothing to reinforce their bench. I've just got a feeling about Miami. Charlotte should be back in the playoffs as long as Kemba Walker repeats his success and the rest of the squad stays healthy. It remains to be seen if Dwight fits in, but I think as horrible as the east is, they're a playoff team.

 

 

You're right on all those points.  It is gonna be real interesting to see how many teams make it in in the Eats who wouldn't have a prayer out West.

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Kaz    711

The Heat are relying on Dion Waiters to be magical and for Kelly "Put 'em in the Clinic" Olynyk to be a reliable starter next to Whiteside.  The Heat have some interesting pieces, but they need everything to click just right or else I don't see them even passing Charlotte in the Southeast, never mind Washington.

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kimball    630

How much closer do you think Cleveland gets to Golden State with the addition of D-Wade? 

 

That backcourt is DEEP! I'm just not sure with injuries and age how effective they'll all be? But, if this is 2011 ... there's NO way the Cavs lose the title! :lol:

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On 9/27/2017 at 11:19 PM, kimball said:

How much closer do you think Cleveland gets to Golden State with the addition of D-Wade? 

 

That backcourt is DEEP! I'm just not sure with injuries and age how effective they'll all be? But, if this is 2011 ... there's NO way the Cavs lose the title! :lol:

 

Yeah they're deep from 1-10. As long as everyone stays healthy, they'll give GS a run for their money. Especially since GS will be beaten up a bit more this time around, having to face most likely Houston or OKC in the WFC. 

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Crabcake47    418
8 minutes ago, tigerslionspistonshabs said:

 

Yeah they're deep from 1-10. As long as everyone stays healthy, they'll give GS a run for their money. Especially since GS will be beaten up a bit more this time around, having to face most likely Houston or OKC in the WFC. 

I gotta bad feeling about OKC for some reason.  I feel like they're gonna disappoint and get upset in the playoffs.  I really want them to work out bc I'd love to see someone other than Golden State make it to the Finals.  But I think it's inevitable unfortunately. 

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jmac11281    1,133

I have no idea why some think that the addition of Carmelo is going to do anything but hurt the team. Picking up George was a huge boost but I think the Carmelo acquisition sets them back a bit.

 

Just my 2 copper coins...

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