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NBA 2017-18: A Tale of Two Conferences

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So the Jazz get the man they were looking for last summer in Jae Crowder. While I am cautious about his production this season, I am also optimistic that being in a different system will provide him an opportunity to return to form.

 

I'm also curious as to what number he wears. He's worn 99 in Boston and Cleveland, but I can't think of any Jazz player who's worn a number higher than 55. Something's gotta give there.

 

I also hope that Joe Johnson finds himself on a contender to make one last push or two at a championship as well. As a Jazz fan, Iso Joe's buzzer beater against the Clippers in Game 1 of the first round last year will be one of my favorite moments in Jazz history.

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It's been reported that James spoke with the team about Wade's departure. I'm sure that's fine.

 

They still have to play the games, but has any team ever won the trade deadline the way the Cavs just did? Outside of flipping TT for DJ, they got all they could have wanted. I'm still in shock.

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36 minutes ago, crashcarson15 said:

The Nets pick is a half-game from being a guaranteed top-six pick in a draft where there are six really good prospects available. A game out from having the best odds at No. 1. That pick has more value than any player the Cavs could've traded it for, and I'm glad they held onto it. I think that the Cavs have actually positioned themselves decently for LeBron heading into this summer, too -- it's now hard to argue that it's only downhill from here. If this team is able to get back to the Finals, I think it shows that this is still (for all its faults) his best shot.

 

If that Nets pick rolls high in the lottery (or god forbid it hits #1, Billy King will have to leave the country), things could get mighty interesting. They can't trade the pick straight-up because Stepien, but they could do a pick swap and trade it for someone else's #20 or something.

 

That's the other thing with George Hill - he will help them on the court, but after the season's over he's pretty disposable as a 32 year old non-star making a ton of money. Hill's contract is big enough that his salary could be used to facilitate a trade for another star player, and the Cavs can bait the hook with a #1/top-3 Nets pick and Nance if he has a good showing this spring (and Zizic I guess but it seems like he's lost a bit of steam as a prospect). The jackpot scenario would be Anthony Davis or Kawhi Leonard, but surely alternatives will be available in the likely event that Cleveland got outbid for those guys, since even with the top pick they wouldn't have much to work with.

 

Or, the Cavs could zig left and just keep the pick if it rolls #1/top-3 (or whatever they'd be happy with) and tell LeBron to kick rocks, you're 33 years old and we can't keep burning the candle at both ends just to make you happy. Then LeBron goes to LA, Paul George/star #2 follows him, and for the Lakers' third star the Cavs trade Love to LA for Deng's contract, Ingram or Kuzma, and try to recoup a 1st rounder or two. Unlikely, but how hilarious would that be.

 

So many rabbit holes, so little time.

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I've had it with this guy. He bitched his way out of Phoenix and went out of his way to trash them multiple times after joining the Celtics, he cried like a teenage girl for months after Boston traded him to Cleveland for a better player, he turns the Cavs inside out with his small man's complex and leaking s*** to the media - not to mention playing like hot garbage - then he gets traded again to LA and he has the balls to dictate through his agent that he's not coming off the bench? You're not Allen Iverson buddy, you're a 5'9" Jerry Stackhouse on a GOOD day.

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I know it's among the least significant moves today and it'll probably be curtains for his career in 3 months, but I am so excited for D-Wade to be back in Miami.

 

(...not to mention these):

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:D:D:D

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8 hours ago, OnWis97 said:

Weren't all indications out of Boston that Isaiah Thomas was a great guy?  Then he gets to Cleveland and becomes a cancer?  I'm probably missing something from his Boston days.

Considering that he was the one who had it in for Love for his illness.

 

I think that if anything, IT gets brownie points for playing after his sister's death.  Any "cancer" reputation, founded or unfounded, got brushed aside in Boston after that.

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9 hours ago, OnWis97 said:

Weren't all indications out of Boston that Isaiah Thomas was a great guy?  Then he gets to Cleveland and becomes a cancer?  I'm probably missing something from his Boston days.

The Kings dumped him because he couldn't get along with Cousins. The Suns dumped him because he couldn't get along with Dragic. Playing under Brad Stevens is the only time Isaiah actually wasn't a cancer, it seems.

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I'm still not convinced LeBron is going to the Lakers. Paul George either. Would Be hilarious if the Lakers ended up with nobody and remain mediocre. 

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40 minutes ago, Wings said:

I'm still not convinced LeBron is going to the Lakers. Paul George either. Would Be hilarious if the Lakers ended up with nobody and remain mediocre. 

That won't happen mate.

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21 minutes ago, OaklandIsBack said:

When was the Lakers' last big free agent signing?

 

KCP! KCP!

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I'm just wondering, why the Cavs gave away Wade to Miami for nothing? At least the second round pick they got could have had no protections, considering Wade was a productive role player.

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20 minutes ago, truepg said:

I'm just wondering, why the Cavs gave away Wade to Miami for nothing? At least the second round pick they got could have had no protections, considering Wade was a productive role player.

 

The Cavs like what they've seen in Cedi Osman and want to give him a bigger role. He's a good defender and hustles. I'm sure Wade new his minutes were going down and both sides thought it was best to move on.

 

Cavs fans should feel better after yesterday. Even if ESPN wants to dump on us with their whole "these moves definitely mean Lebron is playing for the Lakers, Clippers and Warriors next season" bullcrap. 

 

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18 minutes ago, VDizzle12 said:

 

The Cavs like what they've seen in Cedi Osman and want to give him a bigger role. He's a good defender and hustles. I'm sure Wade new his minutes were going down and both sides thought it was best to move on.


Trading away Wade made sense, but why the return they got was so meaningless? A heavily protected 2nd round pick that may never convey.

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5 hours ago, OaklandIsBack said:

When was the Lakers' last big free agent signing?

 

Mozgov.

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16 hours ago, DustDevil61 said:

So the Jazz get the man they were looking for last summer in Jae Crowder. While I am cautious about his production this season, I am also optimistic that being in a different system will provide him an opportunity to return to form.

 

I'm also curious as to what number he wears. He's worn 99 in Boston and Cleveland, but I can't think of any Jazz player who's worn a number higher than 55. Something's gotta give there.

 

I also hope that Joe Johnson finds himself on a contender to make one last push or two at a championship as well. As a Jazz fan, Iso Joe's buzzer beater against the Clippers in Game 1 of the first round last year will be one of my favorite moments in Jazz history.

 

It sucks, because the Jazz have really turned it on the past couple weeks. I know losing Hood and Johnson won't be huge blows, but it still sucks to see a team trade away solid pieces, especially when a playoff spot is within striking distance. Granted, they'll get blown away by the Warriors or Rockets, but still. Playoffs is better than no playoffs. It seems that they're in an endless cycle of mediocrity. Hopefully they accomplish something while Mitchell is there to keep him from bolting. 

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17 hours ago, DG_Now said:

It's been reported that James spoke with the team about Wade's departure. I'm sure that's fine.

 

They still have to play the games, but has any team ever won the trade deadline the way the Cavs just did? Outside of flipping TT for DJ, they got all they could have wanted. I'm still in shock.

 

I dunno, that feels pretty heavily sugar-coated if you ask me. The Cavs just turned over half of their roster with about 30 games to go in order to "improve team chemistry". That seems like a really risky bet to hedge, regardless of roster improvement or not. I still think they're behind both Boston and Toronto in terms of who I see coming out of the east.

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27 minutes ago, tigerslionspistonshabs said:

 

It sucks, because the Jazz have really turned it on the past couple weeks. I know losing Hood and Johnson won't be huge blows, but it still sucks to see a team trade away solid pieces, especially when a playoff spot is within striking distance. Granted, they'll get blown away by the Warriors or Rockets, but still. Playoffs is better than no playoffs. It seems that they're in an endless cycle of mediocrity. Hopefully they accomplish something while Mitchell is there to keep him from bolting. 

 

I think things will turn out okay. After thinking about it since yesterday, I think Crowder is actually a pretty decent pickup who I believe will do much better in our system than in Cleveland. Snyder will utilize him better and I think in that case he has the potential to do what he did in Boston again, which would be great.

 

Plus, the team is clicking well right now and shows signs that they can be great after all. Sure we’ll miss Hood and Johnson, but when Burks and O’Neale are on, they produce fairly well and could make up for that in Hood’s absence. Even if they don’t make the playoffs this year, I’m optimistic that they can next year and keep improving. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, FinsUp1214 said:

 

I think things will turn out okay. After thinking about it since yesterday, I think Crowder is actually a pretty decent pickup who I believe will do much better in our system than in Cleveland. Snyder will utilize him better and I think in that case he has the potential to do what he did in Boston again, which would be great.

 

Plus, the team is clicking well right now and shows signs that they can be great after all. Sure we’ll miss Hood and Johnson, but when Burks and O’Neale are on, they produce fairly well and could make up for that in Hood’s absence. Even if they don’t make the playoffs this year, I’m optimistic that they can next year and keep improving. 

 

 

 

True. I think that 8th spot is theirs for the taking though. New Orleans is going to free fall without Cousins. The Clippers maybe, but I think Utah has the better team. No one else behind them has the talent to get there. Who knows- they did beat the Warriors by 30. 

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1 hour ago, FinsUp1214 said:

 

I think things will turn out okay. After thinking about it since yesterday, I think Crowder is actually a pretty decent pickup who I believe will do much better in our system than in Cleveland. Snyder will utilize him better and I think in that case he has the potential to do what he did in Boston again, which would be great.

 

Plus, the team is clicking well right now and shows signs that they can be great after all. Sure we’ll miss Hood and Johnson, but when Burks and O’Neale are on, they produce fairly well and could make up for that in Hood’s absence. Even if they don’t make the playoffs this year, I’m optimistic that they can next year and keep improving. 

 

 

 

Double post- my bad.

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