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Jacksonville Jaguars rumored for new uniforms in 2018

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6 minutes ago, llamafeed said:

They certainly don't blow me away, but it was much safer than the Titans debacle. I like the teal ones the most, the white ones are probably my least favorite, although I can see some cool accessorizing by the players playing off the B&W only look. It'll never happen but I'd almost be interested in seeing the Snow Leopard logo put on there for the B&W only looks. It'll be nice to see them all in person tomorrow and their explanations. I'm curious what the fan versions will look like since all those players wear the uniforms with super short sleeves and the fan versions typically have longer sleeves.

Tbh, and I know I’m gonna get chewed out for this, but I’d rather be the titans. At least their team incorporated their team colors into their uniforms...as bad as it is at least when you see that uniform you say ‘oh yea that’s the titans.’ When you see the jags it looks like the no name team that the nfl superstar is playing against in whatever TV commercial he stars in. 

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1 minute ago, tlmac55 said:

Tbh, and I know I’m gonna get chewed out for this, but I’d rather be the titans. At least their team incorporated their team colors into their uniforms...as bad as it is at least when you see that uniform you say ‘oh yea that’s the titans.’ When you see the jags it looks like the no name team that the nfl superstar is playing against in whatever TV commercial he stars in. 

Idk, I'd rather be like this than the Titans or Bucs :puke:

To each his own I guess

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3 hours ago, daveindc said:

 

The teal and black numbers makes a huge difference. It's the only way this simple design works. Someone said they get a "Raiders vibe" or something like that, but what makes theirs work is the silver numbers. The 49ers' black jersey is another example.

 

If by “works,” you mean, “can’t be  read from across the field by a referee, let alone anyone in the press box,” then I agree. :P

 

However, in practice this simply doesn’t work well enough for its intended purpose.

 

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The only function of a number is to identify the players. If your design fails that test, then it’s already not successful. If your design otherwise lacks identity or personality, then you need to find a way to add it in that doesn’t compromise the base function of the jersey. You can get away with a lot in basketball, but in football, there are twice as many players (all wearing shoulder pads and helmets) on a playing surface three times the size, and the the people who need to identify them are ten times farther away. You simply can’t design counter to those constraints.

 

With that said, of the words used to describe these, I think the one where they left the most on the table is “distinctive” (at first glance, of course). Though you can argue that the black/white look is unique in the NFL, it doesn’t immediately strike me as a unique look for some reason. The colored numbers would have been more distinctive, but it’s easy to see that they don’t work well on the dark jerseys and why that’s so. Design is the process of finding a way to make the uniform distinctive *and* functional.

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43 minutes ago, llamafeed said:

Plain glossy is the most boring and least creative of all helmet finishes. This plain uniform could at least use some form of 20th century style

If you need “20th century style,” look no further than the glossy finish.;)

 

Look, glossy finishes aren’t “boring” just because they’ve been used for so long. They are THE football helmet, and they look the part damn well. I feel as though this age of pushing out these fire emoji-evoking matte and chrome domes for Instagram likes and Twitter clout has distracted from the fact that a glossy finish with a little bit of metallic fleck in it is truly a timeless finish that just looks just stunning with the sun reflecting off of it. The Jaguars all-black kids exemplify this, exuding class with the gold and black logo that marries perfectly to the shiny surface. It isn’t plain at all, which it may seem to you simply because we’ve seen it for so long.

 

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Matte black lids (which I assume you’re referring to when you mention “so many better options”)? They just look cheesey and undignified to me, like a toy version of real football equipment (which I suppose makes sense because all of the kids are rocking them in college ball). Not to mention that matte black just flat out looks grey to me in the sunlight. Personally, it doesn’t look dynamic to me at all and I don’t think it’ll last. Keep it. Tommy’s got the right call here.

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Moving this to a separate post since it’s a separate thought...

 

My gut reaction is this: I think the fans are gonna be a little disappointed. Personally, I don’t feel the product matches what has been advertised for the past few months (or, at the very least, I don’t feel it would match my interpretation of that if I put myself in a fan’s shoes). I don’t think fans are going to feel they got what they were told they were getting.

 

I actually do like these, though. There’s a solid framework to build on in the future, say, if they decide to tinker a little rather than blow it up again in five years. From what I can see, the numbers are a good example of a style that balances tradition and sophistication, but I am worried that there are only a few digits visible there; I feel like the possibility of a head-scratching surprise or two still exists. On the flip side, the identity system designer in me dislikes that they’re adding a new typeface to an identity that had just settled on one. This has the potential to be a stronger typeface to build on, in my opinion, but ultimately, I don’t see them changing the wordmark and re-typing the stadium, so it’s likely to be an outlier typeface for the foreseeable future, which has been par for the course in recent NFL redesigns, for better or worse.

 

Overall, there’s nothing objectively bad about these and I think that’s good. They could be a bit more than what they are, in my opinion (and the jury is definitely still out on the pant design), but you could do much worse as a football team.

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2 hours ago, llamafeed said:

Plain glossy is the most boring and least creative of all helmet finishes. This plain uniform could at least use some form of 20th century style

 

1 hour ago, Gupti said:

If you need “20th century style,” look no further than the glossy finish.;)

 

Look, glossy finishes aren’t “boring” just because they’ve been used for so long. They are THE football helmet, and they look the part damn well. I feel as though this age of pushing out these fire emoji-evoking matte and chrome domes for Instagram likes and Twitter clout has distracted from the fact that a glossy finish with a little bit of metallic fleck in it is truly a timeless finish that just looks just stunning with the sun reflecting off of it. The Jaguars all-black kids exemplify this, exuding class with the gold and black logo that marries perfectly to the shiny surface. It isn’t plain at all, which it may seem to you simply because we’ve seen it for so long.

 

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Matte black lids (which I assume you’re referring to when you mention “so many better options”)? They just look cheesey and undignified to me, like a toy version of real football equipment (which I suppose makes sense because all of the kids are rocking them in college ball). Not to mention that matte black just flat out looks grey to me in the sunlight. Personally, it doesn’t look dynamic to me at all and I don’t think it’ll last. Keep it. Tommy’s got the right call here.

 

Quoting rather than simply liking. This is exactly right. Also, had t never existed, that Fred taylor unit could have been unveiled tonight and would have been universally praised, and nobody would have said “looks like it was designed in the 90s”. That’s a classic. 

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5 hours ago, daveindc said:

 

The teal and black numbers makes a huge difference. It's the only way this simple design works. Someone said they get a "Raiders vibe" or something like that, but what makes theirs work is the silver numbers. The 49ers' black jersey is another example.

 

Seriously. If they would have approved those teal numbers, then you know it's the Jags. In that airport photo, the horizontal bar is right in from of the Jags jersey logo on the window decal and you wouldn't even know what team to associate that jersey with. 

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Very plain, but I do like the font a lot. Just wish outlines were on the numbers, stripes were on the pants and something was on the sleeve (gold and black stripes on the teal jersey with no jaguar would have been phenomenal). So close to a really great uniform.

 

 

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Nike finally nailed a number font! Part of me loves the minimalist motif, while part of me thinks Uncle Tom misses the Giants a bit too much, feels a little fauxbacky... thank god they left the sleeve caps blank, lest Nike not get the ever-apparent advertising they so desperately need. The lack of gold is a bummer, but who knows, maybe the absence of gold preserves a lane for some kick-ass circa-98 throwbacks down the line.

 

Luckily, the NFL isn't a stickler on pants changes, so this uni is a well-designed pants stripe away from being sustainable long-term, in my book.

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The helmets are obviously an upgrade.  Can anyone tell what the finish is?  I still prefer the old helmet logo, as I thought it was unique and fit a helmet much better.

 

I think the collars are an improvement.  I would have liked to see something a little more prominent on the pants as opposed to just the back-of-the-knee panel.  I also would have liked to see less black on white, and less white on black.  I don't propose to have a solution, I just thought they could have done a little bit more.

 

Overall, these are a significant upgrade.  I suspect these will become more and more likable as the years go on, as they are worn on the field.

 

It seems like a lot of these new Nike uniforms are either 0-100.  They either do very minimal, almost TOO minimal designs... or its just a hurricane, meeting a tornado, meeting a tsunami. 

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7 hours ago, Jaguars Football said:

 

Youre also probably all about Joe Paterno so your opinion doesn’t really matter. 

Kind of uncalled for but okay. 

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Numbers look great.  Uniforms are an intense over-correction but as I said before, the NFL benefits from this overall.  

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Overall, I still think these are an upgrade. I thought the 2013-2017 uniforms were good but there were too many gimmicky elements. These may be oversimplified but they are CLEAN which is hard to come by in the Nike era. Ditching the two toned helmet for a simple glossy black helmet alone made it an instant upgrade.

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I mean, first and foremost it's an upgrade.  Granted, where they were coming from, almost anything would have been considered an "upgrade" based on their fixing of the helmet, but it's an upgrade.  And I don't find them horrible, either, but mainly because to be horrible, much like their old uniform, you need to have some sort of defining feature, which these don't feel like they have.  It's hard to see the details so far, but what I can see, they have almost nothing interesting or unique, or anything.  They have the look of the uniforms you'd see Player X wear in an Icy Hot commercial to avoid copyright infringement.  Maybe a closer inspection shows more, but I wish there was a little more gold in them, and wasn't so minimalist.  It's almost like to fix the sins of the past, they just decided to not do anything to avoid that helmet debacle again, but there's a fine line between clean/classic and boring, and I feel like this falls more into the latter than the former so far.

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Reminds me a bit of the Seahawks old number font (with some minor differences).  BAN-r1ECUAIwJRk.jpg

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7 hours ago, BrandMooreArt said:

man, count it as unpopular opinion? these unis are damn good! Raider-esque and anti-Pro Combat that many Nike/NFL unis have been. the number font is great, works on all 3 colors and each jersey/pants combo works without being mismatched due to stripes or some other kind of out of place element. ignoring the logo, i give them an A

 

Count me in too, I like them. Simple, not over designed. It's essentially what we've seen in the leaks so I don't get the shock everyone has. Do I wish they had a stripe down the pants? Yes, but hey, what can you do, maybe one day they'll add them. 

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1 minute ago, jmac11281 said:

When is the official unveiling of the uniforms?

11:00 today. 

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Second best behind The Lions. Could have had some gold but I love them. Simple but beautiful.

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It’s clean modern and can stand the test of time for years to come without looking outdated.

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